A Sure Foundation – Andrew Classics: Season 4 Episode 10

Mark 4 describes our hearts as different types of soil. If yours feels hardened, let the Word and Holy Spirit soften it. See how Andrew’s changed heart posture deepened his relationship with God and transformed his life.

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well welcome back to Andrew’s Classics

we are so excited you’re joining us as

we are doing this series assure

foundation and it’s already been

absolutely amazing just talking about

the word of God and how that truly is

our foundation for success in every area

of Our Lives you know and through

Andrew’s Classics you know Andrew’s been

talking about just his experiences with

the Lord and his growth in the word and

honestly you know our desire is that you

see what the

longevity of the word of God can produce

in our life and I believe as many of you

uh have been listening to Andrew for

years maybe your partners maybe you’ve

gone through Bible school or maybe you

are just now becoming a part of this

ministry we believe that this is going

to be a testimony of the process and the

the faithfulness that you and I can have

towards the word just like God has

faithfulness towards you and I every day

so this is powerful it’s really need to

see just some insights into how Andrew

has walked out his journey as well and

how we can apply that to our lives and

how God you know the the word says that

God is no respector of persons which

means that if it works in one person’s

life it’ll work in all of our lives and

you can see that in the life of Andrew

we can see that in the life of Paul we

can see that in the life of Jesus where

if we will make the word of God our

priority we will walk in the success

that the the that the word actually

guarantees through his promises it’s

just a matter of us taking the time

sewing the seed into our hearts

meditating on that seed watching it to

come to fruition and eventually bear

fruit in our lives and so I hope this

has really been um just inspiring to

each and every single one of you I know

it’s been inspiring to me just to talk

with Andrew and really been challenging

as well to know that God has so much in

store for us and the only limitations on

our lives are the ones that we place on

ourselves yeah and and and that’s not

just talking about gifts callings

talents

that’s if you’re not putting the

richness of the word in if you’re not

putting the seed in there’s no Harvest

yep you know so we can’t expect to have

these fruitful Harvest filled Abundant

Life if there’s no seed simple as that

yeah grew up on the farm I grew up it’s

a powerful simple and Powerful

Revelation yeah so I grew up on the farm

and was constantly driving tractor

tighten seeds and you know doing all

that besides the mammoth Garden my

parents would do oh my gosh and they

still have and they still have you know

like an acre of like go weed the acre

kind of thing and you know just the

dynamic of watching what seed does and

what it produces and it produces after

its own kind and we had sections of of

even what we did whether it was weed or

alala or you know the different things

that we planted or the things in the

garden all the different varieties and

then we got we got fancy of all the

different types of corn and all the

different types of beans and all the

different types of squash right it

produces after its own kind so when we

look at the life of Jesus when we look

at the the the principles and the

characters of the word of God and that

is the life that you and I are designed

to live that’s the fruit that we’re

designed to be able to produce and so

we’re excited we have so much that we

want to share with you but we want you

to watch this clip of Andrew where we go

into even more uh as he’s talking about

this word and as we go into this clip

please be prepared please have a pen

please have have a piece of paper I

believe that the Lord’s going to be

speaking to us during this time and this

is so important that we come

anticipating that God’s going to speak

to our hearts yeah we need to write

these different things down because as

much as we think I will never forget

this Revelation sometimes we can get it

because again things are happening

around us all the time kids are coming

running in they’re looking they want to

be fed believe it or not they have

homework to do and so we get distracted

sometimes but God has great things in

store for you don’t allow any

circumstance to steal from you what the

word of God has promised for you so uh

just join us right now we’re going to

jump into this clip and then we’ll come

back and we’ll we’ll talk we’ll visit

with Andrew right

afterwards there are four different

types of ground spoken of in this

parable but the sentence or the the

subject of the sentence the subject of

the parable is the word of God being

like a seed we’ve already talked a lot

about that in the first type of soil

which is uh typical of men’s heart it’s

descriptive of man’s heart it says in

verse 15 it says these are they by the

wayside where the word is sown but when

they have heard Satan cometh immediately

and taketh away the word that was sown

in their hearts notice this um he’s

explaining the parable here and he makes

it very clear that this is talking about

the word of God being sown in their

heart in Matthew 13: 19 a parallel

passage it’s the same story just

recorded in Matthew’s gospel it says the

reason that Satan was able to steal the

word from this first group of people is

because they didn’t understand it we

spent a lot of time talking about that

then in verses 16 and 17 it describes

the second type of heart condition where

the word is sown and it says these are

they likewise which are sown on Stony

ground who when they have heard the word

immediately receive it with gladness and

have no root in themselves and so endure

but for a Time afterward when Affliction

or persecution ariseth for the word sake

immediately they are offended now I’ve

spent a number of days talking about

this verse 16 and 17 but I hope you all

will just indulge me because these are

two verses that God used to I mean

radically change my life I’ve given a

lot of examples about how that this I

mean this exact passage Mark

4:16-17 is one of the major turning

points of my life because there was a

period of time that I used to go listen

to other people Minister the word of God

and I would get excited I would come

back to my denominational church and I

would Minister those things for a period

of time and I mean for a week or two

just we we would see people’s lives

changed then I would come under intense

criticism they would begin to start

persecuting me and uh come against the

things that I was teaching and I would

continue to teach but I it just lost its

power then I’d go back to some of these

meetings I’d come back all fired up and

the Lord showed me that the reason that

it would only last for a while is

because I didn’t have any root in myself

