This Miracle SILENCED the Skeptics! [Medically Verified]
In this incredible episode, Sid Roth explores one of the most astounding healing miracles ever documented. Delores Winder shares her powerful testimony of divine healing after years of suffering, leaving doctors baffled and skeptics speechless. This miracle, verified by medical experts, defies all odds and showcases the undeniable power of faith and God’s intervention. If you’ve been searching for proof of modern-day miracles, or wondering how God heals even the most hopeless cases, this episode will inspire and uplift you. Whether you’re a believer, skeptic, or someone in need of a miracle yourself, Delores Winder’s story is a must-watch. Discover the truth behind miraculous healing, and witness the life-changing power of faith. Don’t miss out on this life-transforming testimony of God’s healing power! ▶▶Join our Naturally Supernatural membership to get exclusive perks: http://bit.ly/3enUXHz ▶▶SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/SidRothYouTube This episode originally aired in 2010. Stay tuned for more It’s Supernatural! Classics from our It’s Supernatural! archive! Copyright Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural! 2024 #SidRoth #ItsSupernaturalClassics
[THUNDERING SOUND] [MUSIC♪]
SID: I’VE INVESTIGATED
MIRACLES FOR OVER 35 YEARS,
AND WITHOUT A DOUBT, MY
GUEST TODAY HAS RECEIVED
ONE OF THE GREATEST,
VERIFIED,
UNDENIABLE, HEALING
MIRACLES I HAVE EVER
RESEARCHED.
SKEPTICS, GET READY TO BE
BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER.
ANNOUNCER: CAN ANCIENT
SECRETS OF THE
SUPERNATURAL BE
REDISCOVERED?
DO ANGELS EXIST?
IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH?
ARE HEALING MIRACLES REAL?
CAN YOU GET SUPERNATURAL
HELP FROM ANOTHER
DIMENSION?
HAS THE FUTURE BEEN
WRITTEN IN ADVANCE?
SID ROTH HAS SPENT 30
YEARS RESEARCHING THE
STRANGE WORLD OF THE
SUPERNATURAL.
JOIN SID ON THIS EDITION
OF “IT’S SUPERNATURAL!”
SID: HELLO, SID ROTH HERE.
WELCOME TO MY WORLD, WHERE
IT’S NATURALLY
SUPERNATURAL.
MY GUEST, DELORES WINDER,
HAD WHAT I BELIEVE IS ONE
OF THE GREATEST VERIFIABLE
MIRACLES THAT I’VE EVER
OBSERVED.
YOU MAY WONDER WHAT’S OVER
HERE.
THIS IS A NECK BRACE THAT
SHE LIVED IN.
THIS IS A BODY BRACE THAT
SHE LIVED.
DELORES, HOW LONG DID YOU
LIVE IN THIS?
DELORES: WELL, I LIVED IN
PLASTER OF PARIS ONES FOR
7 YEARS, – SID: HIM!
DELORES: AND THEY WOULD
CUT THE SIDES OPEN,
AND PUT STRAPS ON.
AND THEN FINALLY THEY
STARTED MAKING PLASTIC,
AND I LIVED IN PLASTIC
ONES FOR ANOTHER 7-1/2
YEARS.
SID: UH WH-WHAT IS THIS
BUMP HERE,
ON THE BACK?
DELORES: THAT’S WHERE THE
BONE CAME THROUGH THE
SKIN, AND WAS STUCK OUT,
AND HAD TO WEAR A PATCH ON
THAT TO KEEP THAT FROM
HAPPENING.
[CLEARS THROAT] SID: OKAY.
YOU – SOME OF YOU PERHAPS
HAVE NEVER HEARD OF
KATHRYN KUHLMAN.
[VIDEO BEGINS] VIDEO:
KATHRYN KUHLMAN: I BELIEVE
THAT NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE
WITH GOD!
SID: I WAS PRIVILEGED AS A
BRAND-NEW JEWISH BELIEVER
IN THE MESSIAH – VIDEO:
KATHRYN KUHLMAN: AND IF
YOU HAVEN’T HEARD ABOUT
HIM …
SID: TO SEE HER IN HER –
IN THE AUDITORIUMS.
[VIDEO ENDS] SID: AND SHE
HAD SUCH A RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT
SHE – SHE – SHE LIVED FOR
THAT RELATIONSHIP.
AND THE GREATEST MIRACLES
I EVER SAW IN MY LIFE
HAPPENED THERE, BUT THE
GREATEST MIRACLE THAT I
KNOW OF THAT HAPPENED
UNDER HER MINISTRY IS MY
GUEST DELORES WINDER.
AND I WANT TO TAKE YOU
BACK IN TIME,
AND I WANT YOU TO SEE THIS
MIRACLE TAKING PLACE.
RIGHT NOW, TAKE A LOOK.
[VIDEO BEGINS] VIDEO:
DELORES: …
IN A BODY CAST FOR 14
YEARS;
4 FUSIONS, 1 THROUGH THE
FRONT,
THE OTHER 3 THROUGH THE
BACK;
2 CORDOTOMIES TO KILL THE
PAIN.
SO THIS SIDE OF MY BODY
WAS NUMB FROM HERE DOWN;
THIS SIDE FROM HERE DOWN.
