Naomi Raine takes car ride with friend Priscilla Shirer to discuss faith, life and #Journey!
I don’t know where I’m going but I
promise you it won’t drive around
anymore yes
I’m going to play you a song okay great
from Journey and then we get to talk
about it what is the name of this one
the name of the song and I had to switch
it
it was called originally suicide I know
but that’s a little triggering so it’s
cold it’s called like you and in
parenthesis okay
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[Applause]
you
that’s it
yes girl
and the the words seriously like the
depth of the words
somebody can’t listen to that song and
just enjoy it like you’re going to enjoy
it rhythmically and musically but you’re
also gonna be like oh Lord
Holy Spirit did you want to deal with me
in my life right
but that’s what’s supposed to be about
though it is
so I have a question for you unless you
have something else you want to just say
we have a question for you okay what
vices of the flesh have been the most
difficult for you to put today okay in
your own life so before it really was
self-consciousness not so much my tongue
I think yeah I wasn’t in
I was in the prayer closet when you’re
in the prayer closet and you’re soaking
and you’re just so you can look it’s
more it’s easy to oh I’m gonna guard my
tongue and guard my heart and all of
that he’s not around anybody but the
Lord but nowadays I am more
um more struggling with my tongue yeah
like
you shush and it’s stuff that I’m maybe
speaking into existence or
um
giving life to not so much like a
gossipy thing but also complaining
correct hello
it’s the murmuring and the complaining
yeah like you know it’s been like really
dealing with me lately like you
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well I’m so grateful for the Holy Spirit
do you understand just conforming us
into the image of Christ seriously
because there would be no hope of any of
us looking like Jesus in any area of our
life if the Holy Spirit himself worked
important and inducing that whole
project I used to be mad when like okay
have you ever have has the Holy Spirit
ever told you something you didn’t
listen or you really realized that it
was him afterward and it’s like yes oh
man I wish I would have done that I used
to be mad at those moments but the Lord
really corrected me quickly he was like
no I’m teaching him how to listen to my
boys that’s right so deal with this
quick pain because this was something
light if there’s coming something bigger
and I’m gonna need you to pay attention
yeah and I’ve been like yeah and I’m so
grateful that it was like just to your
point that his grace is sufficient for
even making those
steps our greatest teachers for a
relationship with them moving forward
that you don’t hold it against us
that’s going to teach you for the future
right I’m so grateful that his grace
covers even though
if the Lord treated me like I even I
treat me I’d have been tossed out it
would have been a sad praise but I’m
having a sad phrase but what about you
what has been like your like bicep the
thing that’s hardest to kill even if it
wasn’t said in the song I was yeah I
think that I am not as gracious towards
others as I appreciate when Grace is
extended to me hmm
I appreciate when people don’t make
assumptions about my intentions or
they’re judgmental about me in a way
like you don’t you don’t even know me
you don’t even know what I was thinking
right
and if you do it’s even more hurtful
when if you do know me then you would
know if even if I offended you or did
the wrong thing if you know me you know
I would never that wouldn’t be my heart
so when people extend Grace to me oh I
didn’t mean to offend you and they know
that it may
say it that way or do it that way the
baby came out the wrong way and they
give me Grace
oh my gosh I’m so grateful for that and
yet I don’t feel like I’m as written to
extend that to other people
I want to I want to be better about that
the same Grace that God lavishly gives
us to have a second and a third and a
fourth and a fifth chance
I want to be gracious like Christies
you know I don’t want to get to a space
where I just I expect that somebody will
never change and like you know how when
you give people and it’s like because
you would hate for the Lord to feel that
way about us you know well she’s a
hopeless cause
but at the same time you can give that
Grace to other people while also having
boundaries as to in regards to how they
relate to you so we had a conversation
earlier
and I think that boundaries has helped
me stay sane
yeah how do you keep yourself behind
that boundary line without it becoming a
wall that keeps other people
from also being close to you and you
having the benefit of healthy
relationships how do you keep yourself
from being armed I with those I’m like I
don’t know I know right but I will tell
you I try I’m a very like I’m a
thoughtful person that like I like to
wrestle with things and I love that
um it’s as like sparring I spar with
people too and I like that because it’s
like oh sharpen me but what about this
yeah what about that
um but I don’t think I don’t think
everything is mutually exclusive I I
believe that she things even though they
seem
they seem um that they can both exist at
the same time and so for me that means I
continue to talk to people and stay open
and I don’t want to be unkind to people
and I think that we’ve missed
use the word nice
too often and we think that nice is kind
and kind is nice and I don’t think those
are the same to find those things so
after Naomi so I think nice is like
it’s sweet yeah and and it could even be
it could even be authentic yeah genuine
genuine
but I think kind is
kind is rooted in love it’s not rooted
in people’s emotions or feelings kind
Choice yes
and it’s and I think it speaks to the
deeper thing so I don’t want to just
make you feel good I want you to be good
I mean I can totally see what you’re
saying because kindness to me implies
action it implies an investment of some
an exertion of something from me to
invest in you sometimes to choose to be
kind since it’s going to require
something of us it feels beyond what we
want to give
do you find that it’s easier to be kind
to yourself or others oh that is a very
good question
um
I think that it’s from me and I know
it’s not the same for everybody but I
think I’m wired in such a way that it’s
probably harder to be kind to others
because I can be
you know you can be easily selected by
the people that are close
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so that wounding sometimes hits me in a
deep way that kind of makes me wanna
so I think sometimes to come out of
myself and keep being kind
making an investment
sometimes to the people who are closest
to me is hard yeah what about you is it
hard it’s the other way it’s hard for me
to be kind to myself why because I don’t
even think I’m aware of when someone is
hurting me
interesting it’s like I I was the one
that like people would say stuff to me
and then I’d be like like later somebody
like girl did it and I’m like what did
they say yeah oh no I was supposed to be
upset like yeah I don’t but I don’t mind
still doing the things for people like
being kind and like showing up and but
I’m not I’m a little guarded so you
almost can’t show up for yeah how do you
feel about this just I totally switched
up this how do you feel about the new
music
to me sometimes when you put them all
you’re all in a resource like this
whether it’s a book like maybe I’m
writing or a project like yeah
get it back and it’s almost like having
a baby where you can have a little bit
of postpartum like you see it
and I should have done that I could have
changed that so how do you feel on this
side of listening to the words you’ve
written like that’s a strong song right
there
oh definitely
152 because I just thought add that
extra 52.