just exactly as the Lord was describing

here and I find that there are a large

number of people in the body of Christ

that this is exactly where they are as a

matter of fact I don’t remember if I

said this but there’s four types of

ground listed here and I believe that

not only are these just four separate

types of people’s hearts but it’s a

progression that you go through the very

first time a person hears the word of

God our hearts are all naturally

hardened towards the things of God just

by neglect and the word of God has to

start penetrating the very first thing

that happens is our heart is just so

hardened at the first time it doesn’t

seem to penetrate us many of us have to

wait until we’re in a crisis situation

some kind of negative things where our

heart opens up and we’re looking for

answers before the word can penetrate

then the second step is that we get

excited about the word and we are

excited about the potential the

possibility that it has in our life but

when it starts costing us something when

people start criticizing us when you get

made fun of by family or friends or

people at work and things like this

there’s a lot of people that let go of

the word right then and the word word

never brings its full fruit to

manifestation then the third type of

person is a person who has made a

commitment they are going to let the

word take rooted root in their heart but

they just get occupied with the cares of

this life the deceitfulness of riches

and the lust of other things and that’s

the third type and then the fourth type

of person described in this

Parable is a person who brought fruit to

Perfection and we’ll be talking about

those other things so this second type

of person that we’re talking about here

I believe that this is a progression and

in my life there was a time that the

word of God just never even seemed to

penetrate me then there was this period

of time where I got excited about it I

could see these truths but because of

the criticism that was coming my way I

would be offended I wouldn’t necessarily

quit believing or quit speaking the

things that I was learning and that God

was showing me but I would lose my faith

my confidence in it and I would be more

gunshy31 are listening by radio right

now that this is exactly where you are

you may even be excited about the things

that you’re hearing me say right now but

are you going to be able to take this

and start applying your life to it start

seeing the word of God work in your life

and if you get criticism for it if

people criticize you because no longer

are you the football fanatic or no

longer are you the sports fanatic or the

soap oper fanatic or you’re beginning to

start changing in your priorities and

the word of God is becoming more

important to you than some of these

other things and if people criticize you

and make fun of you you used to go out

with the guys or the girls and all these

kind of things and then they they all of

a sudden now you are spending more time

with the Lord and in the word and you’re

going to church and people start

criticizing you are you going to be able

to stand against that I know that there

are some people right now who are

watching or listening to this program

who are embracing the things I’m saying

but are you willing to stand and even if

it cost you a friendship a

relationship see these are the kinds of

commitments that you’ve got to make and

if you aren’t willing to do that then

the word of God will not really have the

impact in your life that it’s supposed

to have one other thing I want to

mention about this second

type of person before we go on here is

that the Lord begin to show me that

getting a root system notice it says in

verse 17 it says they have no root in

themselves in other words they were

receiving their nourishment from someone

else but they didn’t have root in

themselves you know the power of God

lives on the inside of you you do not

have to always be going through another

person to reach God but if you are born

again God himself lives on the inside of

you and you can tap into that life but

it’s just like a seed it’s got to put

root down to be able to go down inside

the earth and bring out those minerals

and the water this is why that you see

trees that are planted along a stream or

an aquafer you’ll find out that they

flourish and grow bigger and better than

other things and it’s because their

roots are able to tap into that water

that’s the reason that a plant that’s uh

on Stony ground does not really bear

fruit is because it may grow at first

but it isn’t able to go down and tap

into any type of

nourishment all right so I really love

this this um portion that we’re doing

because you you really start getting

into Mark chapter 4 and you talk about

how this is the parable of Parables and

I think that’s really uh key what you

say there because if you don’t

understand this one you don’t understand

so much of the word of God so why how

when would when did you get a revelation

really of Mark well I had read those

verses before but you know Jamie and I

it is right after we got married it was

just maybe one or two months after we

got married

and we were still in the Baptist Church

and I was teaching and man I was being

ridiculed and throttled back and

threatened and all kinds of stuff and U

there was a lady who actually was my

like a spiritual mother to me she she

was uh 20 something years older than me

and had spoken into my life and she was

one of Jaime’s mentors too so she was

really important to both of us and she

she wasn’t like the others in the sense

that she disliked us and was mad at us

but she thought I was going a little bit

too far yeah and she was beginning to

put the breaks on us and criticize us

and so uh right after Jamie and I got

married we had some friends that had a

trailer house at one of the lakes lake

toak and we were there on a Saturday

night before Sunday and Sunday I was

going to be rebuked again I knew it was

coming and we anyway it’s a long story I

could go into more explanation but we

were reading Mark chapter 4 MH and it

talked about how that once the word was

sewn afflictions and persecutions come

and it keeps you get offended yeah and

the Lord showed me that offended doesn’t

mean you quit believing it you just lose

your enthusiasm you lose your confidence

in it and uh it’s because of afflictions

and persecutions and I didn’t have any

root in myself and anyway it’s a longer

story than that but when I saw that

Jamie and I prayed that night and said

from now

on uh God’s word is going to dominate us

and we don’t care who or what or

anything that comes against us they are

not going to steal the word of God from

us that that really was a key moment

because I know you referenced that that

was Major yeah quite a few times uh

throughout even uh later on in the

series here and even prior to this as

well that I mean and to me when you

shared about What offense actually is

