In this It’s Supernatural! Classic episode from 1998: Witchcraft…Is it real? Have psychics really tapped into a supernatural power? Carol Kornacki says yes. In this video, Carol exposes the very real dangers of witchcraft, psychics, hypnotism, and tarot cards.
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witchcraft is it real have psychics
really tapped into the supernatural
power my guest says yes finally your
questions answering and more life after
death experiences and until the
communications are on the increase
terminally ill patients and doctors have
given no hope are unexplainable insured
and blur being mysteriously protected
from natural disasters
Sid Roth your investigative reporter
examines this invisible world on it’s
supernatural
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hello my name is Sid Roth my guest carol
Kornacki carol came from a very abusive
background she was molested
she was try her literally tried to
poison her she had abortions she was on
drugs she got involved in all the areas
we’ve been talking about white
witchcraft psychics magic Buddhism I
mean you name it you were looking for
something in all of these you are
looking for love tell me about its
reality the reality of the witchcraft
yes witchcraft is very real witchcraft
is a power what are the things that I’ve
said said is if you go to the devil for
power he will give it to you if you go
and you want power you can have it so
why shouldn’t everyone listening to us
just go there for power because is great
as it looks it is intriguing as it looks
and as drawing as it can be the end
thereof is death there’s always a price
to pay
you can talk to major people major male
witch is they were once called warlocks
they like to be forgers mail which is
now women in witchcraft and there’s
something a package that comes with
intense power and that’s fear it comes
it is part of it all it’s married but
they know I don’t see any
of them saying I’m fearful they look
pretty so confident I just got back from
a trip to New Orleans and I saw people
walking around it looked like vampires
and they looked they looked happy I
think we have a tendency to always try
to look like whatever we’re into no
matter how insecure we may really be
underneath to give the appearance that
it’s wonderful and it has everything we
could want
Syd let’s face it we live in a super
natural world people everywhere are
looking for super natural power we’re
hungry for it more than ever before
psychics are very very popular so I
could network of course people have
spent as much it’s 12 and 13 thousand
dollars in a month Syd to get on these
phones in to call somebody up and say
tell me what to do with my past present
and future starving for direct I started
to believe that much money people oh my
goodness yes sir all those people have
spent as much as 12,000 I had a woman
come one time and talk to me and say
$12,000 $4.99 per minute you multiply
that daily hours on the telephone
looking for an answer if some of it real
some people say well it’s the psychic
power real in many instances maybe 95
percent yes there is a psychic power
that operates and we have to look at two
kingdoms here the kingdom of light and
the kingdom of darkness
you can’t talk about psychic power that
is forbidden by the kingdom of light
without looking into the bottom line so
let’s look at the power of darkness
let’s look at this psychic phenomena
psychics people that you call up what do
they do
are they literally sitting there and
getting all kinds of power for your
situation you pick up the phone see you
make the call 1-800 or 1 900 I answer
the phone I’m an operating psychic
what’s happening that I’m able at times
to tap into your business what is
happening well in my estimation and what
I’ve learned through my environment I
understand I spent 6 years in that world
I was a psychic for 6 years and many
times did when a person like yourself
called the line or came in contact with
me or I read their cards I was accurate
and when I was able to evaluate after
getting out of it and
looking at it clearly is there the devil
is not stupid people should not go
around saying the devil of stupid he is
not stupid he has a tremendous
tremendous way of operating in the earth
and that’s why people are deceived so
you call me and I’m supposed to be
tapping into your life and giving you
information there are unclean spirits or
let’s say spirits that travel about
continuously in this earth plane when
you’re out doing anything those spirits
are aware of it whether you are doing
good whether you’re out at a job and
you’re going to get a promotion whether
you’re out committing adultery whether
you’re stealing no matter what you’re
doing those fears are around and about
you of course the Bible I think calls
them familiars familiars familiar with
what’s going on familial spirit is a
growth is that I believe it’s a Greek
word that means to mumble to grumble
that’s why when you hear in seances and
different areas and not to get off the
subject I’ll get back to what I was just
talking about
but that mumbling and grumbling that’s a
mumble that’s what’s familiar means it’s
this mumble sound that almost sounds
like it’s coming through a jar and a lot
of times when you’re in a seance or
you’re involved in some sort of psychic
