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on its supernatural has America been

cursed for cursing the nation of Israel

why does blessing the nation of Israel

bring blessings upon America the ancient

prophets have the answers find out more

on this edition of It’s

Supernatural Sid Roth has spent 25 years

researching The Strange World of the

supernatural join Sid on this edition of

it’s

Supernatural hello sidroth here welcome

to my world where it’s naturally

Supernatural my guest John murnan has

researched facts that will absolutely

Amaze you I can almost hear some of you

saying amazing the worst disasters to

hit the United States of America were

directly connected with what the United

States did with the nation Israel John

when did you first come into this

revelation of that I mean it’s like

within 24 hours sometimes these

judgments occur yes it yeah uh I first

saw it with Israel in August of

1992 with Hurricane Andrew and on the

front page of the papers was all the

destruction of Hurricane Andrew and

right there was the Madrid peace process

being transferred from Israel to the

United States for the first time so if

you can picture this hurricane K Andrew

ran through southern Florida early in

the in the morning about 6:00 a.m. it

had finished at 10:00 a.m. the Madrid

peace process met in Washington for the

first time and the purpose of the Madrid

peace process was to carve up Israel to

force Israel to give away God’s covenant

land for peace and that pattern from

actually goes and I did a little more

research before that to the Madrid peace

process started Sid which was October

30th of

1991 and when President Bush was giving

President Bush senior was giving his

speech in in Madrid to start the peace

process his own home in Cy bunkport

Maine was being destroyed by The Perfect

Storm sending 30 foot waves against his

home and and now can we call that a

coincidence well Sid in my people have

told me that but in my book I have about

40 of this such similar disasters and

they’re not weekend thunderstorm

they’re the greatest disasters in

American history Hurricane Katrina

hurricane Andrew Hurricane Ike of course

in my book a flip side and the flip side

is when you are a blessing to Israel

you’re blessed there’s a unique History

of the United States and the Jewish

people in Israel explain that Sid that’s

that’s the beginning of the book I go

into America is unique with compared to

any country in the world in blessing the

Jewish people um going back to George

Washington I have quotes in George was

from George Washington that are just

absolutely amazing Sid uh I don’t know

why we’re not shouting this from the

roof rooftops and the church every

Christian doesn’t know this but George

Washington wrote letters to the Jewish

communities back in 1790 and he he

literally said to them that he wanted

America to be like the Messianic Reign

for the Jewish people he quoted Malachi

vers 4:3 for and in another letter he

said the same God that created that took

the children of Israel from Egypt into

the promised land was the same God that

created these United States remember

America was only like a couple years old

at this time and he said and this is

George Washington’s writings blessed is

the nation whose God is the Lord and

George Washington said that the god of

Israel is the god of the United States

and so right from our very beginning we

bless the Jewish people here in America

but historically this has been a safe

haven it’s almost an unusual window of

time in the history of the Jewish people

we’ve prospered here yes Sid um but our

nation is prospered too right and you

can watch like you go I go by the Jewish

people’s writings and at the time of the

American Revolution they said that they

were the freest Jewish people in the

world and they said in fact going back

to when when Rome conquered uh Israel

they were the freest Jews and America

became the freest people you see the

parallel and then as America began to uh

like like before the Civil War said let

me just catch myself on this we know

nothing really even Jews know nothing of

their own history in America before the

Civil War there were Jewish Mayors there

were Jewish Governors there were Jewish

ambassadors it wasn’t an impediment to

be a Jew in America now there may have

been individuals that didn’t like a

Jewish person but it wasn’t an imp

pediment then we come to the Civil War

Sid there were eight Jewish Generals in

the US in the United States Army isn’t

that amazing there were I think six or

seven Medal of Honor winners who were

Jewish president Lincoln um specifically

had a law enacted to allow Jewish

chaplain before the Civil War there

there were no Jewish chaplain in the

Army he specifically had a law enacted

to allow Jewish chaplain in the Army in

most countries they have laws

hindering the Jewish people here in

America we made laws specifically to

bless them in in in in having Jewish

chaplain in the Army so we’ve got this

history of blessing the Jewish people

why does this go on though I mean why is

it a truth that when you bless Jewish

people you’re blessed when you curse

Jewish people you’re cursed what’s the

basis of that it goes back to Genesis in

the Bible with Abraham and we Genesis

12:3 for example where God says speaking

to Abraham and his descendants I’ll

bless bless them that bless you and I’ll

curse them that curse you so as you

bless the Jewish people a blessing comes

on you individually but in the case of

America it came on the

nation and you know you reveal something

that I never knew and that is the

relationship between the church and the

nation Israel as far as it’s it’s even

its formation explain that yes Sid

starting after the Civil War there was a

sort of a continuous Revival in the

United States it wasn’t like may be a

spectacular gigantic Revival but it was

a continuous Revival and the two themes

of it or one of the major themes was the

second coming of the Lord and the other

part was the restoration of the Jewish

people back to the land so there’s a

Revival taking place and at the same

time the Zar of Russia is persecuting

the Jews in starting in 1881 1882 with

horrible persecution programs were just

decimating the Jewish population in

Russia and the Jewish people heard how

blessed they were in America and Sid

they literally walked West out of Russia

into Germany with no idea how they were

going to get here but they were going to

come to America they called it the the

famous land and uh individuals helped uh

these Jews leaving Germany get to

America and America opened up its arms

and no matter how many Jews came in or

came from especially Russia we took them

in so here you you have Europe closed

doors you have Russia quote the Russian

Orthodox Christian Church absolutely

persecuting the Jews horribly and they

have to come 3 4,000 miles whatever it

is to America America opens its arms up

and said I document in the book where

the moment we started to allow these

Russian Jews to come in by mass God

raised us up as a world power and I want

you to understand the

moment that America stopped

being under the blessings of God don’t

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Supernatural hello Sid Roth here with