and what offense actually does most

people look at offense and they say oh

it’s when you’re at mad at somebody else

or when you’re going to you’re going to

hold a grudge against somebody else it’s

really not it’s it’s what impacts you is

yeah an Old Testament scripture that

parallels this is where he told Joshua

Don’t Be Afraid or

dismayed and most people don’t know what

dismayed means but the word dismayed

means to lose your enthusiasm your

confidence or it would be the equivalent

of being offended wow and so it’s not

just enough to be a you know you know

may not be afraid but if you’re dismayed

you’ve lost your confidence and it’s

just to a lesser degree and it will keep

you from bearing fruit well it’s it’s

that’s powerful because then going back

to what we were talking about with um

with John the Baptist um and you

referred to him before it’s like the

aspect of you know don’t be offended of

this so well then let me ask this

because in this story you talk about um

and in the clip you talk about how you

just you guys cut it off that’s it okay

and you said you know at that time

that’s where you were in your

understanding in your maturity and maybe

you would have done it different today

which I think that’s awesome because you

well let me just add to this before you

get to that point that the very next day

after we made that decision we went to

church and after church we went over to

some people’s house and this lady got

Jamie and took her up into an upper

bedroom and said he’s going off the deep

end you’re the only one that can stop

him and she leaned on Jamie and Jamie

said I agree with him and we walked out

of that house and out of that church and

didn’t see those people for 12 years wow

and they were really close to us and

again maybe we could have done better

but you know and it was just a crisis

situation and well you you emphasiz that

you know it was about the commitment to

the word that that’s what you were

standing for and maybe again like you

said maybe doing it different or not you

said at the time it was about defending

the word and then you challenge people

said not a lot of you would be willing

to make such a radical decision about

the word because you place other things

as more importance let me give you

another illustration people hate me for

saying this but again it’s just my

testimony it’s the way it is I can’t

help it and I probably could have done

it better but my mother was she was

having thyroid problems and she was one

night why doesn’t God healed me and she

pressed right here and says I feel this

all and she and I stayed up until two

2:00 in the morning talking to her and

anyway she got totally healed of her

thyroid problems so she was excited and

I saw on her calendar she wrote from now

on I’m not being sick I’m walking in

health and then about a month after she

made that decision she was going down to

visit my aunt and I told her I said now

this Aunt every time you go all you do

is talk about who died who’s got this

cancer what divorce has happen all you

do is visit about all the bad stuff and

I said

do that you can’t do it even though she

said but she helped raise me and I said

you can do it nice but you just got to

stand anyway she went down to see my

aunt she couldn’t stand she she just

felt like it was disrespectful and sure

enough she came back with a cold and we

were going on a vacation and so she says

I can’t go I’ve got a cold I’ll give

Joshua we only had our oldest son at

that time and he was one-year-old and

I’ll give him a cold and I said he’ll be

fine he’s going to be okay so anyway we

went and then she she just gried and she

was really condemned because she had

tried to take a stand and it didn’t work

and so she was really condemned and she

was negative and complaining about

everything and the very first night we

stopped in a hotel and we were all in

one room Jamie and I were in one bed she

was in another bed and we had a crib

that they brought in for Joshua and I

mean in the middle of the night he woke

up with this cro that was so loud it it

would wake everybody up so I got up and

I prayed over him and prayed in tongues

and in a few minutes he was back to

sleep and this guy this happened every

10 or 15 minutes for three or four hours

yeah and it was 2:00 or 3: in the

morning and I it was dark and I was

headed back to bed and right as I was

about to get back in bed she said admit

it Andy he’s

sick and uh I got right down in her face

and I said Satan in the name of Jesus I

rebuke you you are’t cursing my child

and I said we’re healed by the stripes

of

Jesus and I you know it was the same

thing that Jesus did with Peter about

get behind me Satan I wasn’t really

talking her but the devil was trying to

speak to her through her to me and

anyway I did that and guess what Josh

never woke up another time during the

night he was totally fine and for 4 days

on a vacation she never spoke to me wow

I can’t imagine why did you chalk that

up to a good vacation or a bad vacation

and then finally she says I’m sorry you

think I’m the devil and I said mother I

don’t think you’re the devil but that

was the devil speaking through you and I

wasn’t going to give him place and

anyway we got over it and we had a great

relationship and again I probably could

have done that a lot better than I did

but I but the point is you can’t let

anybody or anything come against you

when Jesus spoke to Peter he didn’t hate

Peter no but he was he was human he was

tempted in all points like as we are and

for here somebody say you don’t have to

die there’s some other way to accomplish

that’s basically what the Satan offered

him was a different way of accomplishing

and he recognized that his faith was

being CH challenged and he turned around

and gave No Quarter to it amen you look

at you look at Mark chapter 4 and you

really delved into this in just terms of

talking about the different types of

ground of course starting off with the

very first type of ground where people

don’t understand it so the Devil comes

immediately try to steal it steal that

word away and so you were just standing

on the word that you had already had a

revelation on so that’s powerful and

then also in this clip utad talked about

how each one of those four types of

ground mentioned in Mark chapter 4 were

it’s also a progression of people’s

hearts in terms of how they grow in

their relationship with God yeah I

thought that was really powerful you

talked about that so progression is that

what you’ve experienced in your life as

well where you you progress to that

nobody start off being fruitful ground

all of us have had our hearts hardened

through to sin we’re insensitive to God

and so the first type of person is a

person who really doesn’t have a heart

for God Isn’t seeking God and so they

hear the word but it lays on the surface

Satan takes it the second person is a

person who gets excited about it which

is the next step but they don’t get