opportunity when that guide that spirit
guide is speaking to you sometimes it’s
a grumble voice or foreign type sound to
the voice and that’s what familiar means
so these spirits are around about using
you for an example for our watching
audience they’re around and about you
the totally aware of your life now you
call me and I’m separating and psychic
power I have opened up myself to this
psychic ability I have said yes to this
realm all right so is a spirit such as
you describe inside of you telling
telling you what to say when I was
reading cards when I was working in
psychic area spiritualism that spirit
that was with you that knew all your
business would come right around and
would speak into my ear and tell me what
you were doing that’s how I had input
then there’s a psyche power within in
the soul a psyche working power that can
tap here is an example a woman is
sitting in her house she’s not an evil
woman or a bad woman and here she is
sitting there home and she feels this
feeling her daughter’s in danger you’ve
had that happen I’m sure in your own or
supreme’ nishan yeah
exactly you don’t you’re not tapping
into any power but suddenly you know my
daughters and I in harm’s way maybe you
might whisper a prayer or maybe you
might chance something or maybe you just
might sit them ring your hands together
in a moment the phone rings you go mom I
was just involved in an accident well
how did you know that there’s a psychic
power that works inside of all of us Sid
and then power that works at times Satan
will come in and teach a person who’s
involved in psychics spiritualism how to
operate in it and moving it and walk in
it as well as times when a familiar
spirit will come and speak to me the
psychic is we explained for your
listening audience and it’s some
information and I’ll save you I see a
woman in your life
her name is Jane and you’re sitting
there and I’m reading you and you’re
embarrassed because I’m telling you
about something very invent well that
spirit was there when you did all those
things that spirit was there when you
stole from the job so in psychic
spiritualism card reading information
giving through a medium through a
psychic sometimes so local power movie
working inspired by powers that are
forbidden by God obviously if you read
your Bible in Leviticus and Deuteronomy
and also other times a familiar spirit
coming and giving information and
there’s other times Sid when you might
pick up a phone and again using you as
an example and you call me and I’ll pick
up a pair of carrot cards and I’m just
they’re getting paid five dollars an
hour throw them up in there wherever
they fall I’ll read and just give you
any kind of a reading whatsoever or at
times you may pull up in a car with a
license plate from Alabama and here you
are in Florida well I can look out the
window and say I perceive you’re from
another state you’re traveling you’re on
a journey or it’s tax time I perceive or
the Spirit is telling me that there’s a
check coming in the mail for six years I
operated in this many many times I was
extremely accurate frightening ly
accurate other times it was bogus and
guessing games other time words were
coming too many spirits giving me
information on that individual or
someone in a crowd as I was reading so
if psychic power real yes there are
average when you learn to wait a second
you were a white witch that’s someone
that uses power for good so what’s wrong
with good it is believed that in
witchcraft today in Wicca whenever we do
different meetings sometimes Wiccans
will come and they’ll say to me well
you’re attacking us you’re saying that
we’re evil well we’re not doing anything
evil and there’s many times that they
deny things they’ll say that we are
covenant ‘add that we must do good we
cannot do harm to anyone well that’s not
– because when I was in which white
witchcraft I was burning candles against
people doing incantations against people
doing magic against people doing spells
against people and most often when
practicing any type of witchcraft you
enter into these things you enter into
these things you have to protect
yourself just like people in the human
realm will protect themselves as someone
who hurts them well in witchcraft you
use a psychic power you may send a
spirit off to do harm to someone you may
do a hex on someone so there is no line
of demarcation we’re drying your power
from an unclean source last week you
said that these spirits literally after
a while started telling you to kill
yourself exactly but what they did said
was they did it carefully because I was
a believer in reincarnation I believed
that my life was a cycle and this is the
New Age philosophy the pantheistic God
God is everything I am God you are God
this chair is God the floor is God the
waters God we’re all God everything on
earth versus one yes
Wiccans believe that God is in the Sun
and the moon and the stars and the wind
and the rain and they are God they they
worship the created thing rather than
the creator and so you believe you
really believe in this state that you’re
in that it’s it’s okay to do this it is
a it’s white witchcraft you’re not
harming anyone but you have to at
certain times now these same spirits
would come to me and say well this life
you’re living you need to go on to the
next so it would be best if you passed