that to me is like but I kind of feel
like that’s a part of my process overall
really which a little sad yeah it’s like
I’m constantly creating it so even when
i that was one of the hardest songs I’ve
written and honestly I didn’t change it
much but I went like I didn’t stick with
the changes okay I went back and forth
like should I change it over and over
and over
um
kind of a lazy one I’m a procrastinating
like because I know it’s not healthy
yeah you know what I’m saying so I will
agonize over it and then I’m like forget
it I’m leaving it alone so I’m proud of
this music now but I am a little bit
like okay next like I’m on today okay
that’s good so I I mean it’s good that
you can just release it let it go and
say okay Holy Spirit there you go when I
wrote that song I wrote that song in
2016. did you really yes I was in a car
and I literally was hearing I wanna know
till it is suicides everything that is
not like you and I just was like oh I
like that you it wasn’t something I like
you
come on it just like came to me and I it
stuck with me I remember I came home I
was singing it my husband was in my
brother was there his girlfriend who’s
now his wife were there and we all were
just like jamming to this voice note I
mean I’m like oh this is gonna be nice
it’s gonna be nice so like
six years later here it is in full
expression
so of course there’s parts to me that’s
like like why’d you do that or why’d you
sing it like that
um why’d you write that word that’s
that’s when though like you trust the
Lord’s timing seriously like 2016 he
gave it to you but allowed you to
release it six years later and it oh my
gosh that’s what I love about stuff you
can’t plan is that it’s gonna intersect
with people’s lives and if they didn’t
hear it right then there’s a whole
trajectory of their life that wouldn’t
be impacted in the way it needed to be
in some real personal intimate important
way if they didn’t hear it right now in
2022. I feel like that’s the sovereignty
yes and Providence of God correct but
the whole Providence of God that right
there is a beautiful thought
um like it might like I got fireworks
going off in my head but like think
about when Saul’s father just sent him
out to go look for donkeys he had told
Samuel the day before there’s a guy
coming that’s going to be looking for
some donkeys and Samuel had already told
his chief Chef reserve the best meal
because tomorrow somebody’s going to be
here all Saul had to do was be obedient
to the assignment of doing this little
Monday passive looking for his Daddy’s
going
Monday
to ask if he was going to enter his life
in the sovereignty and Providence of God
was going to intersect he had stuff that
had already been resolved that’s the
part I’m really like okay okay okay okay
I could sing about that forever I could
sing about the goodness of God forever
I’m serious because it doesn’t end and I
feel like he finds new ways to bless us
and shock us and amaze us and be like
wink at us like yeah donkeys we would
just like faithful and trust and rest
and not force and strive and manipulate
and try to manufacture right if you just
rest and go look for the donkey he’s
like I already got stuff already
reserved for you
you know what I just thought about
baseball for what you just said
I thought about you know how when Jesus
says if you love me obey me oh I wonder
if that’s like one of the greatest gifts
like not that God needs us to do it you
know what I’m saying like but what if it
was like
hey I have to work less things together
for good when you just
like I’m off the edge of my feet to
bless you right just obey me so I just
can give you this good you know
situation I got set up for you I just
want to give you the things and I just
want to love you so if you would just
obey me like mind you he’s he’s always
loving but I just thought of that it’s
like how do we get in the way and try to
like do a bunch of stuff and he’s always
like okay just undoing and know that I
am God that’s what I feel like this
record is going to be did I just show my
age when I said record I just feel like
whatever delays that that happened
before you could get this thing out into
the world even knowing that that song
was on your heart six years ago and now
people are just gonna hear it I just
feel like that was the Lord just the one
I got it I got it I got it and now it’s
getting ready to intersect with people’s
lives
and give folks fresh Revelation Fresh
Fire fresh wind fresh inside fresh to
serve it and Clarity for the next season
of their whole whole life
come on Naomi rain
well I thank you for getting in the car
with me and talking to me I could
literally talk to you for 72 hours
straight
I love you and I’m celebrating you