What Christians Get Wrong About the 2024 Election
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we are on the verge of another election
we are a nation on the threshold of
either Revival or ruin if we want to see
a unified and better world how do we
fight for that without fighting someone
else I’m going just say this 2020 was
triggering for me it was awful you can’t
be conservative to the neglect of being
a Christian and you can’t be Progressive
to the neglect of being a Christian you
are first and foremost a Christ follower
so I want to ask you is it important
that we still have a voice within our
nation in voting I’m not going to tell
you how to vote but I am going to talk
to you
about okay I am uh I’m in a little bit
of angst right now we are on the verge
of another election a big election and
uh I’m going to say this 2020 was
triggering for me it was it was awful so
many people with so much anger and so
many opinions and I feel like we’re
escalating we’re going up to that place
again and so I’m not going to tell you
how to vote but I am going to talk to
you about how you should behave we need
to stop being ugly and hateful
Christians whenever it gets to an
election time we need to act like the
elect instead of acting like we only
care about election return turns this is
a crazy crazy time Christian I remember
after the 2020
election I had posted a quote by Abraham
Lincoln I was like I feel like Abraham
Lincoln is safe I feel like I feel like
I can go with Abe and it said we are not
enemies we are friends and I thought I
think everybody needs to remember we all
go to the same country a lot of us call
ourselves Christians I’m figuring my
people they that they’re not going to
hang around if they’re not Christians
and I said come on come on we need to
stop polarizing we got to stop saying oh
if you voted you voted that way you’re a
white supremist who endorses violence or
if you voted the other way you’re a
Marxist baby killer I said we are
Americans we’re Americans and we have
the privilege of voting we should not be
attacking one another causing division
we need to actually give people margin
to not feel like they can stick their
heels in the ground and fight for their
whatever moment but we need to move
forward as Kingdom people I believe in
voting I believe it’s a privilege and as
long as we have the right and the
privilege to vote we should vote and I
believe that we should vote according to
scripture according to the what what we
see as Christians outlined but what I am
concerned about is the hateful behavior
of Christians during the election the
demonizing of everybody that they think
disagrees with them I’m just going to
ask you right off the bat how do you
form your opinions whether they’re well
informed they’re biblically informed how
do you form those without getting into
this place of division that we’re seeing
so commonly yeah well I mean I think
that all of us need to vote platform not
personality I’m I’m I may get in trouble
for this I don’t trust the media I don’t
trust the media so we need to do a
little bit of Our Own due diligence and
here’s the other thing see when I was
growing up there was something called
voting booth you got to go into a Bo
booth and vote nobody knew what you put
on there it was between you and your pen
you put it in and you had the right to
privacy and right now people are
publicly arguing with one another rather
than actually persuading like we need to
be able to talk about things in ways
that are civilized I am so tired of the
name calling I am so tired of the
slandering and as Christians as
Christians we need to call each other up
not out and I’m just seeing so many
people uh saying oh that part of the
body of Christ they’re not even really
Christians only we’re the real
Christians over there they’re not really
Christians only we’re the real
Christians and the truth is when we have
pride and strife rampant in the body of
Christ when we have then we’ll have
Division and chaos and every evil work
even if we think we’re doing right we
will end up with the wrong result and
you’re saying this across the board I’m
saying this across the board both
parties believing and unbelieving we’ve
made a mess how would you begin to
unwind that like what should we be doing
to unmake the division create Unity
without compromising because I know we
also say truth in love yeah your
principles yeah you know and and I
believe that we don’t have to go to the
RNC or the DNC to get our opinions I
believe we need to know the platform we
need to say what we need to be informed
and we need to say now if I’m informed
on what this party stands for how does
that agree or disagree with scripture
and and so that is at the end of the day
it’s not the word of a politician
it’s the word of God like what to say
and then you don’t have to prove your
point to everybody else you know you and
John and I are big Believers and you
preach the truth and the truth exposes
lies you don’t attack people you attack
lies and so when we when we have a
culture of sound bites and lies we
become a culture that just Echo sound
bites and lies and we need to be people
