I Heard Jesus Knocking. What I Heard Next Blew Me Away…

my guest the daughter of Kenneth and

Gloria copelan saw firsthand how the

word of God triggers healing and

miracles she says she had a great

Foundation then God began adding the

supernatural

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next welcome Holy Spirit you are so

welcome in this place we’re so glad your

presence is here and all things are

possible in the presence of God my guest

Kelly copelan the daughter of Kenneth

and Gloria copelan had a front row seat

observing Word of Faith teaching Kelly

wasn’t satisfied she knew there had to

be even more Kelly tell me what your

life was like at home my parents I just

have to just praise and bless God for

putting me in their household because I

grew up with such a foundation of the

word of faith in his word the Integrity

said of the word of God that if his word

says it then we shape our life like that

we live like that we breathe like that

and then we receive what he said about

us by faith and then put that in our

mouth you have no idea how blessed you

are because I I had to be 30 before I

even knew who Jesus was and but most

Christians they don’t have a foundation

like that it it gave me such a firm

foundation of my identity in Christ my

identity in him my you know because this

is whatever this says is who we are well

that that gave me and and you asked me

about my parents we lived his word

breathed his word there’s nothing else

give me one example you remember as a

young person at home uh that had really

impressed you as a young person well you

know when your kids ask you for

something and it’s a little out of the

price range it’s a little out of the

budget you know I remember I wanted a

boat so my dad said you guys need to

believe God for that I was six my

brother was four we wrote out some IND

discernable agreement with God and stuck

it on the fridge because Dad said that’s

your faith project and then I wanted a

horse he’s like well he didn’t say no we

don’t have a place to keep it and my

point is that he never said no it didn’t

matter what the budget was that’s a

great faith project we’ll agree with you

and when we would set our faith find a

scripture we’d have to find a scripture

we’d write it out Heavenly Father we

believe we receive a boat the perfect

boat and so two weeks went by and this

man and he didn’t have it one like he

was out telling people that nobody knew

that but our little family

nobody even barely knew who he was but

this man called and he said brother

copelan I’m so sorry I I God’s been on

me for two weeks to give you my fishing

boat so this man gave us his fishing

boat but then this a few days later this

other man calls and he said brother

copelan God’s been on me about giving

you my cabin cruiser little Lake cabin

cruiser now I’m six my brother’s four

and

dad was like Lord two boats and the Lord

said go look at their agreement and so

it said the perfect boat and so my dad

said to us what were you thinking what

is the perfect boat we want you out on

the lake um so nobody can find you we

want to spend the night out there we

want to ski we want to fish and we want

to do this and the Lord told him that

took two

boats but that’s just how I thought what

life was and it really is that simp

simple we mess it up but um that was my

life but you have to stay like a little

child even as you become an adult in

your belief in God’s goodness but that’s

hard when you become adult when you

start getting hit smacked you went

through a whole lot of traumas and

trials in your life did I did but I I

kept and I have always kept that

assurity maybe because the word is so

firm in my life I think I’ve gained so

much about the spirit and his presence

and his comfort and his love and some of

those things that I didn’t have in my

emotional space but the authority that I

had knowing the word if people you know

if you are not sure about what God has

for you or what he bought and paid for

for you dig into his written word and

get that it’s really legal it becomes so

legal like that’s mine and so I had been

through you know

divorce um and it kind of hit me really

sideways because nobody ever had been

ugly to me I just had this great life

where my prayers get answered and my

things I stick on the fridge get

done but you you said something when you

said I I wanted more if I could be

honest with you said I didn’t know I

didn’t think about there being more I

mean if you said is do you have all of

God is there more everybody would say of

course there’s more but how how we

behave how we are hungry or not hungry

for

more it’s more about how we’re behaving

than what we think we know I I tell you

when I thought there must be more is

when I was laying face down trauma hurt

the middle of a

divorce I knew I had to have

more when all my prayers were answered

and things were great I didn’t really

think about

more but I cried out to the Lord said

and I just said I remember just I’m

balling CU I was so hurt and I said I

think there’s something wrong with my

soul some something in my emotions or

something and I don’t know anything

about that because my life of Faith made

me strong especially I think in my mind

and my will my mind was set on the word

I think that made my will strong but in

my emotions were in an effort to just

believe this and not be led by

emotions I would just push my emotions

aside and just say no I’m living this

and that did work for many years he will

show us and of course there’s something

wrong with us cuz we don’t have it all

and like a little child he looked at me

in the eyes I’m going to look at you

like that he said I’m going to send you

people to listen to too I felt like a

kindergartner and I need you to listen

to them not for what they don’t know

