This is “The Three Chairs”. When it comes to your faith, how real is God to you? In this message, Jentezen Franklin reveals that you (and your faith) are sitting in one of three chairs, and you may be surprised to learn it’s time to get up and move. Discover what seat your faith is in and where it needs to be

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if you were truthful about your

relationship with jesus christ

many i’m afraid would describe it as an

acquaintance

not as a living vital

intimate relationship

if you have your bibles i would like for

you to open them with me

to joshua chapter 24 and verse

15. and if it seems evil to you to serve

the lord

choose for yourselves this day

whom you will serve whether the gods

which your father served

that were on the other side of the river

or the gods of the amorites

in whose land you dwell here’s joshua

now but as

for me and my house we

will serve the lord

obviously today there’s some props with

what i’m going to preach there are three

chairs

on the platform there are three chairs

because the three chairs represent the

three kinds of people that are listening

to me

right now at every campus and by

television

there are three kinds of people and

you’re one you’re in one of these

three chairs the first chair this

chair represents people

of commitment they’re fully committed to

jesus christ

they have completely sold out and they

live

to serve and honor the lord jesus christ

they’re committed to the church they’re

committed to the kingdom

they’re committed to the call that is

upon their personal life and upon their

family

they understand that our family has a

call

that god has a plan and purpose for the

entire family

their businesses are committed to the

glory

of god they’re people who are sold out

and because they’re sold out

and so committed at times they find

themselves

being at odds with the values

of this they’re spiritual

in nature the apostle paul said that

there are three kinds of people

in first corinthians two in first

corinthians three

he said there are people who are

spiritual they have a

spiritual nature they see everything

uh through spiritual eyes they they

they understand that there is an unseen

spiritual world that is going on out

there and when they have been awakened

and born again and filled with the holy

spirit

they have a spiritual nature that leads

them and guides them

and they have come under the authority

of that spirit

and then there’s the second chair is

people of compromise people

who who they have been born again

they have given their heart to jesus

christ they go to church

some it’s not really consistent

but they would be glad to tell you that

they’re a christian and they

are and they attend church some

but they live a distant life from the

lord jesus christ if they were to be

totally honest they would say

jesus is more of an acquaintance than he

is a relationship

that i have an acquaintance with him

once

every week or maybe once every two weeks

i’ll go to church i’ll think about him

hear about him but that’s pretty much

it that’s about all that we have the

second chair

is the chair of compromise the first

chair is the chair of commitment the

first chair

is the chair of commitment and it’s the

person in it has spiritual nature

but the second person in the second

chair the chair of compromise

has a carnal nature the apostle paul

said in first corinthians

and then lastly there’s the person in

the third chair

and it’s the seed of the conflict the

people of conflict

they are unsaved they’re unchurched

listen and they’re uninterested in god

the bible said they’re in a natural

state paul uses all three of these

to to describe people spiritual

carnal fleshly worldly and then

natural meaning they’ve only been born

once

they have never been born again they

are unchurched they are unsaved

they’re uninterested in god

they believe there’s a god somewhere out

there

their world view is one of that is

humanistic and

maybe even atheist atheist or or

you know they they don’t have any

feelings or they believe that

all religions lead to heaven and

all religions are the same and all the

gods that people worship it’s all one

and it doesn’t matter what path you take

to get there so i want you to get it now

every person

sitting in this room is sitting in one

of these chairs

the first chair is people who are

dedicated

they’re spiritual they are committed

to god they are committed to the church

the second chair is people who

have been born again and encountered god

they

know the word but they don’t necessarily

want to live the word

so they live a life of compromise

and then there’s people that i’m

preaching to today

that are hearing me that are absolutely

in conflict with the word of god

their lifestyle everything about them is

void

of god that second person

knows the bible but there’s a difference

between the first

chair and the second chair because

they’re not committed to living the

bible

the third chair does not confess to be a

christian