John murnan and we were finding

fascinating history that very few people

understand of how the American church

was instrumental in the formation of the

nation Israel in modern times expl

Sid we have been talking about that

Revival taking place in America and the

Jewish people pouring in from Russia and

the church saw the plight of the Jewish

people they were destitute Sid they were

poverty-stricken they were beaten

emotionally and it touched the heart of

the church and the church said it’s time

for the Jewish people to have a state so

in starting actually in

1891 what history records as the

Blackstone Memorial black uh William

Blackstone was a Christian evangelist

and he kind of rose to the head of this

movement and uh he had a letter prepared

to the president of the United States

who then was President Harrison asking

for the president to declare an

International Conference for the

creation of what we call today the state

of Israel so that the Jewish people

could be safe and have a state and uh it

was scied by over 400 of the most

prominent Americans this was not just an

isolated segment we had the Chief

Justice of Supreme Court signed it the

speaker of the house signed it Sid

future President McKinley signed it

Mayors Governors um Senators leaders of

the like uh DL Moody the famous

Christian evangelist he signed it you

know we don’t hear things like this what

we hear is as a Jew what I hear is

Theodore Herzel and Zionism that did it

but you’re telling me underneath that

was the Christian influence C it was the

spiritual foundation for it it was the

the literal spiritual foundation for the

modern state of Israel was birthed

primarily some somewhat in England but

primarily here in the United States and

in

1916 Lewis brandise who was an associate

Chief Justice of the United States he

had a Zionist Congress in Philadelphia

and in that in that Congress he

invited um Blackstone to come and be the

chief speaker and Lewis brandise in in

identified um Blackstone as the father

of modern Zionism the early zionists

attributed a Christian evangelist as the

I’ve got that quote in my book s listen

you have so much but what I want to find

out is you God has shown you there have

been what you call warning judgments yes

and uh now we’re even past that when did

the day is can you pinpoint when the

blessings start I mean the blessings

have been on America that’s obvious but

when the blessings started to lift can

you pinpoint it yeah I can pinpoint it

to the day Sid October 30th 1991 when

President Bush Senor initiated the

Madrid peace process and we have to

understand that peace process is that

Israel uh must give away Covenant land

including Jerusalem for peace that was

initiated by the president of the United

States with the power of the United

States behind it and from that day Sid

to this we’ve had disaster after

disaster after disaster you know as you

mentioned the top five disasters

including economic are connected with

this and Sid um there’s a urgency on me

now because we have spoken in the past I

I believe I believe that John murnan is

a modernday prophet and what he’s about

ready to tell you is what’s going on

inside of him and it’s going on inside

of him because the spirit of the Living

God is causing him to say this Sid when

I was on your previous shows we were

kind of talking about things in the past

if you remember and now it’s current

we’re talking about current things and

Sid um so I I have trouble sleeping at

night because of the um the feeling of

the judgment on America as I was telling

you it’s settled like a fog over our

nation and it’s really boiling down to

Jerusalem see I have here in front of me

a speech that President Bush gave on uh

July 16th

2017 and in it it’s it’s kind of a

lengthy speech and it’s too much for me

to

quote uh but what the President says in

this speech is that he specifically says

it’s time for the Israelis to forget

about the West West Bank and to look

towards the Negev and to look towards

the goand heights but to forget about

the West Bank because it’s going to

become a pal Palestinian State and then

he mentions Jerusalem Jerusalem is going

to be the key in this and Sid on that

that was a

