There is a role unique to women that we abandon easily. We live near each other, but not with each other–and not for each other. We don’t want to intrude or judge and maybe, we don’t want to see each other truly succeed. And the world is happy with this unhappy state for women–one that pushes us to conform to a pattern of distrust, disengagement, and competition. It’s no wonder we’ve lost ourselves and our way.
I love what I see God doing here at Zeal
church and why would anybody want to be
anywhere else I’ve I was in Fort Myers
Florida yesterday morning speaking
hopped on a plane got here at about 10
o’clock last night which would be 12
o’clock midnight Fort Myers time and I
fly out to Orange County tomorrow but I
drank five shots of espresso so I am
here I am present I am with you guys I
can totally do this so excited I’ve seen
some beautiful friends of ours Lisa and
Dr Doug Weiss and their beautiful family
I I know there’s a lot of you that are
here and I just it’s so I want to hug
all of you so find me after service I am
going to show you my family because it
has been growing a lot so go ahead and
throw those cute boys up here okay
Alexander Hallelujah is engaged
Alexander yeah he’s marrying an
Australian we imported we imported so
there’s Alexander there is Austin and
Jessica they’re going to be her next
service Arden and Christian and they are
expecting their first baby and a July
they’re having a boy so we’re going to
be equal now we’re going to have three
grandsons and three granddaughters
they’re sweet Lizzy Sophia hugging my
husband of 40 years this October John
bevere
Addison and Julie they know and love you
guys they’re beautiful children they are
amazing they send their love I talked to
Addison this morning he called me for
Mother’s Day love and then we have
Scarlett I have another grandchild there
she is
Scarlett is so fat they do not expect
her to ever crawl uh just took her to
the pediatrician she’s nine months she’s
like she’s not crawling I mean we’ve put
things under her stomach to try to get
her to roll forward and she’s like no
but if you saw her thighs you would
understand she can’t lift that she just
can’t yeah she’s she’s amazing she has
two faces her resting face is a judgy
face yeah there she’s she just judges
like why should I smile and then she has
a happy face but that is Scarlett I love
her so much I love being a mother I love
being a grandmother and I’m just going
to tell you I love being a godmother to
Octavia and Brandon and you think what
is a godmother well a godmother is when
you get a sicilian on your side so I
have dual citizenship uh my husband is
Italian but I am Sicilian and I have
dual citizenship so I just kind of
capitalize on the whole Sicilian theme I
do want to talk about a couple books
because I know some of you guys forgot
to buy a Mother’s Day gift for your wife
okay I just launched a devotional
Tuesday hasn’t even been out a week and
it’s called fiercely loved God’s wild
thoughts about you how many of you know
it is time you change the way you think
God is thinking about you
God is not thinking thoughts to
disqualify you to distance you to
disengage from you God has good thoughts
treasured thoughts precious thoughts
this is what David had a revelation of
in the wilderness in Psalm 139 he wrote
how precious are your thoughts about me
about me oh God they cannot be numbered
I can’t even count them they outnumber
the grains of sand and when I wake up
you are still with me what does that
tell us that tells us that God has
treasured precious good thoughts towards
you and they’re innumerable innumerable
but it’s not just that it’s constant
it’s constant and so we need to change
the way that we think God is looking at
us because when we change the way we
think God is looking at us we change the
way we look at everybody else how many
of you know we got a lot of meanness
going on in the body of Christ
yeah because when people feel judged
they judge
and so we need to be a people who
understand
that God wasn’t this angry God in the
Old Testament who sent his son to die
for us and Jesus is like please be nice
to them please change your mind no he
sent his son to reveal his heart and so
God is for us and so it is the goodness
and the kindness of God that leads us to
repentance kindness is not an
endorsement of sin it is a doorway and
so we need to start being kind in the
body of Christ and we need to start with
each other I’m going to be preaching to
you out of godmothers but I added
something in earlier this morning
because I feel like God is doing
something something significant here
and so I want to open up from the
passage John Chapter 2 verses 1 through
10. it’s the wedding at Canaan it says
the next day there was a wedding
celebration in the village of Canaan and
Galilee Jesus’s mother was there and
Jesus and his disciples were also
invited to the Celebration the wine
supply ran out during the festivities so
Jesus’s mother told him they have no
more wine dear woman that’s not our
problem Jesus replied my time has not
yet come but his mother told the
servants do whatever he tells you
standing nearby were six Stone water
jars used for Jewish ceremonial Clint
washing each could hold 20 to 30 gallons
Jesus told the servants fill the jars
with water when the jars had been filled
he said now dip some out and take it to
the Master of Ceremonies so the servants
followed his instructions when the
master of ceremony he’s tasted the water
that was now wine not knowing where it