rooted and grounded they just want to

immediately see this fruit and if they

don’t see everything work out instantly

then they get offended the third type is

where I believe I still deal with this

and that is where the word is sown it is

producing fruit but the Affliction the

cares of this life the uh cares of this

world and the deceitfulness of riches

lust in I come enter in and it chokes it

and and so it’s being busy yeah we were

talking about this that you can get busy

not just with bad things but even

Ministry things and you can become so

busy that you don’t have time to to

nurture that seed and keep it in your

heart and so it’s a progress

and the fourth type of soil is the only

one that produced and so nobody jumps

from the first soil to the fourth soil

immediately you have to prepare your

heart that’s really that’s really good

so can somebody well and maybe this is

we’ll actually save this question

because I know you’re going to continue

to talk about this but um we’re going to

watch a new clip where we’re can

continue to talk about Mark chapter 4

and go deeper into that and then we’ll

be right

back so today I want to begin to start

teaching out of Mark chap 4 I taught a

parable in Mark 4:26 through 29 on our

programs last week but this week I want

to start teaching about the parable of

the sewer sowing the seed Jesus taught

this Parable first in the first part of

Mark chapter 4 and he just talked about

a man who took seed this isn’t like the

way we plant seed today where you dig a

Furrow and you space your seed this is

talking about a person who just had a

bag of seed uh and he would broadcast

cast it just throw it like this and he

threw it everywhere and it landed on

four different types of soil the first

type of soil was where it people had

been walking it was like a path and the

dirt was packed so uh you know uh strong

it was so compacted that the seed never

penetrated the ground and so the birds

just came and ate the seed off the

ground the second type of ground that it

fell upon was where there was some

opportunity for the seed to get into the

soil

but there it was rocky soil and it was

so much rock that there was no depth for

the seed and so the seed produced a

little bit of growth but it didn’t bring

fruit because it just didn’t have the

root system to be able to sustain it the

third type of ground that it fell upon

was where there was a depth of Earth it

could put down Roots but there was also

thorns and there were weeds and things

that choked the nourishment from the

soil and depleted it and because of it

no fruit grew to Perfection and then

there was a fourth type of soil and this

soil was soil that was good soil it had

room for growth there wasn’t the weeds

and things like this and because of it

the seed produced 30 60 and 100 fold and

so that was the parable that Jesus gave

after Jesus had given the parable his

disciples came unto him and look at this

in Mark 4:9 and he said unto them he

that hath ears to hear Let Him hear and

in verse 10 is when his disciples came

to him and and it says when he was alone

they that were about him with the 12

asked him of the parable and he said

unto them unto you it is given to know

the mysteries of the kingdom of God but

unto them that are without all these

things are done in Parables that seeing

they may see and not perceive and

hearing they may hear and not understand

lest at any time they should be

converted and their sins should be

forgiven them now there’s a lot I could

say about this but basically he’s saying

that you have an anointing through the

Holy Spirit to understand these words

the holy spirit is one that inspired the

Bible and when you receive the baptism

of the Holy Spirit he will give you

revelation of his word I could teach on

this for days but when I received the

baptism of the Holy Spirit I did speak

in tongues and that’s important and I

talk about that lot but did you know the

greatest difference in my life that the

baptism of the Holy Spirit made was that

the word of God came alive prior to that

time I would read it and it was like uh

any other book you might get something

out of it but it was kind of dry but

when I received the baptism of the Holy

Spirit I could not open the Bible and

read it without God speaking to me the

holy spirit is the one who Moved people

they were moved by the holy H Spirit and

the Holy Spirit inspired these words

they are God breath so the author the

Holy Spirit when you receive him the

number one thing that happened in my

life the word of God just came alive

every time I would read the Bible God

would just shout at me I was receiving

Revelation and it’s like this 50 years

later I’m still receiving it’s awesome

so anyway what he’s saying is that the

word of God isn’t hidden from us it’s

hidden for us you need the baptism of

the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit

quickening the word to you and God has

spoken he spoke through these Parables

but to anybody who has the Holy Spirit

he will explain these things is what

he’s saying and then he said this in

verse 13 and this is really important he

said unto them know ye not this Parable

and how then will you know all

Parables what this does is place an

importance on this parable of the S

sowing the seed as like the uh key to

understanding all of The Parables that

Jesus taught boy that is a big statement

right there did you know I haven’t got

time to prove this to you but again if

you were to get my living commentary one

of the things we do in there is arrange

the four gospels in chronological order

not just where you read through Matthew

and then Mark and then Luke and then

John but you go and you see the

chronological order of events and that’s

important because if you take all four

of the gospels and put them together

Jesus actually taught 13 parables in

this one day this is the most

information in one day of Jesus teaching

that we have recorded in the Bible you

can’t get that by just reading Mark

alone you have to go through all of this

but he taught all of these Parables 13

in one day and of course there were

other Parables that he gave at different

times and the key to understanding all

of these parables and the lessons that

Jesus was teaching through them is

understanding this parable of the S

sewing the sea now that places an

importance on understanding this Parable

that lifts it elevates it to a position

that man we need to know this and I can

truthfully say that since it was

probably

1972 I think when I begin to really

start getting a revelation of this

Parable and I can say that this Parable

has become a like a foundation to so

many things I refer to this and to the

principles that God taught me through

this Parable I refer to these things

nearly on a daily basis I would dare to

say that probably every day of my life

for the P past um whatever that’s been

40 something years this has become just

a foundation thing so if if the parable

of the sewer sowing the seed here is not

