On this episode of Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural! 2016, Mark Virkler and daughter Charity say God speaks to everybody and your destiny is an open book if you can understand your dreams. Are you listening?
Is there a supernatural
dimension,
a world beyond the one we know?
Is there life after death?
Do angels exist?
Can our dreams contain messages
from Heaven?
Can we tap into ancient secrets
of the supernatural?
Are healing miracles real?
Sid Roth has spent over 35 years
researching the strange world of
the supernatural.
Join Sid for this edition of
It’s Supernatural.
[Applause]
Sid: Hello. Sid Roth
here. Welcome.
Welcome to my world where it’s
naturally supernatural.
My guests say that if you do not
understand your dreams,
you will miss much of your
destiny for the last days.
But if you’re like me, these
symbol books of dreams,
these big books of symbols,
I’m just too practical.
If I can’t understand I’m going
to toss it out.
But it’s so simple they teach
children how to understand
their dreams.
And this is what they say.
They say everyone can understand
their dreams.
Everyone has dreams and God is
going to speak things
to you you’ll never get
in your natural mind.
You will hear God better than
you have before.
Do you want to learn?
Me, too.
[Applause]
Mark, our producers are so
excited about your understanding
of how we can understand dreams
and visions.
You say that our dreams are
absolutely the easiest way we
can hear from God.
Why do you say that?
Mark: Because dreams come from
our heart and thinking comes
from our head.
And when we go to sleep at night
our heart stays awake and our
heart communicates to us without
having to go through the
bottleneck of our brain.
And Jesus lives in our heart.
When I got saved I invited Jesus
into my heart.
So now we have heart to heart
communication without my brain
muddling up the works.
So dreams are simple, they’re
easy, they bypass the mind,
they give me direct revelation,
spirit to spirit,
heart to heart.
Sid: Well Charity, why are
dreams so important?
Charity: Dreams are so important
because God says they are.
Sid: Well that should
be good enough.
Charity: Exactly.
Over and over in the Bible he
says he’ll reveal himself to us
in visions, he’ll speak to us in
dreams, and he says that he’ll
open our ears and seal our
instruction,
and turn us wrongdoing, and
keep us from pride.
And I love with it says in Songs
of Solomon.
It talks about how dreams are
God’s contingency plan, because
it says that, “When we’re asleep
our heart is awake to commune
with our beloved.”
So when our mind shuts down, we
are kind of deified and put in
place of God.
When that thing rests at night
we go to our hearts and that’s
where God lives.
Ephesians 3:17, “God lives in
our hearts.”
So we want to live out of our
hearts as well and commune with
our beloved, and he speaks with
us wonderful counsel and
revelation every single night
through our dreams.
Sid: Mark, what about someone
that says, I don’t have dreams
or visions.
That’s just not me.
What would you say to them?
Mark: I would say what they
should be saying is I don’t
recall my dreams and visions,
because they do have dreams.
Every single night everybody
does and they’ve proven that in
sleep laboratories.
Because in a sleep laboratory
they can watch and tell when you
begin to dream, because when you
begin to dream your eyes begin
to flicker back and forth, and
it’s called REM sleep,
R-E-M, rapid eye movement.
And if they wake a person up
whenever they see their eyes
begin to move and don’t let them
dream, after three days they’re
going to enter into a nervous
breakdown, which shows how
important and central dreams are
for our emotional wellbeing.
Sid: Now most people that teach
on dreams have a big book on
symbols and all you do is look
in the book for your symbol,
but you don’t go
along with that.
Why?
Charity: You’re right.
People have complained to us and
told us, when we try to do that
we want to make sense of our
dreams and we jump online,
or we look at the dream symbol
dictionary, we feel more
confused at the end after we
looked it up.
This doesn’t make sense.
This doesn’t feel right.
And so they’re like, dream
interpretation, this is crazy.
But the dream symbol
dictionaries, they do not take
into account your own personal
experiences, your own unique
perceptions, your own individual
perspective on things.
For example, if I dream of a dog
and I love dogs, that’s great.
But if you dream of a dog and
you were viciously attacked by a
dog, well that’s going to say
two totally different things
depending on who is dreaming it.
Sid: You know what I found?
When I talk to these dream
experts, so to speak, and I give
them my dreams, each one gives
me a different interpretation.
So what I did, Mark, was I just
tossed the thing out except for
literal dreams.
And I do get literal dreams, but
they’re very infrequent.
Most of my dreams are the way
most of your dreams are, but I’m
never going to throw out God
speaking to me again.
And you make it so simple.
Have you heard that before from
others, Charity?
Charity: Definitely.
We’ve tried, to enter the
Kingdom of Heaven you have to be
like a little child.