who understand the word of God and when
it comes to politics politics oh my gosh
we need to hit our knees and stop
throwing stones we need to cry out for
God to heal our nation we need to be
involved in that healing but we need to
stop thinking that the anybody that
looks different thinks different than us
is a problem we are a nation on the
threshold of either Revival or ruin as
far as I’m concerned there’s there’s
never been a clear path where we need to
seek God because we have so much sin in
our nation that if we do not seek God we
are not going to be able to rightly
divide anything we’re just going to be
divided and that’s where we are right
now we are houses divided we are people
divided we are divided by things that
should never divide us and we need to be
a people where we stand in the middle
and declare truth even if it means we
get shot at by both sides and and I
remember I remember getting shot at from
both sides I remember when I posted the
Abraham Lincoln quote and said hey don’t
allow the media to say you have to hate
each other don’t allow the media to
divide immediately I had half my group
say I can’t believe you voted for Biden
I’m unfollowing you then the other half
said I can’t believe you voted for Trump
I’m unfollowing you I didn’t say
anything I said do not allow a spirit of
division to split this nation because
that ruling demonic
Dragon I mean we’re in the year of the
dragon dragons create chaos chaos works
best in confusion and Division and so
that’s really what I want to speak to is
we do not want to partner with the
dragons dream of chaos division
destruction violence discouragement
hopelessness we do not want to do that
and at the end of the day at the end of
the day it is not our source is not one
presidential candidate the other our
source is God and and you know I I’m
having I’m having a hard time saying
this the same way as I used to say how I
said it
before it’s not one party or the other
it’s Kingdom and we need to be people
that say what aligns with the kingdom
what aligns with the kingdom because
there’s bad things about both parties
there’s bad things about both the
politicians but there’s nothing bad with
the kingdom and so when we are Kingdom
driven people we will vote according to
Kingdom principles which should give you
a clear path forward I don’t have to
tell you goodness gracious you should be
able to monitor your self-control and
not get involved in contentions online
you know we’ve lost the art of
conversation you know it used like
there’s people that that will disagree
with me and they will just attack me
then I have people that disagree with me
and you know what they do they text me
and they’re like hey I just I just kind
of want to I want to put this on your on
your radar and you know what I
appreciate the fact that they respect me
enough to reach out because they believe
I’m reasonable and I want you to be
reasonable people I want you to be led
by the spirit and reasonable people you
do not have the right to hate people
that disagree with you
I don’t you will never have the right to
use violence you will never have the
right to uh cut off half the body of
Christ because you think less of them or
or whatever and so we have a culture
that is screaming left and right and we
cannot choose left or right we have to
choose rightly related with Jesus and he
does inform our
decisions yeah I’m going be honest with
you I remember remember when I first got
to the voting age I just had no interest
in being part of it because I would see
all the commercials of like I’m so and
so and I endorse this message the other
party is terrible you should vote for me
and I was like this just feels like high
school gossip and that was even years
ago with different candidates so that’s
not even pointing to a party but it just
felt so messy to me it is messy I
thought I don’t even know how to get
involved with this now that I have
children I see the urgency and I’m like
well I can’t ignore this I have to to be
proactive but it still feels just so
misaligned I’m like I just want to know
what the meat of the matter is so I want
to ask you anyone else that feels that
same way of goodness Lisa there is so
much Division I don’t even want to voice
anything I don’t want to have these
conversations is it important that we
still have a voice within our nation in
voting absolutely I mean being uh
proactive rather than problematic is
going to be the solution going forward
we need to be a people that say I’m I’m
going to I’m going to form my decisions
off the word of God those will be my
convictions but that doesn’t mean that I
can’t have respectful conversations with
other people matter of fact you know
when I feel uh
respected I feel heard even if even if I
disagree and what we’re having is right
now we have so many people that are so
Hardline on their side that they are
actually making it difficult and and I
hope you hear me you can’t you can’t be
conservative to the neglect of being a
Christian and you can’t be Progressive
to the neglect of being a Christian you
are not first and foremost Progressive
or conservative you are first and