out of this life so suicide is not a
terrible thing they would teach me it’s
a good thing your
pass out of this life yes but way second
there’s been like proof people been
hypnotized and they knew what happened a
hundred years ago when they lived I
don’t believe that
first of all hypnotism is very dangerous
and I’m going to tell you why we have
you ever watched a hypnotist that
entertains oh sorry about that for me
here you’re a mild man very business
type person in your manner I’m a little
out going on from New York but a person
like yourself why can a hypnotist come
up take a mild mannered very nice
reserved human being like yourself and
get you acting like a chicken bark and
acting silly in front of a group of
people while you’re in a so-called
hypnotic state how I because you yielded
your will to that hypnotist that’s why
hypnotism isn’t dangerous
so when I come to a hypnotist I say I am
subject to your will and they put me
into sleep in anything they tell me to
do I will do so you are literally taking
your will the most powerful force in
your human build because you have a
choice to do anything you want you can
do this or that you take that will and
you give it to that hypnotist he puts
you in a hypnotic state and you obey
everything he tells you to do right up
to making a fool out of yourself in
front of a group at a party so hypnotism
is a very dangerous state now I don’t
know that I believe and I’m not hesitant
to say because I stand for what I
believe that I think it noses at times
can be very it can be bogus it can be
faked these people who claim that
they’re all the way back 100 years and
lived in a colonial town and all that I
believe it’s a bunch of month but but
but I also wonder if some of those
familiar spirits were around a hundred
years ago or just giving them that
information is very possible think about
that that’s excellent they certainly
were there and here they are introducing
to this person in a hypnotic state all
the culture and what was going on in the
traditions in those moments and that
person is receiving the information from
that spirit and they’re speaking it
forth and the hip person who’s put them
in the attic state believes that the
information is true what happened to the
demons literally they were inside of you
from opening yourself up to these realms
when they heard a song about the blood
of Jesus it’s important for those who
didn’t want your program last week’s
that I if I can take a minute
to give them some information I believed
that when I allowed my human spear and
rather this was a psychic power evil
working making me believe or it was
really happy that I could ask her
project which is spirit flight bring my
human spirit out and that there was a
cord attached so I never wanted to go
too far now I many times would find
myself lying and watching myself said
and this is the truth
well I change this form of myself moving
about many times I would see myself in a
spirit form looking down at my body
lying down in the bed or where I a
stroke or astral projecting spirit
traveling I believed in my witchcraft
study and I think Adam go out of that
mess but for now I believe that when I
allowed my spirit to come out unclean
spirits or spirit guides as we refer to
them now could come in why do people
want spirit guides because they feel
that these spirit guides have so much
information of this this plane that you
and I don’t walk in the spirit plane
they have their Indians from years ago
their Egyptians they’ve all this is with
what channeling is oh this is what
people believe and so I would ask you to
check my spirit out allow these spirit
guides to come in as I believed some
would be Jesus one might be Cleopatra
one might be an Indiana chief this is
the guys that they’re under I would let
them in and here I was walking around
then my spirit would come in in my
astral travel and I’d be walking around
and suddenly I would allow these spirits
that I let in Sid for information for
wisdom from this other plane I’m seen by
the human eye I would let those spirits
speak through me so you and I would be
sitting in a in an environment or an
atmosphere and these spirits would begin
to come through or maybe someone would
want a message and I would tap into
these spirit guides to get a message to
this person’s dead loved one to party so
how did these spirits react to the song
the blood of Jesus when these spirits
were living inside me I went to church
and when I got in the church and sat
down I hadn’t a hint that there was
going to be any harm to them whatsoever
and there I am sitting in the church and
suddenly the blood-bought Church of
Jesus Christ rose to its feet and began
to sing oh the blood of Jesus said all I
can explain to you is in a moment It was
as if they were in torment because of
the power the supernatural power of God
they were confronted with the power of
God around about me in this church and
their power that could not subdue the
power of God
so as oh the blood of Jesus began to be
sung these spirits who were guised as
good spirits now were exposed as evil
spirits and were tormented by the
singing of the blood suddenly they began
I can only cover like bouncing off my
cranium I could feel this pressure said
in my head and you could hear him
screaming you’re never going to change
