What does the Bible say about spiritual gifts and the leadership of the Holy Spirit in our lives? Joyce Meyer and Ginger Stache talk candidly about the supernatural on this episode of Enjoying Everyday Life.

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when you’re born again you receive the

holy spirit

you can’t you know you’re baptized into

the body of christ

by the holy spirit you can’t receive

jesus and not receive the holy spirit

because

they’re all one one god

three persons and um which is

supernatural and it’s

yeah but yeah you can’t figure that one

out and so

um supernatural i think just basically

means it’s things beyond what a natural

person

could do

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ginger and i will candidly talk about

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joyce there is some sort of i

need or interest in people about the

supernatural yeah

so i would love for us to talk today

about the supernatural

is that something that you had an

interest in at any point in your life

well i think that i was hungry

for the supernatural i don’t know that

we always know what it is that we’re

hungry for

and supernatural doesn’t mean weird

spooky

you’re not talking about fortune tellers

and

things like that god does

things that are beyond the natural yeah

what i call it is super

dash natural well let me ask you about

that though because

yes that that’s who god is

but sometimes that interest takes people

to that other side of what you’re

talking about well yeah i was

because i was hungry for the

supernatural for

to see some of the things that we see

jesus did

in the new testament you know the

healings the

casting out of demons the the things

that

that paul talked about yeah speaking in

tongues

the just the miracles that they saw

and you know you hear all kinds of

things well that went away with the

early church and

you know it’s amazing the things that we

believe without even checking them out

for ourselves but

because i was hungry and i wasn’t

getting what i needed

from the church the enemy stepped in and

tried to bring some deception into my

life i was working

with a girl that was very much into

astrology not astronomy the study of the

stars but

charting her life by the stars

and i know there are a lot of people

yeah a lot of people are that do that

but it’s against the word of god there’s

nowhere in the bible that it tells us to

plan our future based on the stars i

mean god wants us to come to him for

advice

not yeah not the stars and uh

but i mean she just lived her whole life

by that i mean she didn’t even get a

haircut unless the stars lined up

and so she wanted to

do my astrology chart which i didn’t

even

know what that meant but i was starting

to get interested

when thankfully god interrupted the

enemy’s plan

and he touched my life and this was back

in the 70s there was a

great outpouring a revival type

outpouring of the holy spirit

all across the earth not just one

denomination but

it couldn’t be denied because it was

everywhere and people were being

touched by god filled with the spirit

baptized in the holy spirit however you

want to put it different people

talk about it in different ways i always

my my thought is is that when you’re

born again you receive

the holy spirit you can’t you know

you’re baptized into the body of christ

by the holy spirit you can’t receive

jesus and not receive the holy spirit

because

they’re all one one god

three persons yeah and um which is

supernatural in itself yeah but yeah you

can’t figure that one out and so

um supernatural i think just basically

means it’s things beyond what a natural

person

could do yeah and um

we were just we were so hungry

for those things and god touched my life

whether you want to say he filled me or

baptized me but i think that we receive

the holy spirit or we’re baptized in the

spirit

when we’re born again but that doesn’t

necessarily mean that you’re filled with

something

and the way that i like to say it is you

can have the holy spirit but does he

have you

and so i’d like to read this scripture

god brought this to my mind this morning

and i had them printed out for me romans

12

1 in the amplified i appeal to you

therefore brethren

and i beg of you in view of all the

mercies of

god to make a decisive dedication of

your bodies

now that’s something i have to do i have

to make

a decision that i’m going to dedicate

everything about me to god not just

45 minutes or an hour on sunday morning

or not just praying a desperate prayer

when i need help

but that i’m going to live for

jesus and for his glory

and so i just have to get bold enough to

say

to our viewers are you doing that

is jesus a sideline in your life or is

he the main line

in your life paul said for me to live is

christ

to die is gain and in him i live and

move and have

my being and so i wonder sometimes

in the church world today if

people are being taught strong enough

messages about dedication and

surrendering your life to god and living

for him and

using your will to choose his will and

not just always trying to get god to do

what you want

but i love the amplified because it

breaks it down it says presenting

all your members and faculties so what

is that

my mind my mouth my thoughts

my attitude my finances my talents

whatever any area of my life that i’m

holding back

from god is one that the holy spirit

can’t fill

and so um i was just actually reading a

book i