foremost a Christ follower and you have
to live like a Christ follower and you
can’t hate anyone you don’t get to hate
people you don’t get to attack people
you don’t get to slander people you
don’t get to listen to gossip mongering
we need to step back and recover some
sensibility and and not you know be like
who you vot who you for who you for you
know here’s the thing the enemy always
chooses sides but God says all right
who’s on my side like I I love the
dynamic of when Moses comes down there
has been like all this chaos they’re
like hey Moses you’re taking too much on
yourself you know listen we all holy
we’re all holy you’re not you don’t get
to be the big leader we’re all holy God
talks to us we don’t need chorus
rebellion and Moses isn’t like who’s on
kora’s side he didn’t do that he said
who’s on the Lord’s Side and that’s what
we need to ask a question and I’m not
talking about politician I’m talking
about you are you going to be on one
side or the other are you going to be on
the Lord’s Side when Joshua after 40
Years of wandering in the desert being
lied to having snakes killing off your
parents all the different plagues going
on he’s finally
on the edge of the promised land and he
sees a warrior and he’s like okay I
gotta figure out who this guy is because
I don’t know who he is he’s like who
side are you on and he says I’m not on
anybody’s side I am the captain of the
army of the Lord of hosts take off your
shoes this is Holy Ground we have a
privilege to vote but we do not have the
right to be mean or hateful or uh
divisive we need to be people who vote
in a way
that honors Our God commitment but we
need to honor the people that we see and
not alienate half the nation because I I
just don’t want to see our nation split
again the
division is so it is so epidemic right
now and this has been something that the
enemy has worked on for so long and so
hard Christian ever since 2020
vaccinated not vaccinated you know male
female just what it’s constant Division
division division and we we exercise our
rights to vote but we also exercise
self-control and kindness hey I am so
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kindness of God that leads us to
repentance not the anger it I mean and
again going back the wrath of man or
woman never works the righteous purposes
of God and I’m seeing a lot of ministers
get really worked up and say if you’re
not like me then you’re like them and
that is very much a binary Choice well
maybe those people want to hear them we
do not want to we do not want to push
people away by labeling them it’s it was
so crazy when I wrote without rival it
says depersonalizing everyone into a
rival we cannot depersonalize we cannot
label we cannot shame we need to be more
united than ever before as followers of
Jesus Christ and prayer for our nation
period not praying against not praying
we need to pray God’s will for our
nation so what I’m hearing you say is
one listening to this is to have your
convictions formed from the word stand
with those but not to try to bring
everyone to your side or dig your heels
in the sand because I’ve seen I mean
we’ve all seen the debates online we’ve
seen the debates in person the videos
and I just don’t feel like we’re
actually getting any of the intended
desires that we thought we would get
from any of those so what do you think
Jesus would do if he was a person like
you and me voting in this election what
would he do in this time well first of
all I think that Jesus had the
Revelation that he belonged to another
kingdom now I don’t think the Jews got
to vote under Roman rule I think the
Romans were a little bit the oppressors
there but he seemed to have the
awareness that you Render unto Caesar
what is Caesar’s which is our right to
vote and you Render unto God what is
God’s and we get we get weird when we
blur the two when we expect God to deal
with Caesar or Caesar to deal with God
we need to render to Caesar with a
Caesar to God with is gods and and for
all of us that means I mean I we’re
going to vote we’re going to vote it’s
important it’s that we vote but it’s
also important that we pray pray and act
and I I do think people are thinking
right now it doesn’t matter elections
are rigged it doesn’t matter which way I
vote my vote won’t count that is what
the enemy wants you to believe he wants
to intimidate you into
inaction so here’s the way I look at it
if I do my thing if I vote I pray I vote
I do my civic duty if they are corrupt
with it I did my duty and I my hands are
clean that’s how I see it Christian I
did my duty my hands are clean it’s like
the Barabas in Jesus you know what I did
what I did okay I want to ask you this
when we look at First Corinthians 1:0
this is what’s interesting to me and I
want to ask you if maybe you can sh some
clarity on it it saysi appeal to you
brothers and sisters in the name of our
Lord Jesus Christ that all of you agree
with one another in what you say and
that there be no divisions among you but
that you per be perfectly United in mind
and thought so we don’t want
disunity but if we want to see a unified
and better world how do we fight for