one of the things that is foundational

in your life if you don’t feel like God

has spoken to you through this Parable

then I can say based on what Jesus said

then you aren’t getting what’s in all of

the rest of these Parables you’ve got to

understand this before you understand

other things this is

foundational this this is important some

of you may just be flipping through your

dial and you may have just happened upon

this program and you’re just listening

for a second I’m telling you this is

something that you need to get and it’s

you aren’t going to get it all I can’t

tell you everything that the Lord has

shown me over the last 40 something

years through this Parable in one 30

minute program that’s the reason that

I’ve got these materials that’s the

reason we archive these programs on our

website you can go there and see them

but you need to study this this needs to

become Foundation to you because this is

like the Rosetta Stone to the kingdom of

God you know to today they have this uh

uh language program called the Rosetta

Stone and and especially a lot of

younger people may when you say

rosettastone you think of this um this

language program that they put out to

help you learn other languages but if

you go back in history what the Rosetta

Stone was people had discovered a huge

amount of Egyptian artifacts but

everything was in hieroglyphics and

nobody could break the hieroglyphic iics

and finally the thing the key that

opened this whole thing up they found a

Rosetta Stone and it was a stone and I

may get this wrong some I’ve had people

correct me but there were three

languages on there two of them were

known languages and the third one was

hieroglyphics and it was the exact same

thing written in these three different

languages since two of the languages

were known well then what they had to do

was just go take this and use it to

interpret hieroglyphics and so the

Rosetta Stone is the key that unlocked

all of the hieroglyphics and all of the

uh understanding the knowledge about the

Egyptian uh culture because somebody was

able to finally speak uh and understand

these hieroglyphics and so what I’m

saying is that this parable of the sewer

sewing the seed is like that Rosetta

Stone this is the key to unlocking the

word word of God for you all of The

Parables of God that’s what Jesus said

right here in Mark 4:13 he said unto

them know ye not this Parable and how

then will you know all Parables if you

can’t understand the truths in this

Parable you can’t understand any of the

rest of them this is

foundational man that’s big I just pray

that you understand how important things

I’m sharing with you this is the key to

unlocking the word of God for you so

here is is Jesus interpretation of this

Parable in verse 14 he says the swer

Seth the word now this is huge and I’ve

made a big point out of this last week

when I was teaching from Mark

426 through 29 and I was saying that the

word of God is to the kingdom of God the

way that seeds are to this natural world

everything in this natural world is

based off of seeds every plant every

grass all of the animals and you and I

our bodies were made from seeds you

can’t have life without seeds that’s the

way that God created this

world and the kingdom of God also

operates off of seeds but the seed is

the word of God the swer Seth the word

and I believe it’s very significant that

God chose a godm system instead of a

human-made system you know I may have

taught on this earlier in this series

but it Bears repeating that if God had

made a human system like say for

instance school I have a Bible school

and you know in Bible school we give

tests and you have to pass these tests

in order to be promoted and to stay in

school we want to make sure that people

just aren’t warming a seat but that

they’re getting something so you have

test but did you know that this is a

man-made system

because you can cheat on test you can

look on your neighbor deal you cannot

really pay attention in class and yet

the night before a test you can cram for

a test I bet you that most of the people

watching this sometime or another did

this I did when I was in high school I

really wasn’t paying attention in class

but the night before a test I’d go back

and I’d stay up nearly all night long

reviewing and I would put this

information in my shortterm memory but

it wasn’t in my long-term memory and

today if I was to go back I probably

couldn’t pass the same test that I

passed back 50 years ago because I

didn’t really learn it I cheated I beat

the system you can cram for a test but

you can’t cram for a

harvest you can’t wait until the night

before a harvest and go out and plant

your seed and say well I I was busy

doing other things but you know what I

know Harvest is tomorrow and so I’m

going to go out and plant my seed it

doesn’t work that way I actually had a

man who who did that in one of the

places where I ministered this guy got

born again and I mean he had been the

worst sinner in the entire County

everybody knew this man but when he got

born again he got so on fire for God

that he was busy with the Full Gospel

BisMan circuit he was traveling and

giving his testimony and he just didn’t

have time to plant his crops the way

that he normally did so instead of

planting his wheat when he should have

he waited until just I don’t know a week

or two or maybe a month before weed

Harvest and he went and borrowed

$500,000 to plant I forgot how many

acres it was it wasn’t counted in acres

it was counted in sections there’s 640

acres in a section and he planted

multiple sections of wheat just with one

month to go before the wheed Harvest and

his Harvest his seed didn’t come up and

now he was in financial problems cuz he

borrowed this money to plant the seed

against the Harvest and his seed didn’t

come up and he came to me and he was

upset and he says why didn’t this work I

was out doing God’s business I was

giving my testimony and he says God

should have you know made this wheat

come up and I told him that no the Bible

teaches that there’s seed th and harvest

you can’t cram for a harvest you can’t

miss the time to plant your seed and

then just plant it the night

before everybody else is harvesting

their seed it doesn’t work that way

there are laws that govern How seed time

and harvest works and I think that in

the natural realm everybody understands

that but in the spiritual realm there

are people that constantly are trying to

get a harvest without planting the seed

or they wait until a crisis and they are

staring I mean absolute disaster in the

face and so the night before four it

looks like everything’s going to fall

apart you are staying up and you’re

praying and you’re fasting and you’re

calling the prayer chain and you’re

doing all of this you’re trying to cram

for a harvest that’s not how it

works I love H in that one you continue

to go down deeper into these four levels

and what you were talking about but you