TWO WEEKS BEFORE I WAS
HEALED,
MY HUSBAND AND I MADE MY
FUNERAL ARRANGEMENTS.
[VIDEO ENDS] SID: UH, WHAT
YOU’RE ABOUT READY TO HAVE
UNWIND IS GOING TO BUILD
YOUR BELIEF IN GOD,
YOUR BELIEF IN THE
MIRACULOUS.
UH DELORES, FOR THOSE THAT
DON’T UNDERSTAND,
UH YOU HAD A UH DISEASE
THAT YOUR BONES WERE
BECOMING BRITTLE –
DELORES: YES.
SID: WAY BEFORE THEIR
TIME.
DELORES: YES.
SID: AND UH, WHEN SOMEONE
REACHES A POINT THAT
THEY’RE ABOUT READY TO DIE
– THEY’RE TERMINAL – AND
THEIR PAIN IS UNBEARABLE,
UH THEY HAD A SURGERY BACK
THEN WHICH THEY DON’T EVEN
DO TODAY,
– DELORES: NO.
SID: IT’S SUCH A HORRIFIC
SURGERY.
UH, WHAT WAS IT, AND WHAT
DID THEY DO?
DELORES: IT WAS
PERCUTANEOUS CORDOTOMY,
WHERE THEY GO INTO THE
BASE OF THE BRAIN,
[MUSIC BEGINS♪] DELORES:
THROUGH BEHIND THE EAR,
AND THEY BURN OUT THE
NERVE CENTERS,
SO YOU CAN NEVER FEEL
AGAIN IN THE PART OF THE
BODY THAT THEY BURN THE
NERVE CENTERS OUT.
[MUSIC ENDS] SID: NOW YOU
HAD IT ON BOTH SIDES –
DELORES: YES.
[CLEARS THROAT] SID: WHICH
MEANT THAT UM YOU HAD NO
FEELING FROM WHERE, YOUR
WAIST DOWN?
DELORES: WELL, ON MY RIGHT
SIDE I HAD NO FEELING FROM
MY NECK DOWN; THE LEFT
SIDE,
FROM MY WAIST DOWN.
SID: AND THERE – A-AND
THERE’S NO REVERSAL –
DELORES: NO; UM HM.
SID: FOR THIS SURGERY.
UH NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF
THE WORLD HAS IT EVER BEEN
REVERSED, UNTIL THAT NIGHT
WHEN SHE WENT TO THE
KATHRYN KUHLMAN MEETING.
NOW DELORES LOVED GOD, BUT
DID NOT BELIEVE IN
MIRACLES FOR TODAY; SHE
FELT THEY CEASED.
[MUSIC BEGINS] SID: AND SO
WHEN THE MOTHER OF THE
HOUSEKEEPER TURNED ON THIS
– VIDEO: KATHRYN KUHLMAN:
[ON TV] I BELIEVE IN
MIRACLES.
SID: KATHRYN KUHLMAN SHOW.
WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HER?
VIDEO: DELORES: TURN IT
OFF.
SID: WHY?
DELORES: WHY?
BECAUSE I CAME FROM
PENNSYLVANIA.
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: I
WAS ALWAYS TOLD KATHRYN
KUHLMAN WAS A KOOK; SAID
SHE HEALED PEOPLE AND THAT
WASN’T TRUE, AND I
BELIEVED IT.
SID: AND WHAT DID THE
HOUSEKEEPER’S UH MOTHER
SAY TO YOU?
DELORES: SHE SAID TO ME,
“WHAT IF YOU’RE KEEPING A
DOOR CLOSED TO GOD?”
AND I HAD TO RESPOND,
BECAUSE AT THAT POINT,
I WAS WAITING FOR AN
ANSWER FROM GOD,
FOR MY YOUNGEST SON.
SID: YOU SEE, SHE HAD A –
A YOUNG SON.
HOW OLD WAS HE – CHRIS?
DELORES: HE WAS 14.
SID: H-HE WAS 14; AND SHE
WAS WONDERING WHAT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN TO HIM
WHEN SHE DIED UH,
BECAUSE UH, WELL TELL ME
ABOUT THE ORTHOPEDIC
DOCTOR THAT WAS A FRIEND
OF YOURS.
WHEN HE TOLD YOU YOU WERE
GOING TO DIE,
WHAT DID HE SAY?
DELORES: WELL, WHEN HE
CAME INTO THE ROOM,
THEY WANTED TO TAKE ME
INTO THE HOSPITAL ONE MORE
TIME; SEE IF THERE WAS
ANYTHING THEY MISSED OR
ANYTHING THEY COULD STILL
DO,
OR ANYTHING THEY COULD
LEARN TO HELP SOMEBODY
ELSE.
AND UH, WHEN THEY DID ALL
THIS CHECKING,
AND HAD A NEW NEUROSURGEON
IN TO LOOK AT ME,
AND HE SAID, “IT’S TIME TO
GO.”
[MUSIC BEGINS♪] DELORES:
THE TISSUES IN MY BACK
WERE SHREDDING, EVEN WHERE
THAT BONE WAS THROUGH THE
SKIN, AND THEY COULDN’T
EVEN PATCH IT.