that you know I need you to listen to

them for what they know that you don’t

know and when he said it said I thought

that seems so obvious how are we ever

going to learn anything if we’re not

willing to hear something we don’t

already know and so he did that he

started sending me people I started

listening to you I started listening to

this person this person this person and

it would re it would repair the places

of error because it was something I

didn’t know and it would get rid of the

lie that the enemy had planted and it

began to make me stronger and stronger

and that’s how I saw what God was doing

too he began to show me the strategy of

bringing the groups of the body of

Christ together see I saw it in 1

Corinthians chapter 12 that is the

chapter where it talks about receiving

from each other the gifts everything in

you I receive you’ve already changed my

life and and then chapter 13 is about

giving to each other of what’s in your

gift and that is how we will come to the

place where Satan has no foothold in us

what did you learn what was the first

step to get rid of these um emotions

that were crippled a lot of the things I

could talk about now I look back and see

what God did and I he’s taught me about

the soul so the but he did tell me he

said you have given Satan real estate

that made me

mad I’m like no no no no no those lies

the lies in our soul not our spirit our

spirit is renewed but our mind we know

it has to be transformed we by the

renewing of our mind our insides are

transformed our life is transformed so

when he said that I realized there were

lies planted and the the root lie the

abandonment I was not even 3 years old

old and not that’s a long kind of story

but we were in a car wreck and that the

Lord had to show me as an adult in all

of this trouble he showed me where that

abandonment had come in during that car

wreck and my family almost died but God

but it looked like I was okay but Satan

had told me a lie that I was abandoned

so all the behaviors of that went with

me into adulthood even though I wasn’t

so that’s the way our emotions so you

were you were you were helped with the

word of God but you were sabotaged

through your emotions is that right way

to say that’s right they’re immature we

all have a place I believe this is what

God is refining right now we have this

place where we don’t know something and

that’s where Satan is going to come in

at you he wasn’t coming at me where I

knew he wasn’t coming at me where I was

strong and God didn’t make me weak he

just didn’t give me all the I don’t have

everything of him operating in my all

the truth about Jesus is

fast and those weak places he’s here to

restore remove stuff like the sycamine

tree he said they were talking about

bitterness and unforgiveness and they

said say to the sycamine tree be plucked

up and that’s what he showed me that day

when he when I saw that about the

abandonment was in a service when he

literally talked to my and he said

that’s where my dad was telling the

story of the wreck and he said that’s

where abandonment came in and so I in

that moment I I didn’t know what I was

doing until later I looked back on it

and God taught me that we can do this I

said that’s a lie and I said abandonment

I speak to you and I command that lie to

be gone like the plucking up but then

the word talks about when you say say to

the mountain be removed you have to put

the word in there so the Lord showed me

and what I did that day and the Lord

showed me later was I began to speak the

word that’s not the truth the

abandonment is not true the truth is I

do have a good Earthly father who would

never abandon me but and he never did

but I have a heavenly father who would

never abandon me so when we put the

truth in that hole if you had an Earthly

father that would have or did abandon in

you the truth is higher than the Earthly

father it’s your heavenly father but

those those those things those are the

those lies are the things that create

double-mindedness that the Bible talks

about we want this our conscious mind is

believing this but somewhere in there

it’s saying God has abandoned you or

you’re abandoned or you’re not loved so

when we remove that and we put the truth

in there it goes down as deep and as far

back as that origin lie does but in that

moment

God let me see that I had space that was

taken up in my emotions with something

that was not from him and he began to

deliver me and when he removed the

abandonment and things out of my life I

had more room for him so it wasn’t just

that I got rid of the what was of Satan

in my emotions but he filled that space

he filled that up with himself I really

think that is a supernatural process but

I’m met the

supernatural when he began waking me up

I mean the fact that said that he would

talk to us personally that’s so

Supernatural when we return Kelly will

explain how the Messiah began waking her

with messages that Drew her into

intimate relationship with God be right

back I started in my Christian Life with

these words but you know these words

should lead to these words growing up as

the daughter of Kenneth and Gloria

copelan I grew up in the word my parents

stood on the shoulders of Oral Roberts

Kenneth haagens and they learn and they

grew and they began to teach people to

walk and live by faith in God’s word

I’ve watched them live that out and that

was such a powerful thing as a child you

know it just was how you think you just

think trust God you just think if you

have a need or if you have even a desire

you go to the Lord for it so I grew up

trusting in the Lord looking to him for

everything he was everything to me but

there came this part of my life where I

cried out because I knew I needed more I

needed more than my household that I