had come from though of course the
servants knew because God always lets
his servants know what’s going on he
called the bridegroom over a host
usually serves the best wine first he
said then when everyone has had a lot to
drink he brings out the less expensive
wine but you have kept the best until
now
I love this city
and I have been in the city
for decades
I still have a place in the city I still
have an office in this city
but I am here to tell you that God has
saved his best
for now
and I am here as a Mama telling you it
is time it is time for us to stop
calling water wine it is time for us to
do whatever the master tells us to do
I read this scripture and I remember my
boys the first time they read it they
used it as an excuse to call me woman
they’re like hey woman woman and they’re
like Jesus calls his mom woman I’m like
you’re not Jesus you’re not Jesus Jesus
wants to call me woman that’s fine you
call me Mom you call me Mom and it’s
interesting that Mary saw lack
and spoke to her son and said hey hey
they’re out
they’re out
and he was like hey it’s not my time
okay
mamas no time
and you often won’t know timing until
you become a mom I remember when I was
pregnant with my first son they didn’t
do sonograms back then it was like hit
and miss you didn’t know what you’re
gonna have when you were gonna have it
how much it was going to weigh you were
living in a constant state of confusion
and I remember as I got more
uncomfortable I was like I I think I’m
further along I think I’m nine months I
was claiming nine months at seven and a
half months and my doctor was like I
don’t think I don’t think you’re that
far along
but things get uncomfortable
when it’s time
and I remember going to the doctor’s
office and I was two weeks past due I
thought I am never going to go into
labor and he said you probably aren’t
we’re going to induce you tomorrow and I
went into this induction in Dallas Texas
now I need to paint a little bit of a
picture for you in Dallas
when I found out I was gonna have a baby
the next day I went and got a French
manicure
yeah that’s what you do in Dallas and
then I also I also had blonde hair back
then why anyone who looks like an Arab
would have blonde hair I’m not sure why
I did that but I went I had my
highlights done I had my French manicure
I got up from my induction showed up
full-on jewelry full on makeup all the
nurses looked at me went into a huddle
they’re like I’m not taking her she has
no idea what she is here for
and a mean a mean grumpy nurse came out
and she was like take off all your
jewelry stop smiling get in there strip
down put on that that gown that exposes
your backside and get ready to hurts I
mean this lady was so mad and that she
checks me and she tells me you shouldn’t
even be here you’re going to be an
induced and you’re going to be laboring
all day and I’m gonna go home tonight
and I’m gonna sleep and I’m gonna come
back and tomorrow morning you’re going
to still be here I remember looking at
John and saying get her out of the room
and I was like let’s be Christians I’m
like I don’t want to be a Christian
right now I want to have a baby
12 hours of Agony with the mean nurse
but after 12 hours something happened
a shift changed and a new nurse came
along and she looked at my chart where
my contractions were not even
registering anymore they were a minute
and a half long and 30 seconds in
between them she looked at me and said
baby we’re going to make it so it
doesn’t hurt anymore at that point I
sold out my husband the one I had made
promises like you have to promise no
matter how I beg for an epidural say no
say no and I was like he wouldn’t let me
get an epidural she’s like
sir sir you’re gonna have to leave the
room why
holding the nurse I thought we were
going to be friends after my labor I
thought she was going to call me and ask
me to lunch I remember saying good can
you just hold me while they do and she
was like absolutely I had Addison an
hour and a half later
why
because when women are in the company of
evil midwives they don’t bring forth
babies
but God is saying to you the shift has
changed and you are in the company of
women who want to see your pain have
purpose they want to see what is in you
be brought forth
God is waking up the heart of mothers
mothers see we got mentors
mentors are good but mentors tend to
reproduce themselves
mothers don’t reproduce themselves each
and every one of my pregnancies I said
oh God nothing like me please nothing
like me nothing I want new and proved
version I don’t want my children to make
my same mistakes I don’t want them to
live with my fears and my failures
every one of my kids I wanted to go
further and farther I remember God
saying to me Lisa your children won’t
inherit one of two things either my
promises or your fears you need to face
off what your limitations so it doesn’t
come on the Next Generation see mamas
will bless other people in the very
areas that they were only cursed mamas
will Speak Life where other people only
spoke death why because mothers have the
ability to see it now and in the future
oh it’s so true I’m gonna see my second
born son the next service oh but I can
still see him as a two-year-old I still
see him riding a horse this little
plastic horse yelling to Integrity music
Rejoice Africa there’s no one like God
no one like God yelling in his Mickey
Mouse underwear and then one day coming
down and say why does no one like
oh see those are moments that are woven
and our lives as mothers