AND HE CAME IN AND SAT
DOWN,
AND HE SAID UH, I SAID,
“WHAT’S WRONG?”,
AND HE SAID, “DELORES,
THERE’S NOTHING MORE WE
CAN DO.”
AND HE SAID, “I WOULD GIVE
ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD TO
MAKE YOU WELL, AND THERE’S
NOTHING TO BE DONE.”
SID: AND SHE HEARD –
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: UM HM.
SID: THE VOICE OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT SAY TO HER,
“KATHRYN KUHLMAN”; AND SHE
KNEW SOMEHOW THAT IF SHE
WENT TO THE KATHRYN
KUHLMAN MEETING,
SHE WOULD FIND OUT.
UH, SHE’D – SHE’D HAVE
SOME PEACE OF MIND OF WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN – DELORES:
THAT’S RIGHT.
SID: TO HER SON.
YOU LITERALLY SAID TO –
YOU HAD “CHUTZPAH” – YOU
SAID TO GOD, WHAT DID –
WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HIM?
DELORES: I TOLD HIM “I
WILL NOT DIE TILL YOU SHOW
ME HOW YOU’RE GOING TO
TAKE CARE OF CHRIS”.
AND H-HE GAVE HIM – SID:
MM.
DELORES: TO US; HE’S
ADOPTED.
AND HE GAVE HIM TO US
AFTER I WAS IN MY FIRST
BODY CAST, AND THEN IN A
BRACE FOR SEVERAL YEARS,
AND UH – SID: SO DID CHRIS
EVER SEE YOU NORMAL?
DELORES: NO; NO, HE NEVER
DID.
HE NEVER DID.
SID: OKAY.
SO UH YOU UH, YOU KNOW YOU
HAVE TO GO TO THIS MEETING
OF THIS WOMAN [CHUCKLING]
YOU DON’T CARE FOR.
DELORES: BUT YOU KNOW, I
COULD GO BECAUSE IT WAS A
METHODIST SPIRIT – HOLY
SPIRIT CONFERENCE;
AND I GREW UP METHODIST,
AND I KNEW THEY WEREN’T
GOING TO LET HER DO
ANYTHING OUT OF ORDER.
SID: OKAY.
SO YOU GET IN THE CAR TO
GO TO THIS CONFERENCE.
YOU GET OUT, – DELORES:
[COUGHS] SID: BUT YOU
CAN’T GET OUT OF THE CAR
YOURSELF,
SO WHAT DO YOU DO?
DELORES: WELL, GAIL ALWAYS
PUT ME IN AND TOOK ME OUT.
AND UH, AND SHE COULDN’T
GET ME OUT BECAUSE THE
PAIN – UH THIS SHOULDER
WAS DETERIORATED;
ALSO BOTH WRISTS AND ALL
MY FINGERS.
SID: WHAT WAS GOING ON
WITH YOUR ORGANS?
DELORES: HEART AND LUNGS
WERE VERY BAD,
AND MY KIDNEYS HAD CLOSED
– STARTED TO CLOSE OFF,
AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS
KILLING ME;
YEAH.
AND UH, THIS MAN STEPPED
UP AND SAID,
“LET ME HELP”; REACHED IN
AND PICKED ME UP,
AND TOOK ME IN.
GAIL PARKED THE CAR –
[MUSIC BEGINS♪] DELORES:
AND CAME IN, AND HE TOOK
US TO SEATS.
AND UH, KATHRYN KUHLMAN
CAME OUT ON STAGE,
AND I THOUGHT, “DEAR GOD,
I CAN’T STAND TO LOOK AT
HER.”
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: AND
THE LORD SAID,
“YOU DON’T NEED TO LOOK AT
HER;
JUST LISTEN.”
AND SO I CLOSED MY EYES,
AND I WAS HOLDING MY HEAD
LIKE THIS, – [MUSIC
BEGINS♪] DELORES: AND SHE
SAID, “TONIGHT, I’M GOING
TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE
HOLY SPIRIT.”
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: NOW
SHE’S TALKING TO METHODIST
PASTORS AND LAY LEADERS.
SID: IT WASN’T A HEALING
SERVICE.
DELORES: NO, IT WAS NOT A
HEALING SERVICE.
IN FACT, THEY MADE HER
SEND HER PEOPLE HOME,
BECAUSE THEY COULDN’T HAVE
HEALING.
AND UH, AND SO I THOUGHT,
“I KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT;
IT’S THE SPIRIT OF GOD.”
[MUSIC BEGINS♪] DELORES:
AND SHE SAID,
“IF YOU CALL CALL HIM
‘IT’,
YOU DON’T KNOW HIM.”
AND SUDDENLY, – [MUSIC
ENDS] DELORES: SOMETHING
HAPPENED TO ME.
[MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES:
AND I HAD MY EYES CLOSED,
AND I SAW A LITTLE KODAK
SLIDE PICTURE OF CHRIS AND
A MAN ON OUR FRONT PORCH.
AND THE MAN TURNED AND
LOOKED AT ME,
AND SAID, “TELL CHRIS HE
NEED NEVER WALK IN THE
HOUSE ALONE”; TO “TELL HIM
TO TAKE JESUS’ HAND,
AND WALK IN, AND I’LL WALK
IN WITH HIM.