really emphasize the work of the holy

spirit in partnership with the soil of

our hearts so you shared about you

receiving the Holy Spirit how how has

that continued and what would you say to

those who don’t have the Holy Spirit

they need to get it get him but you know

um when I receive the baptism of the

Holy Spirit we’ll often say that the

baptism of the holy spirit is

accompanied by speaking in tongues some

people even say that that is the proof

that you’ve got it I think it’s a proof

yeah but uh I I don’t emphasize it that

much but speaking in tongues is nearly

always emphasized and associated with uh

receiving the Holy Spirit and I agree

with that but for me the number one

thing that changed when I received the

Holy Spirit is that the Bible just came

alive yeah now prior to that I have read

the Bible every day of my life since I

was old enough to read yeah I

remember going to a rodeo one night and

I must have been like six or seven or

something like that and my dad car I

fell asleep in the car coming

home and he carried me to bed and put me

in bed and I remember waking up and

thinking I hadn’t read my Bible yet and

I got up and read my Bible before I go

to sleep I at 6 or S I could not go to

sleep without reading my Bible so I’ve

read the Bible every day of my life but

when I received the baptism of the Holy

Spirit it wasn’t just words it became

alive just like Hebrews 4:12 the word of

God is quick alive and Powerful and I

mean the word it just like after I

received the baptism of the Holy Spirit

I would open up the Bible and I couldn’t

read a verse without God just shaking me

I mean it would shake me to my core and

I’d think I’ve never seen this before

that’s awesome and I know I’d read those

verses before yeah you know I know I

read in Acts chapter 3 about the man who

was healed at the Gate of the temple and

I’d read that but every time the Baptist

talked about it they didn’t believe that

God healed today so they all always said

we were all like spiritual cripples and

we were crippled emotionally and in our

relationships and Jes and and anyway

they just put a spin on it and I

remember the first time I read Acts

chapter 3 after the baptism of the Holy

Spirit and I nearly got up and shouted

he was healed physically not spiritually

or emotionally he was healed Jesus

healed him through Peter and I got to I

was just so excited about that I mean

the word of God came alive so a person

that doesn’t have the baptism of the

Holy Spirit if they are just reading it

and thinking boy this is boring and I’m

just doing it because Andrew says you

got to do it you need the baptism of the

Holy Spirit Well I mean even think about

the the role of the Holy Spirit I mean

he’s the one who’s supposed to be our

teacher and our counselor and our

comforter it says he’s the spirit of

Truth revealing the things of God

bringing things back to our remembrance

amen that’s when that relationship with

the word so then as you’re going about

your day even though you don’t have the

open all 24 hours the holy spirit’s the

one bringing it back to remembrance so

it gets into that meditation you were

talking about CU then you think upon it

he’s the one that wrote it amen and so

if your heart’s open and you say father

what are you saying man the Holy Spirit

if you will if you’ll receive the Holy

Spirit he’ll just tell you what it says

and once it becomes

alive uh there’s nothing like that you

know I’ve seen my wife and my son raised

from the dead and I’ve been blessed to

see many people healed and lives changed

and I’ve seen God do a lot of things and

if somebody was to ask me what’s the

greatest thing that you’ve ever

experienced from the Lord I’d say it’s

when the word of God Comes Alive amen

and some people don’t relate to that but

that’s because they’ve never had the

word of God really come alive to him but

like Jeremiah he says it’s like fire in

my bones I couldn’t forbear I had to

speak and the disciples on the road to a

us they said the same thing did not our

hearts burn within us and if you’ve

never had the word of God God just come

alive and I mean God Almighty speak to

you through words that are on a page

it’s it’s the greatest experience I

think I’ve ever had so looking at the

role of the holy spirit in in um in

correlation with what you shared before

as far as even each one of those

different types of ground being a

progression as well not just a heart but

a progression of our

hearts how important and integral do you

feel that the holy spirit is is in

walking a person through that process of

growth and transformation wow it’s it’s

imperative you can’t do anything without

the Holy Spirit you know Zechariah 46 I

believe it is says not by might nor by

power but by my spirit says the Lord

look at it this way Jesus didn’t do any

Miracles he didn’t Minister he didn’t do

anything until the Holy Spirit came upon

him and he started his ministry if Jesus

couldn’t or wouldn’t Minister without

the Holy Spirit who do we think we are

well and even after

death and Resurrection defeating hell

sin in the

grave showing himself tells the

disciples don’t go out that’s right

until you’ve been endued with power even

to a point where he says it’s good that

I go away because then the holy spirit

that comfor yeah it’s better I mean your

advantage what what an incredible

statement Jesus saying it’s good that

I’m leaving because this this comfort

and most people don’t share that belief

because we don’t really appreciate the

Holy Spirit most people would rather

have the physical presence of Jesus

because we’ve read about what he’s done

but they but the Holy Spirit Works

through people and behind the scenes

he’s not as obvious but Jesus said it’s

actually better to have the Holy Spirit

so we just don’t appreciate him the way

we should and I think this is a really

important lesson because I believe

there’s some people that are

Spirit-filled and they read their Bible

but in their brains and their hearts

they’re twoo separate things like I got

yeah I speak in tongues over here and

that’s one part of my life and I read my

Bible my three chapters over here but

they haven’t brought it together they

haven’t allowed even or invited the Holy

Spirit to teach them and to like they

don’t understand that that huge portion

well again faith comes by hearing and

hearing by the word of God and if you

haven’t been taught about the Holy

Spirit and if you don’t expect anything

he’s not going to force himself upon you

God does not do things without us

believing you in a sense have to reach

out and take what God has given you he

does

spoon feed you he doesn’t put it

intravenously into you yeah and so if

you haven’t been taught about the Holy

Spirit if you’re expectations or nothing

you’ll get nothing yeah so you know this

is one of the things that back during

the charismatic move when I really got

the baptism of the Holy Spirit you never

ever ever ever went to a service that