because of the Redemption of God and our
family I have four
sons who love God with all of their
heart and are living better lives than
John and I and I had somebody ask me
okay tell me your prayers
and I said you know
I let John cover the prayer part
and I covered the training part
you have to train your children
you have to understand mamas
you are not their maid
you are their mother
not long after we moved to Colorado I
remember having a revelation that my
boys didn’t really care about me doing
their laundry I would wash it fold it
put it on their bed all they had to do
was move it off the bed put it in a
dresser but no no that was too hard they
had to they had to like put it in with
dirty clothes and throw it into the
hamper and bury it I would find buried
clean clothes among crunchy socks guys
how do you do that how do you make your
socks I’ve never had crunchy socks in my
entire life and so I remember my boys
came home from school and the psycho mom
had dumped all of the clothes in uh in a
like the center of the room and I said
guys
I forgot I’m not your maid I’m Your
Mother
I’m going to train you how to do laundry
right now I’m not going to have your
wives mad at me so many women so many
women are trying to train their husbands
and love their children we are called to
love our husbands and train our children
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because those kids leave one day and and
John bevere is living his best life
right now he has me all to himself he is
he is loving it okay so it’s time
and it’s time for The Mamas to wake up
it’s time for them to have a heart for
the daughters it’s time for them to have
a heart for the sons it’s time for them
to have a heart for their husbands and
you know I had an awareness very early
on uh it in my Christian walk that I was
going to be ministering to women and so
I tried to pick my hero I was like my
hero is not Esther I do not want to be a
concubine my hero my hero is Deborah
Deborah is the boss of the world Deborah
sits under a palm tree and judges people
I want to be Deborah oh some of you do
that on your toilet with your phone well
I wanted to sit under a palm tree and
judge people I was like she is the
prophetess and the judge highest
Spiritual Authority highest governmental
Authority yes Deborah but then I looked
at context and I found out that Deborah
became a judge after Israel had been
ruled 80 years by a guy named Ehud and
Ehud it said ruled them as a judge with
a cattle prod I don’t know what that
looks like and then the people are like
we’re scared we’re going to be obedient
to the Lord God bless them 80 years of
prosperity
but when he dies
the people went right back to where
their heart was
the cattle prod was gone and they’re
like remember how we used to set up
altars everywhere remember that sex
worship religion let’s go back to bow my
lock let’s go let’s go let’s go back to
that and God’s like really you guys are
going to do this again because if you
look at the children of Israel they obey
God He blesses them then they’re like no
I think this is all about us they go
away from God he sends oppressor they
cry out he rescues them they do the
whole pattern again and again and again
and if you and I could look at our lives
and we could look at the graph and the
pattern of Our Lives we might actually
find out that we do some of the same
things
Deborah inherited a people
oppressed and broken I begin to wonder
if maybe they said yeah sure what’s a
woman gonna do let them have a woman
judge in Judges chapter 4 verse 2 it
says and the Lord sold them into the
hand of jaben king of Canaan who reigned
in hazor the commander of his army was
cesra who lived and harassed her going
then the people of Israel cried out to
the Lord for help for he had 900
Chariots of iron and he oppressed the
people of Israel cruelly for 20 years
people of God do not do well in seasons
of prosperity
we actually do better in seasons of
hardship
struggle is strengthening
it is so what’s happening during this 20
years of Oppression well Israel was
devastated
discouraged isolated it says all the
trade routes were cut off so nothing was
coming in and nothing was going up It
also says that the people of Israel
wouldn’t even go out and work their own
Fields because they were afraid of being
attacked so they no longer had purpose
they are isolated and what happens when
people have no purpose and they’re
isolated oh we’re seeing it right now in
our culture in fighting in fighting
everybody attacking one another
everybody fighting with one another they
forget that the enemy is not in the
house they think that the enemy is in
the house but you and I know we don’t
wrestle with flesh and blood but with
principalities and powers and rulers of
wickedness and high places that exalt
themselves exalt themselves against us
knowing god
they begin to fight they begin to fight
and bigger what is going on in the body
of Christ right now I’m telling you I
want to spank everybody and hug them I
mean I’m like spank and then hug or hug
and then I don’t know which one needs to
happen I I turned on a Instagram today
and some guys like saying on the church
does this and the church does that and
the church wants people to commit
suicide I felt like saying and I want to
slap you because no there are some
people that are crazy but the Big C
Church of Jesus Christ is not that way
and the people that most people are
describing I don’t even know
I don’t even know
and you know what God is the one