am in the middle of reading a book by

billy graham and

i’m actually reading several books right

now not all at the same time but i have

several books

on the holy spirit i just i i feel like

we need a fresh

outpouring of the holy spirit and

i want to stay as full of the spirit as

i can and

and yeah for my anointing on my life to

be as strong as it possibly can be

and so i think that to study in the area

that you want help in

is very wise but billy graham said that

you know he believes that you’re

baptized by the spirit when you’re born

again into the body of christ

but that there are fillings and many

fillings

because the bible says to stay filled

with the holy spirit and there were many

times

even after the day of pentecost when the

holy spirit fell on

the 120 that waited in the upper room

when when they would be

filled with the holy spirit you know

back in the old testament the holy

spirit would come on people

for certain tasks or

jobs that god gave them to do but he

didn’t live in them

my gosh we’ve got it so much better

because jesus said

you’re going to be better when i go away

because if i don’t then the holy spirit

can’t come

and he has been with you but he will be

in you

so the holy spirit

which is already supernatural how do you

think about that

lives in us and how do you how do you

even

how do you work that out in your head

right you know yeah but

god’s spirit dwells in us and we are

amazing our greatest goals should be to

be led

and guided by the holy spirit

god’s not calling us to run our own

lives yes we have free choice

he doesn’t want a bunch of robots that

have no choice but to do what he wants

but he wants us to surrender our will

and to do what we know we should do not

be saying well i know i shouldn’t do

this but

and how many times do we say that well i

know i shouldn’t do this but

i know i shouldn’t probably see this

movie but i know i shouldn’t eat this

but

i know i should exercise but you know

and the holy spirit helps us with all

right i know i should apologize but well

if you’re

following the holy spirit then you’re

not going to do

what you want to do because you’ve

already dedicated all these parts

of yourself to him yeah and

that’s when life can really really

really get good and it goes on to say

be devoted and consecrated and live a

life that’s well pleasing to god

which is your reasonable rational

intelligent service and spiritual

worship

so he’s saying it’s not unreasonable

for me to ask you to dedicate every

single

part of yourself in your life to me now

gee we could stop right there and just

have a ten part series

because how many people right now i mean

is your entertainment devoted to god

are your friendships devoted to god

is your conversation devoted to god

are you know are your thoughts

devoted to god how quick do we obey god

when we know he’s asking us to do

something

or do we need 25 confirmations and

you know other things and paul talks

about

the gifts of the spirit there are

supernatural gifts

of the spirit that are available to us

and the bible even tells us to covet

them

and covet is a strong word that almost

means like to lust after

i mean he wants us to really want

these supernatural endowments of power

which is what it is

who wouldn’t want that you know i want

to be filled with the spirit

because that enables me to do

what i do with ease my goodness i

couldn’t imagine trying to do

what we’re doing and i know people

probably don’t

understand this but when we get on here

to do stuff like this

i don’t know ahead of time i mean i know

what we’re going to talk about

but i don’t have a plan i don’t have a

message put together i’m trusting god

to supernaturally bring out of me the

right answers

and to bring out of me what people that

are watching

need right well i don’t know who’s

watching but god does yeah

and he can answer questions for them

that i wouldn’t even

know how to answer so we need to be

filled and and refilled i always say the

world can suck everything out of you in

one day

so i think even to pray every morning

god fill me with your spirit

fill me i want to be full completely

full

of the holy spirit so maybe there are

people watching that have never asked

god to fill them with the spirit

and i suggest that you start there and

then ask

god to give you and to use you

in the supernatural gifts of the holy

spirit and

there’s many gifts teaching is a gift

organization is a gift

business is a gift giving is a gift

there’s a lot of different kinds of

gifts

but paul talks about what i would call

some of these more

supernatural gifts and he says to each

one

so that means everyone is given

the manifestation of the spirit for the

common good

so they’re for the good and the prophet

of all

they’re not to show out or to say look

what i can do

but they’re for the good of all and i

don’t think the gifts of the spirit are

given just so somebody can

show out the church service i think that

you know obviously the gifts can

function in a church service

but i think that they’re more for our

everyday

ordinary life so this natural life

becomes a super

natural life to one is given

through the spirit the utterance of

wisdom are a word of wisdom

to another a word of knowledge by the

same spirit it’s one spirit

but he functions in different ways so

let’s talk about a word of knowledge i

believe that i have that functioning in

my life

all the time and i’m sure you’ve

experienced this i can’t