MY NAME IS HOLY SPIRIT.”
[MUSIC ENDS] SID: AND NOW
YOU FELT YOU HAD YOUR
ANSWER.
DELORES: [CHOKING UP] I
HAD MY ANSWER;
I WAS READY TO GO HOME.
[CLEARS THROAT] SID: SHE
WAS READY TO DIE.
[MUSIC] SID: [CHUCKLING]
BUT GOD WASN’T READY FOR
HER TO DIE!
DELORES: RIGHT.
SID: [CHUCKLING] I KNOW
YOU’RE NOT GOING TO GO
AWAY.
BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THIS
WORD.
[MUSIC♪]
ANNOUNCER:WE’LL BE RIGHT
BACK TO “IT’S SUPERNATURAL!”
[MUSIC♪] ANNOUNCER: WE NOW
RETURN TO “IT’S SUPERNATURAL!”
SID: HELLO, SID ROTH HERE
WITH DELORES WINDER.
AND DELORES SUFFERED FROM
SUCH A PAINFUL DISEASE.
HER BONES BECAME BRITTLE;
WHEN SHE WAS 30,
THE DOCTORS ESTIMATED SHE
HAD THE BONES OF SOMEONE
IN THEIR MID-70S.
HER BODY ORGANS STARTED
CLOSING DOWN.
THE PAIN WAS SO
UNBEARABLE,
THE DOCTORS SAID, “PREPARE
TO DIE”.
BUT BECAUSE THE PAIN WAS
SO BAD,
THEY DID A SURGERY THAT’S
NOT REVERSIBLE.
DELORES: RIGHT.
SID: THEY SEVERED THE
NERVES IN THE BRAIN SO
THAT SHE DIDN’T HAVE ANY
FEELING IN HER BODY;
THEY DID IT ON BOTH SIDES.
UH IT’S SOMETHING THAT
IT’S SUCH A HORRIFIC
SURGERY, THEY DON’T EVEN
DO THIS TODAY.
NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF
THE WORLD EVER UH HAD THIS
SURGERY REVERSED IN ANY
WAY POSSIBLE.
SO SHE GOES TO THIS
KATHRYN KUHLMAN MEETING,
AND SHE HAD ONE QUESTION
IN HER HEART: “WHAT’S
GOING TO HAPPEN TO MY
YOUNG SON WHEN I DIE?”;
AND GOD SHOWED HER, AND
SHE WAS AT PEACE.
SO SHE’S READY TO GO, BUT
YOU NEED HELP TO GET OUT,
– DELORES: YES.
SID: SO WHAT HAPPENED?
DELORES: WELL I – [MUSIC
BEGINS] DELORES: I SAID TO
GAIL, “LET’S GO”, AND UH,
KATHRYN KUHLMAN HAD SAID,
“SOMEBODY HAD AN EAR
OPEN”,
AND PEOPLE STARTED GOING
UP,
AND I THOUGHT, “NOW SHE’S
PUTTING ON A SIDE-SHOW.”
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: AND
I LOOKED LIKE I FIT IN A
SIDE-SHOW, AND I WANTED
OUT.
SO GAIL HANDED ME MY CANE,
AND I STARTED PULLING
MYSELF TO THE EDGE OF THE
SEAT SO SHE COULD – [MUSIC
BEGINS] DELORES: GET ME
UP.
AND AS I DID, MY LEGS WERE
ON FIRE,
AND I THOUGHT, “WHAT ON
EARTH IS HAPPENING?”
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: AND
UH,
THE THOUGHT CAME TO ME
THAT THE BONE THAT WAS
OUT, THE CAST WAS PUTTING
PRESSURE ON IT,
AND MAKING MY LEGS BURN.
AND WASN’T I GLAD I ONLY
WORE THAT ONLY 1 HOUR A
DAY, BECAUSE BILL WOULD
GET ME GET UP AND LET ME
SIT UP WITH HIM FOR AN
HOUR.
THE – SID: THE REST OF THE
TIME YOU WERE IN THE BED.
DELORES: YES, THE REST OF
THE TIME I WAS IN BED.
AND UH, AND I THOUGHT THAT
WAS WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND FINALLY A MAN WAS DOWN
BY MY SEAT,
AND HE SAID, “SOMETHING’S
HAPPENING TO YOU”,
AND I SAID, “MY LEGS ARE
BURNING”.
AND HE SAID, “WOULD YOU
WALK WITH ME?”,
AND I SAID, “GET ME OUT OF
HERE”.
SO HE GOT ME UP, AND HE
SAID,
“HOW CAN I HELP YOU?”
[MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES:
AND I SAID,
“IF YOU PUT ONE ARM AROUND
ME,
AND THEN TAKE THIS ARM,
AND WITH MY CAST,
I CAN SHUFFLE”, SO WE
STARTED OUT.
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: OF
COURSE HE FELT THE CAST,
AND FINALLY HE SAID –
[MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES: TO
ME, “HAVE YOU EVER HAD ANY
SURGERIES?”,
AND I SAID, “I HAD 4
SPINAL FUSIONS,
AND 2 PERCUTANEOUS
CORDOTOMIES”.