So if we complicate it more than
a little kid can do then we’ve
made it too hard.
Sid: Now I’ve read a scripture
that it says,
“The wealth of the wicked is
stored up for the righteous.”
Did you know that God is in a
wealth transfer right now and he
wants to speak to you through
dreams and visions?
And when we come back, I’m going
to ask Dr. Mark to tell us some
famous things that have been
developed through
dreams and visions.
But you can get wisdom.
You can get solutions to family
problems.
You can get business ideas.
I mean, let’s face it.
If every night you could hear
from God it would be
heaven on Earth.
We’ll be right back.
Sid: Dr. Charity, you teach that
we are the best people to
interpret our own dreams.
We don’t have to go to the
experts.
We have the expert inside of us.
His name, Holy Spirit. Explain.
Charity: The dreamer himself is
the most qualified
interpretation expert of their
dream because they know what the
symbols mean to them better than
anyone.
You know your association with
whatever person or event,
or thing.
Number two, you know the setting
of the dream better than anyone.
You as the dreamer know that.
The setting is what is going on
in your waking life when you had
the dream.
Setting is everything.
We don’t know anything about a
dream until we know the setting.
So with every dream that we have
we want to go back to our
waking life and say,
what happened that day.
What was I was thinking about as
I got ready for bed?
What was I praying for as I fell
asleep?
Sid: It’s almost like a
lightbulb goes off.
Charity: Yes.
You have an a-ha moment.
The interpretation needs to
resonate in the heart of the
dreamer and then you know you
have the right message.
It just clicks.
Sid: Now Dr. Mark, tell me some
famous inventions.
And by the way, you’re saying,
oh I couldn’t come up
with an invention.
Do you think God could?
Does God have any problem?
He’s just looking for someone to
use. Just volunteer.
Say what Abraham
said, “Here am I, God.”
Tell me some
famous inventions.
Mark: Yes, and does God even
care about famous inventions or
does he just care about your
spiritual life, or is inventions
part of it all? And it is.
Let me tell you about Larry
Page.
He was at Stanford University,
22 years of age, and he had a
dream at night.
And in this dream he sees
himself downloading the entire
Internet onto his personal
computer, and he sees some
algorithms that are connecting
all the different articles like
computer code, and it’s showing
how he’s able to access and pull
these articles down.
He wakes up in the
middle of the night.
He spends two
hours writing out what
he can recall from that dream
with these different rules as
to how connect these articles
and pull them down.
He took it to his professor at
college and told him he was
going to create this in a couple
of weeks and his professor
laughed at him.
It took him a year of working
this dream out.
But a year later, he had the
Google search bar, which we now
all use, which has become the
foundation of Google
Enterprises, which has made that
the biggest, richest company in
the world today, and made the
founder of it, Larry Page, one
of the richest men in the world
today because he listened to a
dream, honored the dream, got up
and spent two hours writing
about it, spent a year working
it out and now he’s blessed the
world with a gift that we all
use every single day of our
lives, and he’s become wealthy
as a result of that.
Sid: Tell me one more.
I mean, there’s so many.
Wasn’t it Thomas Edison that
used to take a nap every day and
God would show him inventions?
Mark: Yes. Almost every single
inventor has done that.
And the gentleman who came up
with the sewing machine, he
couldn’t figure out, he patented
the first sewing machine.
He couldn’t figure out how to
thread the thread in the end of
a needle.
And he goes to sleep with that
question on his mind, and he has
a dream of an arrow being shot
through a wigwam wall, snaring a
thread on the inside of the wall
and pulling it back to the wall.
He said that’s the way to hook
the thread to the end
of this needle.
And he patented it, and he
became very, very wealthy.
So there’s another example from
recent history.
Sid: Mark, what would you say to
the person that’s listening to
us right now and say, but Dr.
Mark, I believe everything
you’re saying, but I don’t
remember one of my dreams.
Mark: Well that’s really, really
simple to resolve.
All you simply have to do is you
lay there in bed at night, say,
“Holy Spirit, would you give me
a dream tonight.”
Say, “I believe in dreams.
I believe in my heart.
I believe my heart wants to
communicate with me revelation,
and Lord, I’m asking you to give
me revelation in this area that
I’m exploring right now, because
you’ve asked me to explore it,
and you have wonderful answers.”
You go to sleep asking that and
wake up, and you put paper and
pencil next to your bed, saying
to your heart,
“If you wake me up I’ll write
down what you give me.”
If you do that, I guarantee you,
you’re going to wake up every
week with wonderful stuff to
write down.
Sid: You know what I found out
in your teaching, most people
are like me and they just, I’m
so pragmatic.