you belong to us and I was sitting in
this church thinking as I was feeling
like I was going crazy and I’ve always
explained to given my piss timoni
nationally and internationally that it
was as if the back of my head was
something was holding me like this and I
couldn’t move my head said it was like
they were holding my head lacked in this
position as they began to scream in
torment well when they stopped it was
almost like those spirits in silent when
the music’s that was subdued for a
moment and my will which we talked about
a minute ago in hypnosis broke out and I
was able to make a choice of what I
wanted to do in this human life to find
out about this guy Jesus or to continue
in the lifestyle that I was in in
psychic spiritualism let’s find out
about what happened when she chose God
rather than the demonic and you see the
counterfeit of the demonic is a
counterfeit of something authentic wait
till you hear the miracles that happen
next
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we will return to it’s supernatural
right after this sit rock again back
with Carol Kornacki and what you heard
you think that was sensational
well as the line goes you ain’t heard
anything yet Carol there is a difference
between the counterfeit and the real
thing there were people listening to us
watching us that said power sounds good
I want that but then they heard the
repercussion of of you know they don’t
play fair and once they use you they
throw you away tell me about the real
thing an excellent point they throw you
away after that experience in this
particular church at that particular
time I thought what is this great
supernatural power that subdued the
power in me I’m a practicing witch I
have power and yet these Christians
so-called Christians are singing a song
about this Jesus and I can’t overcome
him I’m not greater in my power than
they are I want to know and so I made a
choice that day I yielded my will to
coming to know the man Jesus Christ the
risen Lord and his supernatural power
was it greater than the power I was
involved
could it outdo the supernatural power I
had learned why didn’t you use your
power to get rid of your hepatitis
because I wasn’t able to do that I
wasn’t able to come into a human that
hepatitis was killing me
and that’s one thing said all the
incantations and all the junk in all the
candle burning I worked it could not
heal me and there was a doctor in
America that could do anything for that
liver that supernatural power was going
to have to be something greater because
not only did I have a rotten liver I had
a rotten heart and a rotten mind and
something very great very powerful above
the power of what I was experienced it
had come into my life and so I came to
know this Jesus instantly instantly and
I have medical records the liver was
transformed and healed completely
instantly I experienced supernatural
miraculous power blood inside my belly
from bleeding ulcers I used to vomit up
that look like coffee grounds I said
that’s blood coming
out of your belly was absolutely healed
medical reports doctors were baffled
suddenly a mind that psychiatrists and
drugs and and pills couldn’t change
supernatural power in the name of Jesus
began to come in and reconstruct my
thinking into normal okay human thinking
I remember a little girl that a father
or mother didn’t have the ability to
Huck I remember a little girl that was
involved in incest I remember a little
girl that would have to clean up the
mess that her mother made when she beat
her husband violently with blood flowing
I remember a little girl whose father
tried to poison her I remember a young
woman that was looking for love and got
nothing but abortions what Oh No world
could you explain you experience love
now what’s going through traumas like
that don’t you no psychiatrist couldn’t
even help you not at all if God thought
we needed a psychiatrist said he
would’ve said to psychiatrists but we
don’t need a psychiatrist we need a
Savior so that’s what he said and that’s
who came into my life how are you
changed I found a love that you don’t
find for 15 minutes in a strange bed I
found a love that you don’t find in
witchcraft spiritualism or demons inside
your mind or spirit guides I found a
love that you don’t find anywhere but in
a man named Jesus Christ a supernatural
power said that can go into a broken
heart like you just described in my life
that she just described to your audience
that little girl that’s what Jesus saw
he saw this little broken girl just as
you just described her and by the
supernatural power that we’ve been
talking about he reached into a broken
heart because for 17 eluc says he came
to heal the brokenhearted and he took
that little shattered broken heart that
little seven-year-old who was being
molested that little 8 year old that was
being beaten and broken and thrown away
that scarred tissue in the body and womb
of that girl me the girl we’re talking
about he reached in and took that heart
and began to reform it and recreate a
heart of flesh and supernaturally only
said supernatural power that is above
the supernatural power the psychics we
talked about above the supernatural
power of witchcraft and light
candles and chanting junk and collecting
little objects and put them in a bag
like it didn’t all that garbage of