cleaning up his bride he says he washes
her with the water of the word to evoke
her beauty we better not be caught
pulling up her skirt and show it her
mess
we need to actually speak the word we
need to prophesy the church that will be
instead of criticize the church that is
right now oh I get it there’s stuff
that’s going on that needs to be
addressed God is sifting and he is
shaking so that what cannot be shaken
will be established he is also shifting
and I don’t but but God begins to Spain
okay I’ll just tell the story we have we
have our fourth born he’s a baby that
means he was hardly ever spanked and I
remember John finally one day said Arden
you’re getting spanked and the other
three boys had Revival yay art is
getting spanked Arden’s getting spanked
Arden’s getting spanking down was like
well now I’m not going to spank him
I’m like what no he’s like because you
guys were all so happy
okay do you know God kind of does that
with his kids too yeah
you gotta you gotta humble of yourself
but God begins to judge we look at
ourselves
okay and if you feel like you’re
supposed to disengage from something
disengage from it don’t put on your
social media
because my Bible says I’m going to give
an account for Every Idle Word Every
Idle Word I’ve
been married 40 years I’ve been serving
God for 42 years and I’m going to tell
you there’s a lot of things I would have
died to defend that I don’t even believe
anymore so you want to be careful about
putting things out there that you can’t
take back because God doesn’t have a
delete button he remembers so we need to
be careful so infighting infighting we
can’t have that the body cannot attack
itself
we need to be one
one there’s things my husband and I
don’t even agree on but that doesn’t
mean we’re not one
so all of this different fighting going
on I don’t know what caused Deborah to
finally snap but there came a moment
where she was like that’s it it’s not
gonna work with me being a judge it’s
not going to work with me being a
prophetess I know for me when my boys
were young John would you know be
calling home from a Ministry trip and
I’m crazy woman with the kids and
they’re all yelling and screaming and I
put the phone against my chest and I
yelled at the boys when I get off this
phone I’m spanking everyone and Tom
would be like wait did you just say you
were spanking all of the boys I said yes
yeah you don’t get to talk about that
because you’re not here he said but are
you really going to do it
it’s like no I’m not really going to do
it he said so you’re lying to our
children I said yes I am light
to our children I don’t know if Deborah
just was like I’m spanking everyone I
don’t know what happened but the way the
new King James puts it is Village Life
ceased it ceased in Israel until I
Deborah arose a rose a mother in Israel
life had completely shut down
their communities were broken people
were afraid to dream afraid to live
afraid to Hope
but enough is enough the net says
warriors were scarce Now isn’t that
interesting it goes from village life
has cease to warriors were scarce
warriors were scarce they were scarce in
Israel until you arose Deborah until you
arose a motherly protector in Israel
do you know God talks about himself as a
motherly protector like a mama bear
robbed of its Cubs like a lioness I tear
your heart out now that’s not that’s not
talking about people
that’s talking about principalities
we don’t tear up people okay I just want
to be clear on that okay the ncv reads
there were no Warriors so now we’ve gone
from scarce Warriors to no Warriors
there were no Warriors in Israel until I
Deborah arose until I arose to be a
mother to Israel but this is my absolute
favorite version message paraphrase
Warriors became fat and sloppy no fight
left in them so they played video games
then you Deborah rose up you got up a
mother in Israel I don’t know if there
were no Warriors or just some fat guys
left over from covet but everything
changed when Deborah arose not a
prophetess not a judge a mother
because mothers often have this
connection with who is supposed to carry
it
do you remember we’ve got we’ve got
Jacob we got Esau
and Isaac like diesel
but Mama knew no it’s not Isa it’s Jacob
and Jacob’s going to go through a
hardship but he’s going to come out
after wrestling with God a prince so she
sends for a prince in Exile sentence
some men for Barack the son of a binith
from cadepsen of Tali and said to him
has not the Lord the god of Israel
commanded you go gather your men at
Mount Tabor taking ten thousand from the
people of naftali and the people of
Zebulon
I believe that God is asking us to begin
to has God not spoken to you
and you say well I don’t got ten
thousand okay I’m going to tell you
there is a word
and there is I love that this church is
founded on prayer because you don’t
understand what happens in the spirit
when the people of God all decide to say
the same thing when the people of God
gather it says nothing is impossible we
need to begin to prophesy not what is
but what could be but when she calls
this Prince out of Exile
do you know 20 years of Oppression
can do something to a man
he had forgotten who he was and he said
I’m not going to go unless you go with
me
and see
if I’ve been Deborah I would have said
excuse me do you know who you’re talking
to
I am the prophetess and I am the boss of
your world as the judge you do what I
tell you to do
but Deborah didn’t do that because
Deborah knows what true leaders do
true leaders don’t pull rank they lend