you didn’t hear about the Holy Spirit

and even in the churches that didn’t

believe in the baptism of the Holy

Spirit they were preaching against it

regularly but it was the whole Holy

Spirit was the focus and because of it

there were Miracles taking place and

things like that because people were

open to it but today people are not

expecting much because it’s not talked

about in fact you can go into churches

and even at many of the conferences here

the first night you’re always making

call to the Baptist Holy Spirit and

there’s always dozens and dozens of

people that might have even been

listening or or been acquainted with the

ministry for years but it’s like that

call telling him you need this it’s

important that people respond I remember

going to a friend’s church that had

nearly 2,000 people in his church and I

bet you when I gave an invitation for

the baptism he must had 300 people come

forward wow and so they believed in it

and they would talk about it but people

just I don’t know not even spirit filled

churches aren’t emphasizing the baptism

of the Holy Spirit as much as they

should I really like how you even

correlated that with um the seed time

and harvest how you talked about how

there needs to be time in the process of

your growth in your relationship with

the Holy Spirit your relationship with

the word and how sometimes we wait for a

crisis to really go to the word and look

for deliverance from the Lord and we

pray all these prayers but it takes time

for us to get that seed in our in our

hearts and to really grow I think the

example that you used was a a person who

planted uh wheat a month before Harvest

time so I’m sitting car’s we’re sitting

there listening to it and car’s car’s

getting S I could tell she’s getting

frustrated because Sheed it and I was

like okay so here’s the deal she com

from a farming back okay I’m like no

Banker in their right mind would have

given him $500,000 knowing the season

and the time no Banker would have done

that so he I said what about that story

is probably even more crazy he borrowed

it probably from Friends well I don’t

know he could have hawked his land you

know put a mortgage against I don’t know

how he did it I was just it riled me up

I’m like man our Banker never gave us

and did you know he slded

sections a section is 640 acres that’s

no small thing no I know I’ve planted

sections before and it’s a lot a whole

section yeah I’ve it’s yeah you’re all

day on the tractor oh yeah all day that

is a lot of work but really I mean

there’s there’s a process that has to

happen is to see the time in the Harvest

there has to be that whole process and

if we have not taken that time to put

the word in and really concentrate and

meditate on the word and you and ask the

holy spirit for Revelation then when

difficult time comes we’re going to find

ourselves disarmed

yeah you know the holy spirit in John

14:15 and 16 is called the hel helper y

the comforter I think four times yeah

and he Jesus said I’m not going to leave

you comfortless I’m going to leave a

comforter with you and then he talked

about he will show you things to come

and he will bring back to your

remembrance what I’ve spoken yeah the

holy spirit is absolutely essential to

not only growth but even maintaining

what you have as a Christian and yet so

few Christians yeah really focus on the

Holy Spirit and this is why speaking in

tongues is so important is because it’s

one thing to just say all right I’m

thinking about the Holy Spirit I’m

meditating or something but when you

speak in tongues you are saying words

that you don’t have a clue what you’re

saying and your natural mind yeah wants

to shut it off and go to doing something

that is real instead of this make

believe stuff it takes Faith to speak in

tongues and Faith to say father I

believe this is the holy spirit that’s

inspired and it just focuses your

attention it’s like flipping a switch

that just automatically turns on the

power of the Holy Spirit and

Supernatural things begin to happen when

you pray in tongues well I’m just

thinking as you’re as you’re speaking

there just the aspect of when a person

first hears the word in order for them

to really get past not understanding the

they need a counselor and that’s the

holy spirit so that brings them to the

next phases of of really building roots

and getting past the the thorns and

being able to uproot those and that that

takes patience that takes the Holy

Spirit and bearing fruit is going to

take the holy spirit so he’s essential Y

no matter what part of life that you’re

walking in he is absolutely essential to

see that growth of the word of God we

had Richard Roberts with us not too long

ago and we were talking in the green

room and we were talking about speaking

in tongues and he said his dad Oral

Roberts said he he didn’t even know how

to pray until he prayed in tongues he

always prayed in tongues first before he

would pray in English there is a place

for pray in English but I mean really

that’s how dependent upon the holy

spirit he was that he wouldn’t even try

and express himself until he had prayed

in tongues let the Holy Spirit Inspire

him do you make that a point in your

life Andrew where you’re focus on

speaking in tongues and and just just

different I know it’s different seasons

it’s different time frames but are you

intentional about I speak in tongues a

lot I couldn’t even tell you I would

imagine that nearly anytime I pray I

pray in tongues at least some but then

there are sometimes that I just know

that I need to encourage myself and the

Bible says you build up yourself on your

Most Holy Faith praying in the Holy

Ghost and so there’s times that I’ll

pray in tongues an hour two hours I

prayed in tongues one time 17 hours

without stopping because I was fighting

for a guy’s life and uh so I pray in

tongues a lot like Paul I pray in

tongues more than

y’all one of the things I love in this

uh episode as well you talk about you

can’t cram for a harvest in the kingdom

of God that’s a great demon yeah cuz

you’re talking about the whole sea time

and harvest just like there’s a natural

process and sometimes you can cheat a

natural process but spiritually you

can’t and so what would you say to those

that are are again they’re wanting this

end result so fast that they’re just

they’re not willing to take the time

they are you aren’t going to walk in

consistent Victory you know no blind

squirrel catch a nut every once in a

while but I mean you aren’t going to

walk in the victory that Jesus want you

to have if you wait until a crisis and

then you go to seeking the Lord you’re

going to have to get to where you live

by faith you don’t visit there you don’t

vacation there this is where you live

and um again that’s the reason that so

few people experience all of the

blessings that God has for us is because

they’re on and off again it’s like

dieting some people will diet and go to

extremes to lose weight and then as soon

as they lose weight they go back to