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: AND
NOBODY KNEW WHAT
PERCUTANEOUS CORDOTOMIES
WERE,
SO IF I WOULD SAY THAT TO
THEM,
THEY WOULDN’T SAY ANYMORE.
SID: Y-YOU COULD GET RID
OF THEM.
[CHUCKLES] DELORES: I
COULD GET RID OF THEM.
[CLEARS THROAT] THEY WOULD
SAY,
“OH”, AND THAT WAS THE END
OF IT.
BUT THIS MAN TURNED ME TO
FACE HIM,
AND HE SAID – [MUSIC
BEGINS] DELORES: “YOU’VE
HAD 4 SPINAL FUSIONS AND 2
PERCUTANEOUS
CORDOTOMIES?”, AND I SAID,
“YES”.
HE SAID, “ISN’T IT STRANGE
THAT YOUR LEGS ARE
BURNING?”, AND I THOUGHT,
– [MUSIC ENDS] DELORES:
“HE KNOWS WHAT I’M TALKING
ABOUT”,
BUT I WOULDN’T ANSWER HIM;
I JUST SAID,
“YES”.
WE WENT OUT TO GET TO THE
LOBBY,
AND HE SAID TO ME, “YOU
CAN TAKE YOUR CAST OFF IF
YOU WANT TO”, AND MY
INSTANT REACTION WAS,
“DEAR GOD, THESE PEOPLE
ARE DANGEROUS”.
SID: [LAUGHS] DELORES:
NEVER SAW ME BEFORE,
AND TELLING ME I CAN TAKE
MY CAST OFF.
AND – AND I LOOKED AT HIM,
– [MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES:
AND I SAW SOMETHING; I
DIDN’T KNOW WHAT,
BUT I SAW SOMETHING IN
HIM.
AND FINALLY, HE SAID TO
ME,
“DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT
OFF?”
SOMETIMES PEOPLE AREN’T
WILLING TO GET HEALED;
BUT I SAID, “I’VE BEEN IN
ONE OF THESE THINGS OVER
15 YEARS, -” [MUSIC ENDS]
DELORES: “AND I’M DYING”.
AND HE SHOOK HIS HEAD, AND
I KNEW HE KNEW.
AND I SAID, – [MUSIC
BEGINS] DELORES: “YES I
WOULD WANT TO TAKE IT
OFF”.
HE HAD ME IN THE WOMEN’S
RESTROOM WITH GAIL IN
THERE HELPING ME OUT OF
THE CAST.
HAD THE NECK BRACE OFF, –
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: AND
HE WENT OUT WHILE SHE GOT
THIS OFF ME.
AND UH WHEN HE CAME BACK
IN,
SHE SAID TO ME, “IS
SOMETHING HAPPENING?”,
AND I SAID, “NO”.
SHE SAID, “THIS ISN’T LIKE
YOU”.
I STARTED TO FASTEN MY
CAST BACK UP;
BUT WHEN THAT MAN STEPPED
IN THE DOOR,
I KNEW HE KNEW SOMETHING.
AND I SAID, “GET THIS OFF
ME,
AND GET ME TO HIM”.
AND HE CARRIED ME OUT, –
[MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES:
AND HE AND AN USHER
CARRIED ME UP ON THE
PLATFORM, AND KATHRYN WAS
WAITING FOR HIM.
SID: LET – LET ME
INTERJECT SOMETHING.
[MUSIC ENDS] SID: WHAT YOU
DON’T KNOW IS THIS MAN
THAT WALKED UP TO DELORES
WASN’T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE
AT THIS MEETING.
DELORES: THAT’S RIGHT.
SID: HE WAS A MEDICAL
DOCTOR,
AND HE WENT – HE FELT GOD
TOLD HIM TO GO TO THE
MEETING – DELORES: UM HM.
SID: BECAUSE HE HAD A WORD
OF KNOWLEDGE FOR ONE
PERSON.
AND ALTHOUGH THERE WERE
WHAT,
A THOUSAND PEOPLE?
DELORES: THREE THOUSAND.
SID: THREE THOUSAND
PEOPLE,
HE WALKS DIRECTLY UP TO
DELORES;
THIS WAS THE ONE THAT GOD
HAD SELECTED.
THE REASON HE KNEW ABOUT
THE CORDOTOMY IS BECAUSE
HE WAS A MEDICAL DOCTOR!
DELORES: THAT’S RIGHT.
SID: THAT’S WHY IT DIDN’T
AMAZE HIM.
[MUSIC] SID: BUT WAIT TILL
YOU FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED
WHEN SHE TAKES THE CAST
OFF,
AND GOES ON THE PLATFORM
WITH MS. KUHLMAN.
DON’T GO AWAY.
[MUSIC♪]
ANNOUNCER: WE’LL BE RIGHT
BACK TO “IT’S SUPERNATURAL!”
[MUSIC♪] ANNOUNCER: WE NOW
RETURN TO “IT’S SUPERNATURAL!”
SID: HELLO, SID ROTH HERE
WITH DELORES WINDER.
SO IF – IF YOU JUST CAME
ON,
DELORES HAD THIS HORRIBLE,
HORRIBLE DISEASE;
SHE WAS GIVEN A DEATH
SENTENCE.