strength
she said all right
I’ll go with you
see sometimes we need the mamas to go
with the prince sometimes we need to go
together and then you all know it’s a
crazy mess we’ve got like chariot wheels
falling off and you know people like
slaughtering each other but I don’t want
to talk about JL and that mess
I want to talk about the intimate
connection between Earth and Heaven in
judges 5 verse 20 it says from the
heavens the Stars fought from their
courses they fought against cesra the
river kushan swept them away the age-old
river the river kishan march on my soul
be strong
march on my soul
be strong
do you know you can speak to your soul
no you guys you have to understand this
you can speak to your soul yeah David
said so
why are you downcast
oh why put your hope in God anytime you
put your hope in something that can be
taken from you
you are at risk of being downcast
we have to speak to our soul guys I just
finished going through menopause during
menopause there is a mean woman living
in your head she says things like punch
her husband in the face she says throw a
fit at the airlines I’m not worrying
about she says all sorts of things and
I’m like no evil woman you are not
taking me emotional hostage
you got to renew your mind you got to
know what God’s word is saying how many
of you know that we live in a time
period where a lot of things sound good
but feel wrong
you have to have the word of God to
discern or you are just going to live in
suspicion and fear and discernment isn’t
just about noting wrong things
discernment is the ability to see the
light in the distance in somebody else’s
life
I’m so thankful that people discern the
call of God on my life
when I did not look like I should be
called by God I’m so thankful that when
I said I don’t feel like I fit in
anywhere he said to me you were created
to begin not belong he said to me you
and John are the point of an arrow you
have to stay strong because you’re not
everything but you will take a lot of
the pressure but you have to not cave I
don’t know what God is saying to you but
I do know what you have to say to
yourself
be strong and of good courage for the
Lord your God is with you be strong and
of good courage for the Lord your God is
with you be strong and of good courage
for the Lord your God is with you
listen when I lived up a little bit
north I would tell my boys everybody
everybody get in the Suburban get in the
Serbian and they’d be like oh no are we
running errands how many errors are we
going to run how long are we going to be
gone Addison would please Mom please let
me just babysit I was like no last time
I let you babysit you put Alexander in a
dog crate you are not allowed to babysit
everybody get in the Suburban oh we
don’t love it we don’t love it and I’d
say I know the plans I have for you
plans for good and not for harm plans to
get you food and school supplies get in
the Suburban you guys how many of you
know that God is doing a new thing God
is doing a new thing and it looks
nothing like the old thing God is doing
a new thing and some of you are like
okay what’s going on and God says for I
know the plans I have for you you’re
like okay great tell them for I know the
plans I have for you okay when is the
plan for I know the plans I have for you
who is the plan with for I know the
plans I have for you that’s all he ever
says I’m just going to tell you that
right now
but you can either
argue complain fight cancel people
or you can get in the car and enjoy the
ride
God is doing something something
powerful strong strategic and it’s going
to take the old and the Young
it’s going to take the male and the
female
it’s going to take the mothers and the
fathers it’s going to take the sons of
the daughters
to prophesy and I believe as we begin to
prophesy we’re going to see signs and
wonders and miracles and I believe that
God wants it to be a corporate thing
not an exclusive individual thing I
believe that you and I are prophetic by
function of the timing of our birth so
can you stand to your feet I’m going to
pray a godmother prayer over all of you
I believe that God wants to release some
things I believe like Pastor Brandon
said there’s some mamas there’s some
mamas that you need to cry out you need
to cry out for what you carry and you
need to cry out for this next Generation
I want you to understand this is a house
that celebrates both men and women both
Mothers and Fathers and Sons and
Daughters this is a house where all ages
are welcome this is a house where you
can come to the table because God wants
to listen in on the conversations that
happen in this house and see for too
long we’ve just had conversations with
people that look like us think like us
talk like us live like us and God is
saying if you’re going to have the right
conversations with the right people they
need to be diverse and so this is a
house where conversations are welcome
but conversations that honor God honor
God and speak to Future all right
heavenly father I just thank you
that there is Sacred Space I just thank
you for release of your anointing to
prophesy father I thank you for an
impartation to stand on the earth and
release the Mandate of Heaven thy
kingdom come thy will be done as a
prophetic prayer and so father I thank
you that your kingdom is come and your
will is done on Earth as it is in heaven
and everybody agrees say amen and amen
it’s my privilege and my incredible
honor to bless this house bless your
families bless what God has begun begun