grown up in or everything that I had

learned which was great there were

places in my heart that that I didn’t

know where Satan had planted trauma over

the years I had trouble in relationships

married right out of high school and

quickly divorced and then married and

then divorced and then married you know

in many circles that just disqualifies

you from walking and living with the

Lord or being called to Ministry that is

a lie when you have trouble and pain you

have an opportunity for Jesus to meet

you at a deeper place than you’ve ever

known him and I’ve been through a lot of

hard things in my life but he’s so

faithful and every time the enemy would

come Jesus would meet me there and I’d

get stronger in my life people have seen

more of Jesus on my life in my pain I

think than they ever did when my life

was presented like I had no problems

maybe you’ve got stuff in your life you

don’t even know the source of it but

this things aren’t working your faith

isn’t working your life isn’t working

open your heart you’re going to hear his

voice he met me in the place of fault

like San andrees where everything looks

great on the surface this was my life

everything looked awesome on the surface

but then this shift down in my mind will

and emotions particularly my emotions

and everything on the surface tore up

but in that place I met him like I never

had known him in that broken

place

we now return to its

Supernatural what caused the I think

he’s speaking to me to really feeling

you’re hearing clearly was there

anything that triggered that well just a

hunger like I IID always wanted to be

that person who would get up early and

have the hour my mom was like that her I

mean she’d get up no matter what time

she had to get up she was up an hour

early to be with the Lord and I always

wanted to be that person and I would

just not like have it in me sometimes

you know lots that four kids at home

little kids all at the same time and so

As I Grew Older and in this time of

hurting that the Lord was share changing

me and changing me from the inside out I

just wanted to spend time with them but

I just to be honest I wasn’t making the

quality decision my dad talks about a

quality decision that you make and you

don’t turn back from it I love that but

it was not in me in the moment and so I

just gave the Lord this very weak

invitation and he took it and I said

Lord I have to get up at 6 so I’d set my

clock for 6 not earlier I’d say I have

to get up at 6 but you can wake me up

earlier if you want to and I just

started saying that two weeks I said

that and after two weeks he woke me up

and I had been hearing knocking at the

door I’d get get up and go to the door

nobody was there i’ go back to bed in

the middle of the night I’d hear

knocking and on about the fourth time I

was like that’s you I feel like Samuel

that’s you you are literally knocking on

the door of the church I guess it was

like Revelation was happening to me now

tell me a few things when he woke you up

what he said well that one day I went in

there and I was concerned over something

that was coming up and just uh

been talking to him about that but I

still had this reservation and some fear

in me about a situation and he started

talking to me about that I got up that

morning I went into the living room and

I sat down and I got my piece my journal

and paper I never pen I’d never really

done this kind of journaling but he was

talking to me so quickly so like I it

was Stern but loving and factual and

like very tutorial almost and but yet

inviting and he started talking to me

about the throne room and it was long

and I put these conversations that I had

with him cuz I wrote them down and then

I wrote what I said down and I put some

of those in this book and I had to

divide it into three I thought it was a

lot he talked to me about that I had not

been in the court inner Court he said

you’ve been in the outer court and he

talked to me about ju he said then he

said I will invite you you will not go

into the uh father’s presence into the

throne room but with me but I will lead

you in there and he said and I will

share with you the protocol of the court

it’s always love he talked to him about

the throne room he t uh he talked to me

about the trip that I was supposed to

make that I was concerned about he gave

me the words of mission he said I want

you to go on my behalf I no longer had

fear about it so he talked to me about

strategy he talked talked to me about me

he talked to me about my identity and I

can even look back on that now and see

more there was so much in there he was

prophesying and telling me I didn’t

understand I just knew I was shaking by

the time he got done um with that

encounter and it made me want to come

back and so my encounters I call them

encounters um with him got the days

between got shorter and shorter where I

just had to go back and I had to go back

and I had to hear from him then one day

I was saying Lord I’m so sorry that I

have not been with you this week he goes

are you kidding we’ve talked all day

every day I just wasn’t sitting on my

couch anymore it had become his presence

with me had become just so natural that

I even said excuse me in the house by

myself when I

sneezed it seems so simple what’s your

saying most people would say well that

never happened to me am I Swiss cheese

give get look in the camera and give him

some advice so it will happen to them

you heard how wimpy my invitation to him

was you give him a little crack and you

know honestly I guess I really my heart

cracked open as I was hitting the floor

in my trauma but those weak places that

we like to hide from God are the very

open doors that he can come into our

heart and come into our life and fill us

with himself removing the garbage out of