UH, THEY – THEY SEVERED
HER NERVES SO SHE HAD NO
FEELING; THEY DON’T EVEN
DO THIS TYPE OF SURGERY
TODAY.
AND UH THIS DOCTOR WALKS
UP TO HER;
HAS A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE.
TELLS HER TO TAKE THIS
OFF.
THIS IS A UH BODY BRACE
AND A NECK CAST.
[SETS CAST DOWN] SHE TAKES
IT OFF.
I’M – I’M STILL AMAZED YOU
– DELORES: [LAUGHS] SID:
TOOK IT OFF, DELORES.
A-AND UH TH-THEY CARRY HER
UP TO THE PLATFORM WHERE
MS. KUHLMAN – DELORES:
YEAH.
SID: IS THERE, AND WHAT
HAPPENED NEXT?
DELORES: THEN SHE – [MUSIC
BEGINS] DELORES: SAID TO
ME, “WALK”, AND I SAID, –
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: “I
CAN’T WALK”.
AND I HAD VERY LITTLE
VOICE [CLEARS THROAT]
BECAUSE THE CORDOTOMY –
THE SECOND UH CORDOTOMY
WENT – THEY WENT THROUGH
THE THROAT;
PARALYZED MY VOCAL CHORDS.
SID: MM!
DELORES: AND UH, AND I
DIDN’T THINK SHE HEARD ME
WHEN I SAID, “I CAN’T”
BECAUSE SHE SAID AGAIN,
– [MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES:
“WALK”!
AND I PUSHED MY FOOT OUT
TO SHOW HER I COULDN’T;
CAME UP OFF THE FLOOR.
IT CAME DOWN ON THE FLOOR,
AND I THOUGHT,
“I FEEL THE FLOOR.
NO, YOU CAN’T FEEL THE
FLOOR”.
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: BUT
I HAD TO GET THE OTHER
FOOT OUT BECAUSE THE MAN
HAD NOT MOVED UP;
AND MY BODY WAS SO
CROOKED,
I KNEW IF THEY LET GO OF
ME I WOULD FALL.
SO I PULLED THE OTHER FOOT
UP,
AND IT CAME OFF THE FLOOR,
– [MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES:
AND CAME DOWN, AND I
THOUGHT,
“I FEEL THE FLOOR.
NO YOU DON’T FEEL THE
FLOOR.
YOU CAN’T FEEL THE FLOOR.”
AND SUDDENLY I FELT, AND
MY FINGERTIPS STARTED
GOING UP.
AND THEY SAID I WAS
LOOKING AT MY HAND,
AND THEN GOT UP SO FAR,
AND I STARTED SCREAMING,
“I CAN FEEL, I CAN FEE”.
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: SHE
TOLD ME TO WALK;
SHE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS
GOING ON.
I RAN ON THE PLATFORM;
CAME BACK,
AND SHE SAID TO ME, “BEND
OVER”.
AND MY DOCTORS COULD ONLY
BEND ME SO FAR;
AND I STARTED TO BEND
OVER,
AND REALIZED I WAS FREE.
I COULD BEND, AND I
TOUCHED THE FLOOR.
AND THERE WAS A DOCTOR
FROM DALLAS SITTING ON THE
PLATFORM, AND HE DIDN’T
BELIEVE ANY OF THIS.
AND HE SAID SUDDENLY A
HUSH FELL,
AND HE LOOKED UP, AND HE
SAW MY BODY STRAIGHTEN.
AND HE SAID, “IF THAT
DOESN’T MAKE A BELIEVER
OUT OF YOU, NOTHING WILL”.
SID: IN OTHER WORDS, HE
SAW YOUR BODY CROOKED,
AND COULD SEE IT –
DELORES: YES;
YES.
SID: STRAIGHTEN BEFORE HIS
VERY EYES.
DELORES: YES.
AND HE SAID UH, AND THE
NEXT YEAR HE INTRODUCED US
AT THE – AT THE METHODIST
HOLY SPIRIT CONFERENCE.
BUT UH, I SAW IN SHOCK,
BECAUSE I DIDN’T BELIEVE
ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
SID: THEY TELL ME THAT YOU
RAN,
– DELORES: I RAN.
SID: AND YOU DON’T EVEN
REMEMBER IT!
DELORES: NO.
SID: HOW COULD RUN?
HOW COULD YOU DO THAT TO
GO – DELORES?
DELORES: I DON’T KNOW.
UM HM.
SID: OKAY.
[CHUCKLES] THIS GREAT
MIRACLE OCCURS;
SHE GOES HOME IN A STATE
OF SHOCK.
I HAVE TO ASK YOU, WHAT
DID YOUR SON – THAT WAS SO
IMPORTANT TO YOU – YOUR
ADOPTED SON SAY WHEN HE
SAW YOU?
DELORES: HE RAN OUT TO THE
CAR,
– [MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES:
AND I WAS GETTING OUT OF
THE CAR BY MYSELF FOR THE
FIRST TIME HE EVER SAW
THAT HAPPEN.
AND HE PICKED ME UP, AND
STARTED CARRYING ME ACROSS
THE STREET SCREAMING, –
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: “YOU
WERE HEALED, YOU WERE
HEALED.”