If I can’t understand my dream,
I don’t want to even waste my
time fooling with it.
But then what I was thinking
from your teaching is there was
no expectancy and I got what I
expected, nothing.
Mark: Right.
Sid: How important is it to
believe you’re going
to have this?
Mark: According to your faith,
be it unto you,
ask and you will receive.
So if I’m not going to believe
in dreams and I’m not going to
ask for dreams then the Bible is
clear to say I’m
going to get nothing.
Because he who comes to God must
believe that he is and he’s the
rewarder of those who seek him.
If I say, I don’t really know if
I believe in dreams, well you’re
not believing in God speaking
from your heart.
So you’re getting nothing.
You have to take a step of faith
and say, look, the Bible covers
dreams, I believe in dreams, I
believe in the Bible, I’m going
to practice living in dreams.
It’s as simple as that.
Sid: Now also we’re living in a
very complex world today.
What if, and God knows what’s
going to happen today,
and he can warn you.
Give me an example of a warning
dream.
Mark: A warning dream.
I was on the phone with a lady
who was phoning me from prison
and she had a warning dream
before she even got saved from
God, which shows God’s
tremendous love for
every single person.
And she was a teenager thinking
of going from Utah or Nevada
over to California.
In the dream, the warning was
don’t go to California.
If you do, you’re going to go to
prison.
She ignored the warning.
She went to California.
She got involved in the drug
scene and in a drug induced
stupor, she killed her roommate,
and she’s now spending a life
prison sentence in a California
prison, which she wouldn’t have
had to do had she honored the
voice of God through her dream
and the warning of God through
her dream.
Sid: Charity, you have so opened
up my thinking to children
having advantage over people
like me, children having
advantage over everyone in
dreaming, and we just totally
dismiss this.
What would happen if you taught
your children that God speaks
through dreams?
What would happen if your
children start telling you what
God has in store for them?
It’s just expanding my thinking
so much.
When we come back I want to
find, Charity, what you found
out, and you have a degree in
Biblical Studies.
We’ll come right back.
We’ll be right back to It’s
Supernatural.
We now return to It’s
Supernatural.
[Applause]
Sid: Okay. I’ve been waiting for
you to share this, Dr. Charity.
I think it must be a degree of a
passion with you.
Children just physiologically
are better adapted to get dreams
than us adults. Explain.
Charity: You’re right.
They’re very sensitive to the
supernatural world.
They’re very sensitive to the
Spirit because of their
brainwave state.
Adults, right now, we’re in
Beta.
It’s like a faster, logical,
analytical brain wave state.
Sid: Absolutely.
That’s where I am.
Charity: But then there’s Alpha.
And Alpha is a slower more
meditative kind of prayerful
brainwave state.
And when we dream we’re in
Alpha.
And just as we’re falling asleep
at night and just as we’re
waking up in the morning, that’s
Alpha, when we’re not really
sure if we’re awake or asleep
and the veil between the
physical and the spiritual is
very thin.
That’s Alpha.
Well the incredible thing that
science has found about children
is that they live continually,
day and night, in the Alpha
brain wave state up until seven
years of age.
So they’re not living logically
and analytically out of their
head, they’re living out of
their heart.
Sid: I would rather
do that myself.
Charity: You’re right.
They’re living out of Second
Corinthians 4:18.
They’re living to
an unseen realm.
They’re living
to an inner kingdom.
And so we know God lives in our
hearts.
We all want to live out of
hearts and that makes us very
sensitive to the supernatural
realm that infuses and permeates
this natural realm.
Sid: Maybe that’s why so many
children love our show.
I’m amazed, I mean, even at
young ages, they’re attracted to
It’s Supernatural.
Charity: Absolutely.
They see into the Spirit.
They hear.
They are young seers.
They are very gifted in the
prophetic.
You’re right.
Sid: Now you teach simple keys
to understanding of dreams and
the keys work for children, but
they also work for all of us.
Tell us a few of the keys.
Charity: There’s three specific
questions that we want
to ask about every
single dream we have.
Number one, we want to ask what
is the setting.
And we talked about what’s going
on in our waking life when we
have the dream.
And then number two, we want to
ask what is the main action of
the dream.
In the dream, what am I doing?
Am I running?
Am I hiding?
Am I ministering?
That’s the key action.
And the third question we want
to ask about every dream is in
the dream, how am I feeling?
Am I excited?
Am I scared?
Am I disappointed, grateful?
That’s the key emotion.
And then we take the key emotion
and action from the dream, and
we look in our waking life, and
we match it up.
Where in waking life am I
feeling that emotion?
Where am I doing this, and then
experiencing these things?
Then we overlay our waking life
world setting on
top of the dream.