our mind will and emotions that are

there and it just it’s just a crack that

he needs it’s just a moment of I need

more I’m ready to learn I’m ready to see

you I’m ready for you to heal me I do

believe um Sid that we are in that time

of the Bible calls it

shaking um Jesus told Peter Satan’s

tried to trying to sift you so I see it

as such a dual thing like Satan wants us

Satan wants to us to think think he’s

got us in a Wilderness time we can’t get

out of there’s a sifting that Satan

wants to do in our life he wants to

shake us up he wants to mess us up but

on the other hand God is shaking us

shaking loose from everything that’s not

him he is uh sifting what’s of the enemy

out of us so my point in all that is we

just need to get our eyes on him and

what he’s doing and get our eyes off of

what we see the enemy is do doing and

let him take us into that Wilderness he

wants us in a Wilderness not to be hurt

he wants us to talk he wants to talk to

us in the wild if you look at all the

places of wilderness in the Bible like

Jesus went in the wilderness the

children of Israel went in the

wilderness Hosea and Hosea that’s a huge

part of the

Wilderness to talk to them and that can

I talk about that that please I want to

just read that scripture to you because

it says therefore behold this is Hosea I

will Allure her bring her into the

Wilderness and speak kindly to her if

that doesn’t describe what he did for me

and he says it’s so simple he’s making

the invitation he’s aluring you right

now and it says um I will then return

her Vineyards to her and transform the

valley of trouble into a Gateway of

hope that’s on him not me there are

people watching right now that are

smiling on the outside and crying on the

inside first thing you have to do very

first is have your own experience with

God not Kelly’s that’s not mine not my

guest your own experience with God he

loves you as much as any guest you’ve

ever seen on my show or any other as

anyone that’s ever lived I want you to

repeat out loud this prayer and mean it

to the best of your ability dear God

dear God God I’ve made many mistakes in

my life I’ve made many mistakes in my

life for which I’m so sorry for which

I’m so

sorry God I command in Jesus name God I

command in Jesus name the fear that has

come into my life

fear as of this second as of this second

it goes in Jesus

name I ask you Jesus I ask you Jesus to

live inside of me to live inside of Me

Be My Savior and my Lord be my savior

and my Lord I love you Lord I love you

Lord give me my own experience with you

my own experience with you amen amen

Kelly there’s so much that God has put

into you so much much you can help

people

with I want you to pray for the people

watching that are hurting like you

hurt to be as healed as you are going

through right now well right now I just

want you to position yourself for that

our positioning for him to minister to

us and heal us is not one of begging

it’s not one of striving it’s one of

Simplicity that place of the Wilderness

it just mean that word Wilderness even

means a place to feed your flocks like a

pasture so I want you to just lay down

like there’s such a fire on me right now

there’s such a fire on in your room

right now and and that fire of God is

just like you can sense his presence

right now and I want you to just kind of

lay down on the inside and just say all

right Jesus you are my shepherd be my

shepherd Lord I just thank you for the

people right now that are ready to lay

down every everything they are at your

feet everything they are good at

everything they’re not good at

everything they have going on that’s

wonderful in their life and every place

of hurting or shame or trauma or

disappointment all of that sickness lack

we just lay it at your feet right now

and we invite you to speak to us we

invite you to Shepherd us we invite

you and we give give you as you said in

in the beginning of your ministry on

Earth and then in Revelation you made it

clear if any have ears to hear Let Him

hear we

receive your words and we give you a

hearing

ear and I thank you Lord Jesus just pray

this with me thank you Lord Jesus for

taking my life taking my life and

shepherding me shepher me unto life in

you

in Jesus name in Jesus name thank you

Lord have you ever heard knocking if

you’ve been hearing knocking he’s

calling your name he’s trying to wake

you up and he woke me up to the reality

of a relationship with him that was not

just based on scripture but based on

he’s my shepherd and being shepherded is

everything being led you were made need

to hear from him he is our perfect

messenger from the father so what is it

for us is just to present him an ear to

hear you know in that time for me um I

didn’t know what I needed it got harder

to hear get prayers answered and it

seemed like I was shook by this and

shook by that and I believe that you

could say the same thing and I’ve

written a book about what he wanted to

say to you there prompts in here for you

to open up your heart because opening

your heart to him is the open door for

him to come in and talk to you opening

my heart up to hear him talk about

me you just get Freer and Freer and

people begin to see him on your life

unless how good you’re managing your

faith walk the body of Christ has spent

thousands of years digging down into the

things of the Lord bringing us together

we have to make room for more that’s why

we have to look at him to know who we

are today and as we converge the

messages of the word and the spirit it’s

like

converging our identity of who he is in

us and who we are in him this is

something that the world has never seen

this is the greater glory that is

literally being unveiled in the earth is

first being unbelled in

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