BUT BEFORE WE WENT, WE HAD
AN INCIDENT WHERE HE SAID
TO ME, “MOTHER, YOU’RE
GOING TO BE HEALED”,
AND I SAID, “NO, HONEY,
THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN.
AND I’M NOT C- – NOT
COMING HOME ANY DIFFERENT
THAN I’M GOING; BUT I WILL
HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?”,
AND HE SAID,
“YES MA’AM”.
AND I JOKINGLY SAY THAT
WAS MY LAST METHODIST
PRESBYTERIAN SUNDAY SCHOOL
LESSON,
SID: [CHUCKLES] DELORES:
“MIRACLES ARE NOT FOR
TODAY”.
SID: HOW ABOUT THE DOCTOR?
WHAT WAS HIS REACTION?
DELORES: HE WAS SO AMAZED.
HE WAS WAITING FOR A PHONE
CALL FROM BILL TO SAY THAT
I HAD DIED.
AND WHEN HE WALKED IN THE
ROOM – AND I TOLD HIM
“DON’T TELL HIM I’M HERE”
– WHEN HE WALKED IN THE
ROOM – [MUSIC BEGINS]
DELORES: AND SAW ME,
HE SAID TO ME, “WHAT’S
HAPPENED?”
HE SAID, “YOU LOOK
DIFFERENT.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?”, AND
I SAID,
“I WANT YOU TO CHECK ME”,
AND HE STARTED CHECKING
ME.
AND HE GOT ME UP ON THE
TABLE,
AND I COULD TURN OVER BY
MYSELF.
AND HE STARTED RUNNING HIS
HANDS DOWN MY SPINE,
AND HE SAID, “IT’S
STRAIGHT”.
AND THIS SHOULDER WAS SO
BAD THAT HE COULDN’T TOUCH
IT BEFORE.
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: AND
HE WAS PRESSING ON IT AND
SAID, “IS THAT HURTING?”,
AND I SAID,
“NO, IT’S NOT HURTING”.
AND FINALLY HE LOOKED AT
ME – [MUSIC BEGINS]
DELORES: AND HE SAID, “I
SUPPOSE YOU WANT ME TO USE
THE PIN, TOO”, AND I SAID,
“YES”.
AND HE BARELY TOUCHED MY
FOOT,
AND I SAID, “IT’S SHARP”.
HE SAID, “ALRIGHT”; HE
SAID,
“THAT’S ALL.
TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED, BUT
LET ME SIT DOWN”.
AND HE SAT ON HIS STOOL,
AND THE TEARS JUST
DRIPPED.
AND I SAID TO HIM, “VAN,
TELL ME ANOTHER WAY THIS
COULD HAVE HAPPENED”, AND
HE SAID,
“THERE IS NO OTHER WAY”.
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES:
“THIS IS TRULY A MIRACLE
OF GOD, AND YOU HAVE WORK
TO DO FOR HIM”.
SID: I WOULD LIKE YOU TO
SEE HER HUSBAND BILL,
IN HIS OWN WORDS,
DESCRIBING THE WORST STATE
THAT DELORES WAS IN, AND
THE CHANGE.
[MUSIC BEGINS] VIDEO: BILL
WINDER: SHE WAS IN – WE
WERE IN THE KITCHEN, AND
SHE WAS BEATING HER FISTS
UPON THE WALL, [CHOKING
UP] SAYING,
“LORD, WHY DON’T YOU TAKE
ME?”
LAST THEY WEIGHED HER, SHE
WEIGHED 73 POUNDS;
AND I’M SURE AT THE TIME
OF HEALING SHE WEIGHED
LESS THAN THAT.
SHE WAS ONE, THOUGH – THE
FACT SHE GOT THESE
PERCUTANEOUS CORDOTOMIES,
THEY GO INTO THE BASE OF
THE SPINE AND THEY KILL
ALL THE NERVES TO THE
FEELING IN YOUR BODY –
WHEN SHE GOT THAT,
UH SHE WAS ABLE THEN TO
MANEUVER A LITTLE BIT MORE
THAN – THAN USUAL.
I NEVER DID THIS TO THE
SENSE I HAD TO CARRY HER;
I HAD TO ASSIST HER UH IN
AND OUT OF BED AND SO ON;
WE HAD A HOSPITAL BED.
AND UH, THEY THOUGHT WHEN
SHE GOT THE PERCUTANEOUS
CORDOTOMY THAT SHE WAS
NATURALLY GOING INTO A
WHEELCHAIR AND THAT WAS
IT;
AND THE TYPE OF PERSON SHE
IS,
SHE WOULDN’T ACCEPT THAT.
SO SHE WOULD UH – IN FACT
SHE – AROUND THE HOUSE
SHE’D PUSH A CHAIR AROUND.
SHE WALKED LIKE A SPASTIC
PERSON AT FIRST,
BECAUSE SHE COULDN’T HAVE
ANY FEELING.
SHE DIDN’T KNOW WHERE HER
LEGS WERE;
IN ORDER TO MOVE ONE LEG,
SHE HAD TO LOOK DOWN AND
SEE WHICH ONE WAS – WAS
FORWARD IN ORDER TO MOVE
[CHOKING UP] THE OTHER
ONE.