the person in that chair doesn’t walk in

a relationship with god

they’re in a natural state there’s a

spiritual state

a carnal state and a natural state and

you’re in one

of three of these chairs

when i think about these chairs and

every one of you that are hearing me

including myself

i couldn’t help but think of joshua

and how committed he was to the lord the

bible said that joshua

this day stood before the people and he

said i have wholly committed myself to

the lord

he said i have wholly followed after the

lord with all of my heart

i have completely i used to preach a

sermon when i was an evangelist there’s

somewhere in

joshua where he says the bible says of

joshua he left

nothing undone that god told him to do

but then you move over

and he said to the people that day you

choose

who you will follow but as for me and my

house

we’re going to serve the lord and the

next generation looked at him and gave

verbiage yes we will follow the lord

like you but when he died the bible said

they didn’t do what god told them to do

they didn’t drive the enemy out of the

land

they coexisted with the enemy they

intermarried

with the enemy thereby taking on their

gods and their idols

and suddenly they you move from the

first seat of a generation that’s

committed to god

consecrated to god to a second seat of a

generation

that is compromising mixing a little of

this

and that and suddenly you have idols the

bible actually says

that they were serving idols and feared

the lord

and then you move into judges

chapter 2 and this is all the same

family

and it says and there arose another

generation

that knew not god

nor the works of god

they were sitting in the seat of

conflict this can happen to our families

if we’re not careful that’s why it’s so

important that we

set the pace of our family and be

committed to god

and it happened to joshua

they struck a compromise they moved from

commitment to compromise they were

called

god’s people but they were not in a

relationship with him

he was an acquaintance i wonder how many

people

i’m preaching to today i’m not naive i

understand that there’s a battle for our

souls and our minds

and the enemy would love for you to just

sit in this seat the rest of your

christian

experience and compromise

more and more and more but understand

that it affects

generations you see when you understand

what i’m preaching

it will become clear to you that

if you were truthful truthful about your

relationship with jesus christ many i’m

afraid would describe it as an

acquaintance

not as a living vital

intimate relationship

and then i think about this third seed

there’s no god in the house this

describes this generation

they get up on sunday morning and it

never crosses their mind

we should even go to church do you know

how many people will get up today

and sunday is not even considered the

lord’s day

it’s considered cut the grass day or

be good to yourself day or go to the

grocery store

day or god’s nothing to them

and we have a generation that is living

and sitting in the seat

now listen to this these three chairs

speak of how each person in each chair

relates to the world the person sitting

in the first

chair of commitment has a value system

that is at odds many times with the

world

they find themselves feeling almost

different and well no doubt different

and

and and and almost outdated because

you feel at odds with the way the world

talks the filth of the songs the the

uncleanness the

there’s no modesty there’s nothing and

you find yourself

when you’re committed to god many times

at odds with the values of the world

and by the way if you don’t ever feel

this

if you fit in with that

whole nasty world out there and you

never feel at odds

something’s wrong truth and morality

matter to you if you’re in that first

seat

they’re saved they love the lord they’re

committed

the person in the second chair the chair

of compromise

they know the bible but they care their

career is more important

than their calling

and if you talk to them they never talk

about the lord

they never talk about god they talk

about their money

they talk about material things they

talk about going here and doing that

but it’s never really a heart that’s

captured and committed

it’s just compromise they love the lord

but they’re living a compromised carnal

life the person in the third chair

is at odds with god

they fit right in with a culture that

says gay marriage is

right they fit right in

with a culture that says abortion even

in the ninth

month late term abortion they cheer

and they laugh how do we get this way

in a generation and if you’re clear if

you’re scared to

clap i’ll clap for you you pitiful

little

if we can’t speak up for a baby what

have we come to

what have we come to a living

breathing baby in the ninth month

i will not be silent nor will this

church

be silent we must speak up

it’s not a political issue it is a bible

issue

and god’s word is right and i will not

be

in the seat of conflict on this issue

[Applause]