that without fighting someone else do
you get what I’m saying yes yeah and
that’s that’s the tricky part isn’t it I
mean my husband and I can be United that
doesn’t mean we’re same I think we can
be United in purpose I think that all
the Christians can say I’m going to
believe that our nation that was founded
as one nation under God will actually
live up to the one nation under God I’m
going to believe that our nation we’ll
have leaders that will rule with truth
and Justice that our leaders will be
surrounded with people that will give
them wise counselor and stewardship that
we’re going to pray and this one I will
get political on that we will pray for
the Peace of Jerusalem that we will pray
for a Revival in Israel that there will
be a settling and peace in Israel pretty
much all of the civilization of the
world has come through the Middle East
we need to pray for peace in the Middle
East period We Don’t Pray for Peace for
just this group or just that group we
pray for peace but God says that we are
specifically to pray for the Peace of
jerus Jerusalem so we’re believing that
the king of peace peace Salem means
peace the king of Peace will reign in
the Middle East and over our nation do
we believe that the spirit of God will
be honored in every area and that
everything that is wicked would be
exposed that God is the one who will
separate the precious from the vile that
everything that can be shaken will be
shaken I believe that we’re in that
season right now in the church that God
is like I’m going to shake these things
I’m going to shake these things that the
rotten fruit falls off and the ripe
fruit Falls God is shaking our nation
and things are getting revealed left and
right and we don’t want to stabilize
what God is shaking we need to let the
shaking happen but we ourselves need to
stop being part of the accusation let
God do the shaking and then we do our
part It’s said that we’re supposed to
pray for our leaders pray for our
leaders not just the leaders that we
elected we pray for all of our leaders
that we can live Godly and peaceful
lives peaceful I don’t I think that’s a
word peaceful lives anyway that we can
live Godly and peaceful lives prayer is
not a weak thing prayer is a privilege
prayer is an honor prayer is a strategy
prayer is a release of God’s kingdom
into the kingdom of this world when I
pray thy kingdom come thy will be done
on Earth as it is in heaven I am
including every nation in the world and
specifically America so we need to pray
and we need to pray not like a scared
prayers like I’m so scared it’s going to
be so bad I hope so and so or this and
that we need to pray thy kingdom come
thy will be done on Earth as it is in
heaven God may heaven and earth align
with your purpose and your will right
now and I’m not going to curse those
that are made in your image I’m not not
going to mock but I will Mark I will say
this one is standing for this and this
one is standing for that and there’s a
Clarity so we can we can mark but we
cannot mock God does not want us mocking
our brothers and sisters God is okay
with us marking like hey hey this is
this is this is concerning but not
mocking and at the end of the day
they’re not my servants they’re God
servants if they’re ministers and I feel
like they’re not doing what they should
do that’s between them and God but I
will continue to I will continue to
preach the
truth I love that and I think it’s worth
mentioning the Romans 12:18 so if
everything I can do to live at peace it
doesn’t means as much as it’s in your
power yes I think it’s a big difference
between peac maker and Peacekeeper like
so we want to be active but I know your
hope is that we walk away more unified
more celebratory more in line with what
God even wants to do in our nation how
would you help
someone know like a gut check of hey
maybe you know maybe you have been so
passionate about this topic it has
gotten a little divisive or you have
felt like you had to just go out and say
this what’s Your Gut check for this is
how to be aligned this is how to be in
this vein of unity but still passionate
I think I think it’s always easier to
choose sides so I think if we can step
back maybe have a pen and paper instead
of our phone and say um what is God
honoring and what is God dishonoring
what has what is the right of um
governance uh what what is our nation
like what are the tenants of our nation
the honored God that need to be upheld
and what are the things that need to
maybe be shifted I don’t know you know
I’m going to say very clearly I have
been very clear there is two things that
are very important to me and that is the
image of God and that is the sanctity of
life and so those are things that if I
see those compromised or not
accommodated those are going to be very
big issues for me but you can’t make
every issue a big issue and everything
contention and everybody is someone
you’re arguing with but I can have
conversations with people that I say hey
you may you know you may you may think
no my big issue on how I vote is this so
I’m not going to be like no that’s the
wrong issue it needs to be my issue so