SO UH, BUT I – I – UH, TO
SAY WHICH IS THE WORST
TIME, I – I – I DON’T
KNOW;
IT WAS ALL – ALL PRETTY
TRAUMATIC.
SHE UH – I GUESS THE FIRST
THING I REALLY NOTICED WAS
HER BACK WAS STRAIGHT; IT
HAD NEVER BEEN BECAUSE HER
ONE LEG WAS AN INCH
AND-A-HALF SHORTER THAN
THE OTHER BECAUSE THE HIP
HAD CRUSHED UP AND – SHE’S
THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS
WORLD THAT WE KNOW THAT
WAS HEALED OF PERCUTANEOUS
CORDOTOMIES.
IT’S AN IRREVERSIBLE
PROCESS.
[MUSIC ENDS] SID: WELL
BILL HAD A BRAND-NEW WIFE!
IN FACT SHE WAS SO NEW UH
THAT UH SHE WOULD START
TEACHING BIBLE STUDIES.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS SHE
DISLIKED ABOUT KATHRYN
KUHLMAN WAS WHEN KATHRYN
KUHLMAN WOULD TOUCH
PEOPLE, THE SPIRIT OF THE
LIVING GOD WOULD BE SO
TANGIBLE, IT WOULD
LITERALLY PUSH THAT PERSON
OVER AND THEY’D FALL TO
THE GROUND.
UH DELORES, WHAT HAPPENED
AT YOUR BIBLE STUDY?
DELORES: [CHUCKLES] WE GOT
A PHONE CALL;
SOMEONE WAS IN THE
HOSPITAL IN CRITICAL
CONDITION; WOULD WE PRAY.
[MUSIC BEGINS] DELORES: WE
STARTED PRAYING,
AND I KNEW I DIDN’T WANT
TO TOUCH ANYONE,
BECAUSE MY HANDS WERE HOT.
SID: WHY WERE YOUR HANDS
HOT?
DELORES: I DIDN’T KNOW
YET,
BUT I UNDERSTOOD I DIDN’T
WANT TO TOUCH ANYONE WHEN
MY HANDS WERE HOT.
[MUSIC ENDS] DELORES: AND
THIS WOMAN WOULD – HAD
TROUBLE GETTING UP, AND I
WENT TO HELP HER UP.
AND WHEN I DID, – [MUSIC
BEGINS] DELORES: I BRUSHED
AGAINST ANOTHER WOMAN WHO
FELL OVER HER.
AND THEN I STEPPED BACK
AND BRUSHED AGAINST
SOMEBODY ELSE, AND THEY
FELL.
AND THEN – [MUSIC ENDS]
DELORES: GOING OUT THE
DOOR, I HAD A WOMAN IN A
WHEELCHAIR;
AND I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT HAD
HAPPENED,
BUT AS SHE – AS I WAS
GOING OUT THE DOOR I
BRUSHED AGAINST HER, AND
SHE – [MUSIC BEGINS]
DELORES: FELL OUT OF THE
CHAIR.
AND UH, I WAS SHOOK.
[MUSIC ENDS] SID: NOW ALL
THESE PEOPLE [CHUCKLING]
AT THIS BIBLE STUDY THAT
ARE FALLING DOWN UNDER THE
POWER OF GOD, DELORES IS
VERY RELUCTANT OF ALL
THIS.
SHE WANTED – DID YOU PUT
YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS
– DELORES: I DID; I DID.
SID: SO THEY WOULDN’T BE –
I BELIEVE YOU DID THAT.
DELORES: I DID.
SID: AND – AND – AND – AND
SO – SO YOU – SHE – UH SHE
DOESN’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING
ON.
SHE THEN FINDS OUT ALL
THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING
PHYSICALLY HEALED.
AND OVER THE YEAR, YOU SEE
I BELIEVE DELORES WINDER
RECEIVED THE SAME
ANOINTING THAT KATHRYN
KUHLMAN RECEIVED.
I BELIEVE THAT THE
MIRACLES OF MS. KUHLMAN
ARE THE SAME MIRACLES THAT
OCCUR WITH DELORES WINDER.
DELORES: AMEN.
SID: AND SHE HAS PUT
TOGETHER KEYS OF KNOWING
THE HOLY SPIRIT LIKE MS.
KUHLMAN DID.
KEYS OF UNDERSTANDING
HEALING THAT ARE VITAL –
THAT’S ALMOST BEEN LOST TO
THIS GENERATION.
NOT ALMOST – IT HAS BEEN
LOST TO THIS GENERATION.
SO THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR
YOU IS,
– [MUSIC] SID: DO YOU KNOW
THE HOLY SPIRIT?
DELORES: YES.
SID: DO YOU – UH MS.
KUHLMAN WOULD SAY,
“I DON’T WANT TO EVEN GO
ON A PLATFORM,
WITHOUT HIS PRESENCE BEING
ON ME”.
THE WAY YOU KNOW THE HOLY
SPIRIT IS TO KNOW JESUS,
– DELORES: AMEN.
SID: AND THEN ASK THE HOLY
SPIRIT TO FILL YOU WITH
HIS PRESENCE.
DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
I FEEL HIM, DON’T YOU?
DELORES: THANK YOU; THANK
YOU.
RIGHT NOW; YES.
[MUSIC♪]