i’ve misplaced something i don’t know

where it’s at and i’m

frantically trying to find it in the

house well i’ve learned now to stop and

say holy spirit would you show me where

that’s at yeah

and i can’t even tell you how many times

i’ll get like a picture

in my mind of where that thing is me too

and go and it’s right there yeah or our

word of wisdom

knowing what you should do in a

situation

when there’s no real natural you don’t

have any natural

information but you just know what god

wants you to do

and so that knowing is a supernatural

gift from god and that’s

most of the time how god speaks to us

through just knowing

to another faith by the same spirit to

another gifts of healing

well what is this gift of faith we all

have faith to every man is given a

measure of faith

the bible says so what then is the gift

of faith

well that’s to have faith beyond reason

faith that you wouldn’t ordinarily be

able to have

a supernatural faith yeah a supernatural

faith i never really got it until a

friend of mine one time

we were talking about the ministry and

uh i mean this thing that god

has done through us it’s totally

impossible

in the natural i mean i don’t even know

how to tell people how impossible it is

you know i had no training to do this no

schooling to do this

i’ve never taken one class in public

speaking

i didn’t even do that good in english

when i was in school

and yet i’m speaking to people all over

the world through television and all

these other different

things every day and we didn’t have

a lot of training and leadership or our

management

and yet we have almost 500 people

working for us and

several different foreign offices and

it’s god

see when you open yourself up to god he

can flow through

you and enable you to do things that you

couldn’t ordinarily do

and of course the amount of money that

we need to

run the ministry is just it’s beyond my

thinking

i don’t i don’t even really get into it

because it would scare me silly

and a friend of mine who’s also a

minister said to me one day don’t you

realize

that god has given you a gift of faith

for this ministry because i look back

and i think

how did i have the courage

yeah to step out and even think

that i could do this there there would

have been no reason at all for me to

think that i could do something

like this i mean back when i started not

that many women even

right taught the word or preached and it

wasn’t very popular

and i had to pay the price for a lot of

the decisions that i

made like being asked to leave my church

and losing friends and different things

like that

so sometimes when it’s so

easy for you to believe something and it

seems so hard for somebody else

maybe instead of getting a prideful

spirit thinking well i don’t know why

you know you need to realize that maybe

you’re functioning under a gift of faith

yeah and instead of judging other people

you need to pray for them and uh to

another the working of miracles to

another prophecy and and prophecy

is not normally in the new testament for

telling the future

so much as it is encouragement

and encouraging words for people or you

might get a sensing of what somebody’s

going to do in their future

but i always caution people to be

careful about saying

god told me to tell you i think

that’s an area where people can can get

hurt

and that’s where all of this comes into

balance yeah epic and that’s one of the

reasons why people are afraid of the

supernatural right

because they’ve seen excesses i heard

one man say one time back in the

revival in the 70s he said well i’d

rather have a little wildfire than no

fire at all

and and we need it we need a balance we

need

a move of the spirit in our churches

a supernatural move the spirit but we

also need the steadiness the stableness

of the word of god yeah

and here again this is where you get in

trouble you either

don’t have the spirit and everything’s

dry or you have the spirit and ignore

the word and then it just gets out of

balance

and out of hand and so balance is so

important

um the ability to distinguish between

good and evil spirits the discerning of

spirits

if you’re functioning with that gift

you’ll know if somebody

is evil or if they’re good or if they

have an evil intent

or if it’s somebody you need to be

careful of because they’re dangerous

and how many times even like in hiring

people have i looked at an application

that i mean i don’t do this anymore but

in the beginning

and the person looks perfect on paper

and yet i just don’t feel

right about them and you know like most

people you think well

that’s that’s got to just be me maybe

there’s something about this person i

just don’t like

you know because they’ve got all the

qualifications they’ve got the

experience they’ve

on and on and on but invariably if i’ve

done that

then eventually that person ended up

causing trouble

and i should have listened to the

leadership of the holy spirit

and then there’s tongues and

interpretation of tongues

and it’s interesting that that one gift

although it’s the last one on the list

and that doesn’t mean that it’s

the least worthwhile but the church has

fought over that

right more than any of the other gifts

yeah

and we just need understanding and we

need

teaching and i believe that we all

really

need and want the supernatural

and the best thing i can tell you is to

study

first of all read what the word of god

says about it

you know people just like oh man you