we need to say what is god-honoring
and strife is never God honoring Strife
is never godon so if we’ve gotten caught
up in all the narratives all the
arguments of this or arguments of that
we need to stand in the middle God what
are you saying how can how can your
spirit and your will and your ways be
more celebrated in our nation I’m going
to go that way in my vote but even more
so even more so then in my vote I’m
going to go that way with my life I’m
I’m not going to attack accuse blame
slander I’m not going to partner with
the dragon and be divisive I’m going to
partner with God and believe that God
can actually do something in our nation
and he can turn the heart of the king
and his because that heart is in his
hand he can turn it whatever way he
wants I was just about to ask you I mean
I love the wisdom that you share
obviously you’ve seen many things within
politics over the last few years is
there a story that sticks out of for
someone that’s like well Lisa if I don’t
say this nothing is going to change is
there a story where you saw the king’s
heart change I mean the Jesus movement
the all that time I was kind of
oblivious I think I was like eight
during the Jesus movement no I’ve seen
to be honest with you I
saw I saw our
nation
slide I saw
distrust in the in the mid 70s and then
I
saw hope come back into our nation and I
I feel like where we are right now we’ve
been before which actually gives me hope
that that while we all like people just
like I don’t trust anybody I don’t you
know my voice my I don’t trust them my
vot my vote doesn’t count government’s
all what whatever the narrative is in
their head I feel like in this season of
hopelessness when men have failed and
when people have failed us and
government has failed us we lift our
eyes and then God begins to move in a in
a a new way and so I am believing for a
new day for our nation and
um that that’s a new day is very
different than just a new leader I was
thinking how Jesus talks to people and
when Jesus is like Gathering everybody
for the last days and judgment or
whatever and he’s he’s got the Wedding
Banquet and he’s like see somebody come
in without His Garment on he’s like hey
friend Hey where’s your garment and he’s
like uh I don’t have one I and he’s like
bind him hand and foot toss him out but
he he opens up with friendship and we
need to open up
conversations and hearts with friendship
we need to open up with conversation not
just throwing our ideas out there first
I remember that when John and I were in
a season of contention I was like he is
not listening I’ll just say it louder
I’ll just say it with some threats I’ll
call a friend and get their opinion have
their opinion to it and I’m just going
to layer all this and God was like Lisa
if you want John to hear you say it the
way you’d want to hear it it’s not
complicated do you like being called
names do you like being labeled do you
like being yelled at no nobody does we
need to speak to people and we need to
talk to them the way we’d want them to
speak and talk to us we need to believe
the best first not last we need to call
them friend even if they’re acting like
an enemy and we need to create
conversations that are courageous and
necessary if we are going to move the
needle forward in our our communities
and in our country because at the end of
the day I’m not even sure what the
politicians do but I am aware of my
neighbors and my family and my friends
and if we do not have healthy strong
families and communities where we
respect each other irregardless of our
disagreements on things we’re going to
have greater problems than we could ever
have imagined okay so this one’s for my
leaders these are from my Christian
leaders my influencers my influencers um
here’s the here’s the challenge of our
day and I know it’s
challenging we need to be clear we need
to give Clarion calls but we can’t be
cruel we can’t name calls
we can’t attack we can’t isolate we
can’t slander we need to be compelling I
think about Paul speaking in the book of
Acts to King theopolis where he was like
come on I’m going to tell you I’m going
to tell you what I know what I’ve seen
what I believe and I remember he did it
in such a Winsome compelling way that
King theopolis said Paul you have almost
convinced me we need to be people who
are convincing and constructive not
critics and callous this is not the time
for us to be
mean-spirited we need to be clear we
need to be holy spirit-led I I don’t I
don’t think there needs to be confusion
around things but alienation is not
going to help us preach the word of God
be bold share your convictions and I do
think that you can share your
convictions from the pulpit separation
of church and state was about protecting
the church from the state not the state
from the church do not allow
intimidation to cause you to shrink back
or shut up but don’t be mean spirited
there’s absolutely no excuse for that
well we hope that today’s episode gave
you some type of parameters and honestly
some type of Hope for this coming
election and we do hope that you would
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