but we have a generation that is and we

have churches

that have moved from commitment to

compromise to little mousy preachers

who sit real quiet and won’t say one

thing when the bible is so clear

proverbs 6

6 things god hates he

that sheds innocent blood

is one of them clap now and i’ll keep

preaching

he loves people who’ve had an abortion

he forgives he cleanses but we must not

ever feel

something in us that can

sit without any conflict

with murder of babies

now watch this when you’re living a life

of commitment

god is your closest friend

you’re in a relationship you serve him

first

the person sitting in this seat serves

him first

and self-second but when you’re sitting

in the second chair you’re living a life

of compromise

you know god as an acquaintance

not in an intimate relationship

it’s a responsibility to go to church

almost a drudgery to go to church

that’s why you don’t do it consistently

i love y’all i dressed up in a suit so

i’d look sweet while i do this

i love you enough to get right in your

face and tell you

the only thing at stake is your family

the only thing at stake is your marriage

the only thing is and when you move into

this seat it’s a dangerous place for a

believer

if you’re sitting in the second seat

what’s going to happen to this guy

he is compromising yes he loves the lord

but

his marriage is okay i wouldn’t call it

it’s kind of like a good working

relationship

but he is susceptible to temptation and

that’s why it’s

dangerous to move from spiritual to

carnal

because all of the sudden when the enemy

comes after your home

if you’re not prayed up if you’re not

seeing through spiritual eyes

whoa whoa whoa wake up wake up i need a

revival in my soul i can’t believe

that i did that i thought that

i entertained that

that’s what’s going to happen and

something begins to bother the person

who’s had an encounter with jesus sooner

or later this person wakes up and they

realize something’s going on with my

kids

i mean the little flicker of fire is

still there it’s not like

it used to be when they were here but

there’s a little godliness in them

little discernment in them something’s

going on with my kids and i’ve noticed

that

that my my kids have more non-christian

friends

than christian friends and i’ve noticed

that i have to drag them

screaming and kicking the church now

that they’re 16 and 17. and oh

you know i i really secretly i suspect

that

that they’re becoming sexually active

that just sense it i feel funny about

that voice she’s with

something’s not right but i i want to

wink i want to look the other way

because i’m carnal and i compromise and

i don’t want to have to confront it i

just

i just let them and i know they came in

from that party and went straight to the

bedroom and i probably ought to go back

and see why their eyes are bloodshot

and get all in their business and but

you know i’m a compromising parent

sometimes you just want peace at any

cost

because i’m carnal now

oh well you know the times we’re living

in

kids will be kids

just have safe sex is this too plain

but when you’re committed

it matters

somebody almost fell out of the seat

right then on that point

just preaching the truth

then there’s that person who’s listening

to me right now

you’re sitting in that seat of conflict

you got to build your career above all

your god is your career

and if she likes her boyfriend she

doesn’t have to marry him

just move in with him what difference

does it make

marriage is just a piece of paper

what difference does it make you’re

living in conflict

with the word of god

she thinks about having children someday

but

i want intellectual kids i want popular

kids

i want cheerleading beta club

nothing wrong with those things but is

that the

highest thing that it never crosses this

person’s mind

i want my kids in church i want my

family

raised in the fear of the lord it never

crosses this person’s

mind to get up and go to church

it’s there now the question

that i want to propose to you in closing

this morning is simply this

parents of the first chair

percentage-wise we’ll have a mass

majority of children

voluntarily serve the lord

chill parents of the second chair

will almost always have a majority of

children who will not follow the lord

and of course there’s not much hope

barring a miracle of god

for the third chair parents

if you’re sitting in this seat and i

sense many are

wouldn’t you like to move from this seat

to that seat

joshua said i’m going to tell you what

to do about it

choose you this day

who you will serve

and if you’re not going to sit in that

seat for yourself

sit in it for your children sit in it

for your grandchildren

you say you love them but if you’re not

giving them jesus

all the money in the world won’t be

enough for them

you must give them jesus

[Music]

my word to you today is simple

strive for that number one chair

not just for you but for your children

and your children’s children

where are you leading your family

as i described that second chair this

morning many of you felt pricked in your

heart

because if you were to be totally honest

this morning you would say jesus is an

acquaintance

he’s not really a intimate relationship

partner of my life

i talk to him all the time

he talks to me a lot

i worship in my car

he’s in my house he’s in my life he’s

he’s he’s a part of my thought process

he’s number one

i got to get in that first chair

god’s calling us all out of the second

chair

and the third chair and those of you who

are lost and

indifferent and far from god you haven’t

gone so far

that jesus cannot reach you but you must

choose this day

who you will serve some of you young

people must choose

this day which seat you’re going to sit

in

because god’s plan for your life will

not allow you to capture it if you’re

sitting in this seat

it’s going to require total commitment

and this is the day i love what he said

choose you

this day i put it plain

because i’m preaching to dying people

who are headed for eternity

and you better know what seats you’re in

here and now

choose you this day i love what joshua

said he said

i can’t i can’t decide for you but i can

for me as

for me it starts with me i’m getting my

rear end out of this chair

and i’m moving it over the as for me

and then he makes a powerful statement

as for me and my house

we will serve the lord now this guy

hears his attitude

as for me and my house we tried

and it’s not up to god it’s up to you

choose

choose life

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