eating the way they did before they gain

it all back yeah it needs to be a

lifestyle yeah but this really this

really and you said this this really is

a law of God and if we take that to

heart right now in times what whatever

season we’re in right now if we’ll sew

the word if we’ll meditate on the word

if we’ll have the Holy Spirit to to to

bring it back to our remembrance then we

can be prepared for anything that

happens in the future yeah well we talk

about seed time and harvest and some

people get stuck on the time I don’t

want to wait so long but it’s a law seed

time and then Harvest is inevitable

if you keep that seed planted and that’s

what you need to focus on is not on the

time it takes but on the results that’s

coming well and for a lot of people you

know seed time and harvest they’re

seeing seed time as one word and it’s

actually seed time and harvest so it’s

actually three words but people say oh

seed time and harvest and so they just

think that I just plant the seed and

there it’s done and then I have a

harvest but the seed comma time comma

harest seed joce Myers says seed time

well thank you this is awesome we’re

going to continue in more episodes of

Aur foundation so thank you Andrew for

sharing this with

us well Andrew said some powerful things

with this whole lesson we talked about

Mark chapter 4 the types of soil the

conditions of our hearts and I think

there uh are so many people that are

even watching at this moment that you’ve

you are experiencing seeing some of

these same things and you’re saying oh

yep I can identify with that area of my

heart so well even Andrew jumping in

talking about the Holy Spirit I thought

that was really significant just in in

terms of the difference that it made in

his relationship with the word oh yeah

as well as the difference it’s made in

so many different people’s lives and I I

just always it’s always amazing to me

even after 56 years in Ministry whenever

he talks about the Holy Spirit and the

word coming alive through the revelation

of the Holy Spirit how excited that he

gets about that I mean really that’s

that being one of the major major things

in his life that the Holy Spirit has

done for him and I think that that

really is an example to all of us to

really trust in the holy spirit that

he’s going to bring forth the word of

God and make it come alive in our lives

well and I think that as we’re listening

each of us can be like well how do I

change yeah my heart how do I if if my

heart is this soil and it’s

key to the seed right it’s still seed

and praise God even when you got a hard

heart like he said just just let the

word of God he said this in the first

clip just let the word of God start to

penetrate your heart because sometimes I

think people will start off in the word

and they’re like I don’t see any massive

change right away like it’s not working

no you’ve got to like soften it it’s

like hard soil you got to you got to put

some water on it and you got to right

you got you’re loosening it up that’s

what God is doing when you’re spending

time in the word but when I think about

for all of us in the condition of our

hearts and Andrew even talked about that

third type of of soil where the cares

and the distractions of this world

that’s that’s even the good stuff right

that’s not even the bad stuff that’s

just the good stuff what I love is that

the holy spirit is the key the holy

spirit is the one who can help us with

the condition of our hearts I don’t know

how many times I’ve asked the Holy

Spirit Holy Spirit could you remind me

today of of of the word could you could

you bring this back to my remembrance

um could you remind me to pray in the

spirit today I’m always asking the Holy

Spirit like he’s my like virtual like

virtual assistant I remember before we

got married how you used to talk about

my husband the Holy Spirit and that was

that was always the conversation I I

said okay I guess I have competition now

I’m just joking my second husband yeah

but uh but the reality is the holy

spirit I mean what he does for us you

know Andrew even references this in

terms of John 14 through 6 16 how he is

our comforter he’s our counselor he

brings back to to our remembrance the

words that Jesus spoke how integral he

is into our in our lives to really spur

on the growth that the word can cause in

our lives and cause us to walk in that

victory that Jesus has already provided

for us so it’s such a key part and I

believe that it’s underemphasized in the

body of Christ so often so I really want

to encourage you you know go back and

listen to this lesson again where Andrew

shared about the changes that happened

in his life you’ll see how it matches up

with his experience with the Holy Spirit

and how that word has come alive and

really inspired him to grow grow faster

grow further to to Really experience the

Lord in a different way through his word

and the where the word would actually

come alive and Revelation was spring

forth yeah and I think that when we are

talking about the the sure Foundation of

God’s word I love that we are delving

into Mark chapter 4 the four types of

the soil and he actually talks about

that this is key the the kingdom

understanding of all the other Parables

and if you’re sitting there listening

and like well I still don’t understand

this wait a minute what about that this

is why we are going through this is why

we’re breaking it down we’re camping on

asking Andrew these questions so that

you can continue to understand what this

actually looks like and Andrew has said

it over and over again throughout this

series just you know it’s not about

someone else’s Revelation it’s about you

having that understanding CU if you

don’t have the understanding personally

then the enemy going to try to steal

that away so you have a root within

yourself that the word of God is planted

and so I’m excited that for the things

that Andrew is sharing and challenging

us on and then encouraging us that there

is a process you don’t have to be Andrew

walck overnight you have to be the

person that’s pursuing and building

relationship with the word of God with

the leadership of the Holy Spirit that’s

what’s going to help you be able to

fulfill the calls and destinies and have

the victory you were destined to have

because of Christ you know Andrew said

this um he said Harvest is inevitable if

you focus on taking the truth taking the

time to plant the word of God in your

heart I’ll tell you something if we’ll

just make that our priority all the

dreams and all the things that we have

in our heart to accomplish I believe

that it’ll be a natural fruit in our

lives you know um when we talk about um

the things um you know I really want to

invite you that especially as we talk

today about the Holy Spirit maybe there

are some of you that haven never

received the Holy Spirit with the

evidence of speaking in tongues you are

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