Monday and Thursday the stock market

reached an all-time high of over 14,000

points and then on Friday the subprime

loan debacle hit so if you take from

today and we look we’ve had the collapse

of lhan Brothers recently we’ve had Merl

Lynch we’ve had Bear Sterns we’ve had

Freddy May and Fanny Mack these gigantic

Banks and lending institutions collapse

if you trace it all the ways back it

goes back Sid to July 20th of 2007 that

was the Friday following the president’s

speech to divide Israel and Jerusalem so

I believe that a a curse has come on

America on our finances because of the

president’s policy he’s put America the

the he’s put the power of America on the

Israelis to divide Jerusalem well why is

God so upset about dividing Jerusalem I

mean maybe we can have a little peace in

the Middle East well Sid God has a

covenant with the Jewish people over the

land and specifically you can look in

the Bible in Zach IAH 12 13 and 14

specifically talk about Jerusalem and

not to touch Jerusalem not to touch it s

the Nations that touch Jerusalem the

Bible says will be destroyed listen the

living Bible says in Zechariah he that

touches Israel is the same as someone

that pokes their finger in God’s eye

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we now return to its

Supernatural the only word I can come up

with is amazing when you look at how

quickly when the United States does

something against Israel judgments hit

the United States if it was one

coincidence if it was 10 still

coincidence but how many John murnan

have you personally identified about 70

and I have probably about 40 in my book

there was it was too many to put them

all in the book within many or most

within 24 hours same day Sid 24 hours

yeah give me some examples Sid we can

got we have recent examples um June we

had the massive floods in Iowa worst

floods in in history you remember them

Sid yes of course okay and the height of

the flood condalisa rice was in

Jerusalem and she was furious at the

Israel I absolutely Furious because they

were building homes in East Jerusalem

and the reason she’s Furious is they

want East Jerusalem to become a

Palestinian State she wasn’t she

wouldn’t admit that but she wants that

to be the capital of a Palestinian State

she went as far as to say Sid that the

United States would not recognize those

homes as being part of Israel at the

exact time she was there at the exact

time she was saying this we were having

Iowa with the worst floods in history we

had major cities in Iowa underwater we

had the crops being destroyed the dollar

was absolutely free falling the stock

market was crashing and the price of oil

was surging record now that’s in

June she goes there in August and she’s

doing the same thing and we have while

she’s there tropical storm Frey uh Fay

that’s faay was hit Florida four times

it went hit Florida it came out it came

back

the weather men were amazed at this so

at the exact time she is there um

bullying Israel again we have the entire

State of Florida being devastated by

tropical storm uh fate then keep condesa

away from Israel is that the message

well Sid The Unofficial official policy

of the United States has been to in

these negotiations has been to divide

Jerusalem they haven’t said anything

officially but unofficially it’s obvious

like I just shared in June with

condalisa rice what she did on on

September 11th of all days the council

General of the United States in

Jerusalem finally let the cat out of the

bag and said that the United States is

officially working to divide Jerusalem

the state department immediately denied

it they said these here they didn’t

quite deny it they said these are being

done in secret you shouldn’t discuss it

and that Sid on the next day Hurricane

Ike hit Texas the next day the next day

Sid the next day and we know the damage

that it’s done it’s devastated houon and

that Galveston I mean just tremendous

areas have been devastated by this tens

of thousands of homes destroyed and

people um homeless said then on that

actually was Friday and Saturday is when

the hurricane devastated the coast of

Texas then Saturday and Sunday Leman

Brothers Bank failed which is the

largest

Bank in American I guess in world

