Bill Johnson and Bethel Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly discuss the church’s responsibility with politics. This is from the final episode of the Rediscover Bethel Series.

i do feel that there are some spiritual

mandates on the church in in election

time i’m not going to control your vote

i’m not going to ask you who you voted

for but but i am without waving a a

banner with some politician’s name on it

i am going to exhort people this is

what’s at stake this is what here’s

here’s the bigger picture

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so in america we have the privilege of

having a representative government so we

um

um which i love better than a straight

democracy let’s be clear

you get straight democracy on facebook

in some ways but uh we get a

if people even watch the facebook

anymore but the uh

the representative government so we have

an opportunity to vote

how are you thinking through

that vote

and then maybe the inner court the the

the dialogue that we have yeah uh with

each other while we’re

you know holding positions because we’ve

talked about this bethel has democrats

and republicans and independents in it

and

so we we’re a little bit like whenever

an election year rolls around we’re like

all right let’s be good to each other

and sometimes we do our and sometimes we

make mistakes and sometimes

we send sideways messages to each other

we have to clean up and

so that’s part of being family and you

know if you’re gonna have a church of

whatever six thousand adults or

something you know like or more eight

thousand then you’re gonna have these

sorts of things what yeah which on your

heart

well i

i’ve been told that something like 25

percent

of christians vote

okay sure that’s not fake news bill or

this kid

i don’t know what to say your point is

taken yeah

very low

very low percentage which means

the righteous influence

for values

is not being expressed

and i’m going to call it a cop-out the

cop-out is oh i only have one vote and

it really it means very little that’s

not not true for a believer

every act of obedience

of a believer releases presence and

power there is no such thing as a single

solitary act that is insignificant

we have to re-identify who we are and

what our responsibility is we’ve got a

responsibility to pray don’t tell me you

pray for the government and then you

don’t vote your prayer is meaningless to

me pray and act there’s prayer and

obedience

and uh it’s we have a responsibility as

citizens vote values not personalities

i’m not gonna you know i don’t get up

and tell people how to vote but i

but i hope that we teach a lot on what

is important in the kingdom

and uh and each party that’s represented

in any given election

uh usually represents part of what we

think is important so that’s why we have

such divided interest within yeah a body

believers who are not voting anti-christ

they’re voting for specific values yeah

well said when they say vote values uh

you’re like some of the values of these

ones i would i would die to protect or

spend my life advancing and other folks

would be like well these are the ones i

would die to protect and spend life

exactly so i want to respect you for

that reason but i also want to be able

to talk through because i i do feel that

there are some spiritual mandates on the

church in in election time i’m not going

to control your vote i’m not going to

ask you who you voted for but but i am

without waving a a banner with some

politician’s name on it i am going to

exhort people

this is what’s at stake this is what

here’s here’s the bigger picture because

sometimes

uh sometimes we as leaders get exposed

to things behind the scenes

where where we know the cost of an

election i don’t mean the financial cost

i mean the implications of of an

election of a given politician of

whatever it might be that we know

we know because we’ve been exposed to

things behind the scene that this is

crucial and uh and so i’m going to do my

best to encourage people to think

through these things value these things

but also to realize

that

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that a vote is important it’s an act

of obedience it’s an act of obedience

and whenever that takes place something

is released that is very very valuable

for us as believers and and i would love

you know in california for for example

where we are

um there are so many believers here

but there are so many that are silent

i’m not asking them to

you know to march down the street i’m

just saying you know be be responsible

be responsible vote values think through

family life through this through that

and and vote accordingly and uh but

don’t don’t sit silent don’t don’t not

vote and then just say well my vote is

insignificant that’s not true that’s

wrong yeah that’s wrong

how about the way that we talk to each

other and you know that um

you know if i was put away

in a particular way i said we give

ourselves permission to be disrespectful

because it’s an election or something

like that you know we

uh somehow that we we have a core value

that honor a firm’s value and yet

sometimes in these places we will just

we’re gonna put that aside and here we

go this is politics and so we’ll try to

put honor on the on the shelf you know

during those times instead of

listening with honor speaking with honor

as we’re disagreeing with honor

yeah that’s scary that’s scary um i

personally i don’t mind dishonoring an

ideal

okay if i feel it is in opposition to

kingdom okay you know

but i don’t want to associate that idea

with this person and then

dishonor them disrespect that make sense

we have to be careful even in in talking

uh about political issues

you know there are a lot of issues that

are that are absolutely immoral they’re

not they’re not gray they’re they’re

obviously

evil i have to be careful that when i

address those things that i’m not

shooting at a politician shooting at

spiritually speaking

verbally i should say

a personality

because our battle is not against flesh

and blood we can’t reduce it

to a

issue of human nature we’ve got we’ve

got to deal with these things

on a much higher plane and so that would

be maybe speaking about a politician or

somebody running for office um

what’s in your heart for the way we

communicate to each other as christians

or christians with

non-believers or

well

i think you need to have relational

equity

if you don’t have relational equity with

the person

don’t pick the tough subject okay until

you can develop it show them some honor

and respect develop some sort of

relational equity where you can

say something that’s more there are

certain people in our environment i

won’t say certain things to they’re 100

percent true but i won’t say it because

it triggers them and we don’t have the

relational equity

so so i’m going to imagine many people

on instagram or facebook we don’t have

that relational equity

that’s interesting all my twitter

followers followers yes

yeah that’s a cruel world yeah that’s a

very cool so in some ways would you have

that same thing as realizing that you

don’t have relational equity with some

of those folks that you’re

trying to communicate with and that

potential is going to be costly yeah i i

don’t i don’t engage much

there’s there’s very i’ve seen twice in

all the years on facebook instagram many

many years many many many posts i’ve

seen twice in all these years

where a hard subject

somebody reacted and communication

followed

and there was reconciliation or healing

i’ve seen it twice out of

lots of episodes yeah horrible things

and it’s just it’s just not worth it

communication is rough anyway

and when you have it in a text

yeah you know you don’t have facial

expression you don’t have tone of voice

you don’t have body language you don’t

have any of the things that maybe if you

and i were having a hard conversation

and i could see the sincerity in your

eyes it would make listening to a

comment you have to make to me a lot

easier and that’s just relationship text

facebook all that stuff doesn’t happen

you just have people throwing out barbs

that

affirms the people who agree with you

and drives away the people who don’t and

it’s just very very little very little

is accomplished

so i i don’t know i

i try to go into that area less and less

all the time

so occasionally i’ll post something just

to hopefully to make people think

people love cat videos just so yeah

i don’t

i don’t have them really yeah i don’t

have any sense i don’t want to be

posting it i still respect you you still

do

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you probably haven’t seen some of the

cat videos i’ve had the privilege of

seeing them so that could be part of the

reason i that’s true it’s true i can

promise you

all right after this is over i’ll show

you something oh yeah thanks

thanks you