We see where it matches up.
Then we know what area of our
life the dream is speaking to.
For example, I can share a
dream.
And it seems silly.
It seems like it’s just a pizza
but there’s really, there’s a
message in it from God.
I had a dream where I was on a
pole vaulting team.
All the people on the team.
Sid: Now you see, if I had a
dream like that I’d say, but
God, don’t you know I’m not an
athlete.
Charity: Yes.
But then we know to translate we
need to look at the picture
symbolically, figuratively.
It’s all in pictures.
So okay, everyone on the team
was able to pole vault
except for me.
I was too weak and I was too
sick, and I couldn’t get over
the high bar.
So what’s the main action in
this dream?
Well I’m trying to get over
something and the feeling
is I’m struggling because
I can’t do it.
So where in waking life am I
struggling to get over
something?
Well in waking life I had
actually been talking to God
about someone who had said
something to me and I was a
little bit offended.
I’m like, God, should I confront
them?
Should I tell them they hurt my
feelings or should I just
forgive them, walk in love and
let it go, just get over it?
Well God gave me this picture at
night, showing me everyone else
who was on your team, they were
able to get over it.
If you’re spiritually strong, if
you’re a spiritually healthy
person you should have no
trouble getting over.
Pole vaulting was the picture,
but getting over was the
problem.
So by looking at what’s going on
in our waking life and matching
it up with the dream we’re able
to see kind of what God is
speaking to.
Sid: You know, another clue that
you gave me is that when you
have multiple dreams in a night
most likely they’re all telling
you the same thing.
Charity: Absolutely.
That’s how it was for Pharaoh in
the book of Genesis.
He dreams of corn on the cob and
then he’s dreaming of the fat
cows, and that seems unrelated.
They have nothing to do with
each other.
But Joseph is like, hey, that’s
one and the same message.
That’s all talking about the
same famine that’s
going to happen.
So when we have lots of
different dreams they might seem
unrelated, but in one night God
is usually speaking to a single
heart issue and he’s just
showing us different angles,
different perspectives so that
we can get the message.
He’s showing us all different
perspectives to communicate the
message meaning he has for us.
Sid: Mark, you say very strongly
we should write down our dreams.
When do we write them down, when
we have them and wake up, or do
we write them down first thing
after we finished our sleep for
the night?
What do you recommend?
Mark: You do it as soon as you
wake up.
So if you wake up in the middle
of the night, 2:00 from the
dream, you write it down at 2:00
because chances are you’ll have
forgotten most of your dreams by
the time you wake up in the
morning.
And so you write the dream down
as soon as you receive it.
God loves you to write things
down because you’re honoring
your heart.
You’re saying to your heart,
you’re important.
You wake me up and I’ll record
what you give me.
So your heart says, great, I’m
going to wake you up
because you now honor me.
And it’s a way of
memorializing it.
It’s a way of extending it
because you as you begin to
write the flow gives you pieces
that you forgot about, and you
say, there was that.
Sid: That’s what I’ve noticed.
In other words, it’s almost like
the Holy Spirit will bring the
recall when you have the intent.
I want to know what you told me.
Last minute, would
you pray for us.
Would you pray that everyone
watching have sweet sleep and
people with sleep problems and
remember our dreams.
Mark: Amen. Be glad to.
So right now, Father, we just
come to you in the name of
Jesus, and Father, we just
release sweet sleep and dreams
into the heart of every single
listener here today.
And we speak to your heart and
we say be at peace
as you fall asleep.
Give your care to the Lord Jesus
Christ and receive sweet rest,
deep rest from the Holy Spirit,
and we speak to your heart for
faith to arise within your heart
that you will have the gift of
faith to believe that dreams are
the language of the Holy Spirit
and God is speaking directly
into your heart.
So I speak faith into your heart
right now to believe in the
value of dreams, and it’s God
speaking to you through those
dreams.
So Father, we receive those
gifts right now.
In Jesus’ name we thank you for
them.
We bless you for them in Jesus’
name. Amen.
Sid: God says that he gives his
beloved sweet sleep.
The question is, are you his
beloved?
If Jesus is your Lord, if you
believe Jesus forgave you of
your sins and you say it out
loud, and you ask Jesus to live
inside of you, I’m going to tell
you something, you and I want
this to go deep inside of you,
you are the beloved of God.
You really are.
Sid: Next week on It’s
Supernatural.
My guest was a paramedic in an
ambulance and one day God speaks
to him and says, I want you to
pray for the sick in the
ambulance, and he doesn’t even
believe in healing.
But it’s God, so he starts
praying.
He gets something like 80
percent of the people
healed now.
Anyone interested in those
results?
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