know those people that speak in tongues

they’re weird and i’m not you know

stay away from them and yet the apostle

paul said

i wish that you all spoke in tongues and

he said

i thank god that i speak in tongues more

than all of you do

not not everybody receives the same

gifts and we acknowledge that

but don’t be afraid of the gifts of the

spirit and

so i don’t want to leave you like i kind

of feel like with the amount of time we

have that i’ve just kind of opened up

this big thing

but here’s the thing i want people to

start praying

that god will teach them and lead them

in this area that god will use you in

the gifts of the spirit

and give those gifts to you so your

natural life can become

super natural and when you get sick

don’t just run first for the medicine

pray

pray that god will heal you and he may

do it supernaturally

or he may do it through medicine i

believe that all

healing comes from god yeah and so today

you’ve got to be careful even by what

kind of medicine you take or

or you know what kind of medical advice

that you seek because not everything is

good so even in that we need discernment

we need those words of wisdom and words

of knowledge and

the way these things begin to function

in our life is through

making them a matter of prayer and

through desiring them

instead of just ignoring them

and we do have a couple of

resources available if people want to

call and ask what they are i wrote a

book

quite a while ago on intimacy with god

and i talk about all the fruit of the

spirit in there and i also talk about

the gifts of the spirit

and then we’ve got a little book about

being baptized in the holy spirit

and begin to pray that god will fill you

with his spirit don’t be satisfied to

just

try to make it on your own but ask

for and receive that fullness of the

holy spirit but just remember

in order for god to fill something it’s

got to be empty

get yourself out of the way so we have

to be empty of self

in order for god to do the filling so

so the supernatural it seems like it’s

something that people either

crave and run to or are very afraid of

and we we need to seek god’s word and

seek his

face yeah in all of this that balance

is something that we can only find in

christ right we we can’t do it on our

own it’s that emptying ourself out so

that he can fill us up

and don’t be in a big hurry and be

careful

when you start praying for supernatural

things the devil would love to

oh yeah show you a few tricks show you a

few tricks and so you got to make

you know pray that the holy spirit will

will really guide you and let you know

what is what is right and what isn’t but

i just believe if you’re really hungry

for more of god

and you start telling him that and you

start praying to learn in these areas

and

look up all the scriptures read the book

of acts

i mean what happened to the book of acts

i mean do we really think

that we don’t need as much power as they

needed

i mean our world is in a mess today i

mean a huge mess

and we need all the supernatural divine

help

that we can possibly get because nobody

the problems we have today are not going

to be fixed by the government they’re

only going to be fixed

by god and us turning to god and making

right decisions and doing

you know the things that we need to do

boy that’s so true

thank you let’s all be hungry for more

of god

and less of ourselves

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well i hope you enjoyed the program

today and i hope it’s made you

hungry to know more about the holy

spirit

i want to pray for every one of you

right now father we want to thank you

for the holy spirit what a wonderful

gift what a privilege to have him living

on the inside of us

as your children and i pray lord that

you would

teach everyone about the holy spirit

that you would lead them to the right

places in the word

to the right books give them more

understanding

and help them not to be afraid of the

supernatural just because

they may not understand everything about

it

and i pray lord that you would fill each

and every person

with the holy spirit and that you would

keep us filled because we need

all of his presence and power that we

can possibly have

in our lives thank you so much in jesus

name

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natural life

very few days go by that i don’t thank

god for letting me teach the word

and yes it’s been a lot of hard work and

probably wanted to give up

a million times in the process and you

know when you’re in the public eye like

we are you

you get judged you get criticized you

have you know people that aren’t so kind

but in the

even with all that we’ve met so many

amazingly

wonderful people whose lives have been

changed by the word that

you know the few who cause you problems

are really nothing compared to all the

ones that

that you get to help and so you know our

desire

is is to continue doing what we’re doing

in some form or fashion

until jesus takes us home people ask all

the time are you thinking about retiring

or when you’re going to retire and

i i don’t know how you retire from a

call on your life it’s not like

not like having a job and so now at

certain age you retire i mean i just

want to do

i mean we have to make changes we have

to keep making adjustments

you know can’t work as hard as we used

to don’t don’t need to

don’t want to i always say i don’t work

harder i work smarter

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