history to fail $639 billion Monday the

stock market fell 300 and something

points then went up then it fell 400 and

we know the chaos that’s occurred since

so we have on a Thursday the United

States coming out and is official that

we’re working to divide Jerusalem the

very next day hurricane ikits that the

next day Leman Brothers Bank fails then

the stock market has been in absolute

convulsions with huge huge losses and

everything and I you can trace it right

back now John your book covers this I

know you have sent this is the updated

version uh which is just really as

updated as you can get this literally

right off the printing printing press uh

but and you you’ve sent your book to

senators and congressmen but sending it

and reading it are two different things

but if I could put you at this moment

transport you to the US Senate what

would you say to our Senators look in

the camera and talk S I would say to the

politicians of America especially Sid

it’s it’s not the Senators as much as it

is the president and the state

department that seems to be the real

problem Sid and I would tell the

president of the United States that as

you divide Jerusalem as you divide the

Covenant land God is going to divide

America said that’s this to back off

Jerusalem to back off the Covenant land

that America has no right to interfere

with God’s prophetic plan

but someone might say um I’m a Muslim

I’m uh uh Hindu what do I care about

that well Sid um it doesn’t really

matter to the Lord whether you do it in

ignorance or you do it with will that if

you who whoever interferes with God’s uh

Covenant land who interferes with God’s

prophetic plan for Israel because we

know Sid ultimately the nation of Israel

has to be there for their Redemption and

the second coming of the Lord Jesus

Christ so what we do know is we know

Israel will be there but we don’t know

about the United States uh Sid um with

what I believe the Lord has been showing

me the United States does not have too

long to exist as we know it we have we

have done everything to provoke the Lord

but the church will not listen Sid

there’s a glazing that comes over

people’s eyes when I speak to them about

this when I talk to pastors they refuse

to stand up they refuse to repent they

refuse to lead in prayer and fasting and

ask the Lord to have mercy on us for

what we’re doing to change our

government’s policy they act like

nothing’s happening Sid and the

judgments are falling all around us what

are you feeling in your belly at this

moment complete economic meltdown that

we are heading into a third world nation

with poverty said yeah you know the

prophet Joel in the third chapter

says that Nations will be judged in the

last days amazingly over only one issue

yes and the one issue it specifically

says for dividing up my land and now you

look at this book that documents uh up

up till uh in modern days every single

time the United States Has Lifted their

fingers against Israel horrible economic

uh judgments

hurricanes

floodings so what are we supposed to do

at a time like this there’s only one

thing that you can do and that is open

up your heart to intimacy with God

that’s all that

counts there are people that are

listening to me right now and you go to

Church you go to mosque you go to

synagogue but I have to ask you the most

important operative question do you know

God it’s wonderful that you watch people

on television that know God it’s

wonderful that your pastor knows God but

do you know God you

see this life is just a blink of the eye

that’s all it is and then eternity and

where you you going to spend eternity

who are you going to spend with

eternity you do not know when your end

will come this is the moment that if you

have ever

ever ever thought it’s possible to know

God I tell you it is if you’ve ever

thought that God doesn’t love you you’re

wrong because God is pure

love if you will reach out to God in

your way and the only way is in the name

of Jesus if you will say I Repent of my

sins I’m sorry and I ask to be forgiven

and I make Jesus my Lord my

savior the choice is yours God’s already

made a choice he loves you he so loves

you he sent his son now you choose

God it’s life or death

death intimacy are

nothing