witchcraft a pure power a power so
powerful that a spirit called the holy
spirit that opened up a grave and raised
up God’s Son that flowed over the the
waters of the deep in Genesis and God
said let there be light in the same
spirit move that spirit that holy spirit
and a multitude of spirit guides it’s
got a 50 of them to do anything one
spirit came into my human spirit
enlightened it with supernatural power
healed my body healed my heart restored
my mind the rest is nothing but a game
you don’t get anything out of that
people really believe that psychics can
change their life SID you give your
future to some girl sitting on a
telephone or somebody sitting over tea
leaves and you let them command your
life a human being that’s full of air by
looking at a bunch of plastic and paper
cards
why not look up to the creator of all
things and understand a supernatural
power that can change your life maybe
you were never a witch maybe you were
never an adulterer maybe you were never
had a life like mine I had a wonderful
home life but something inside of you
just like me Sid needed a super natural
power not a bunch of courage you buy in
a store not some woman who sits there
and guesses your life not a bunch of
candles because they’re red or blue
they’re going to do something wonderful
not a bunch of Matra chants or God is in
the water and a chair I’m sitting on I’m
talking about the Holy Spirit the power
supernatural miracle working power that
your program is all about when a
supernatural power of God changes a life
you’re mean in the body example give me
one example you told me about an
experience where you were on an airplane
and God spoke to you about that little
girl that was a strangest thing said I’m
flying to minister to pastor Tommy weeds
gentlemen you’re aware of a great pastor
up in Buffalo New York and I’m on a
plane there’s a little girl next to me
five years old her name’s Sally she’s
flying from Virginia to Buffalo New York
she has got divorced parents her daddy’s
in Virginia she’s gone to her mother in
Buffalo they sit me next to her I’m
sitting next to this five year old she
has a hearing aid in her ear she’s
playing that little five year olds out
she’s playing and talking
plan and I’m looking and suddenly I hear
this voice only it wasn’t one of those
weird voices I heard in spiritualism it
was a voice that came from within a pure
voice that stands strong and powerful
and said to me if you pray for her
I’ll heal her well I’ve come to know the
voice of my Shepard I knew it was Jesus
speaking to me through the Holy Spirit
so I thought God on an airplane but all
these people I’m going to pray for this
little girl with a hearing aid he said
it to me against it he said if you pray
for this little girl I’ll healer I’ll
show you my power in the most remote
place well I was nervous said I want to
be honest with your watching audience
because there was stewardesses walking
back and forth when I spoke to Sally and
talked about her getting healed by Jesus
she started talking on like Jesus is
gone a year she’s a little girl
so the stewardess came up like I was a
religious fanatic and kind of checked on
us right protect her yes exactly so I
thought what am I going to do Lord so I
said I’m doing all day that’s what I’m
going to do I’m going to see the
supernatural power of the
miracle-working power of God work in
this little girl so I leaned over nice
and Sally Jesus Christ is going to heal
you well I had a little Baptist girl
sitting on this side of me
she was looking over beautiful little
dark-skinned girl she’s looking over
thinking this woman’s nuts so I just
obeyed God sit I just leaned over and
began to rebuke that spirit of infirmity
in her ear just tell that spirit to
loose her in the name of Jesus and then
ask God to heal the area that that
spirit of infirmity had destroyed inside
her here well in an instant I was just
sitting I’ll never forget this I said
lord if it happened would you show me
please show me Lord it isn’t that I’m a
doubter but please show me so I looked
over at Sally the little girl nice and
Sally and she started digging in her ear
what happened was God healed her and my
voice was amplified so it was irritated
so Sid she pulled her ear thing out and
glazed onto a sucker’s wrong with that
her hearing aid well the stewardess
comes running like what are you doing
and I was like I just and she goes it’s
bothering me so as it’s laying out and
the stewardess goes to serve coffee I
leaned over to that deaf ear Sally can
you hear and she looked up at me with
those beautiful brown eyes and she said
yes I can hear you she never needed the
hearing aid again when I got off Sid I
wanted to stand up and pick her up and
hold her above my head and say to a
plane
people behold the god I serve behold
the God we serve some of you are hurting
bad and that’s why you’re viewing us
right now and I tell you there’s only
one answer repent of sin yes I have
sinned I’ve violated just about every
one of the Ten Commandments stealing
lying adultery anything you can name and
you know what everyone has you must
repent of sin and believe that Jesus
died for your sins and make him Lord and
Savior there is no other way there’s no
other name given unto men in which we
must be saved
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