Discover how God will guide you every day so you have all you need, and will accomplish what needs to be done.
(Singing) I know my God
has made the way for
me. I know my God
has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: When the
challenges of life make
it difficult to make the
right choices, know that
God’s desire is that you
always walk in victory.
Today, Kenneth Copeland
teaches us how to do all
things by faith, next on the
Believer’s Voice of Victory.
KENNETH: Let’s go back here
and pick this up again.
John 16:13, “Howbeit when
he, the Spirit of truth, is
come, he will guide you
into all truth: for he shall
not speak of himself; but
whatsoever he shall hear, that
shall he speak.” I was–ha-ha.
I was in a situation where we
shall he speak.” I was–ha-ha.
I was in a situation where we
had–a deficit had grown
up in the television ministry
of $6 million. There was some
things that happened in there
that got crossways,
and–and–and that deficit just
kept growing. And then it got on
me. And I thought, “Dear Lord.”
I mean, you don’t hear–I’m
preaching “out of debt,” and
this thing has grown to $6
million here. Well, see, if you
get just behind a little bit
with a TV bill, that’s 2 million
a month. (Laughter) And then,
you know, whew, boy, you’ve got
to keep picking, you know,
because if you don’t, you
get–in order to make up a
million-dollar deficit, you’ve
got to have 2 million at once.
Well, it had done that and done
that, and it got up to 6. And it
was–man. I did–I–oh, oh, it
was on me. Oh, it was bothering
me. And at that time, Pastor
George wasn’t Pastor George. He
was–he was executive director
of the ministry. He was actually
pastor of the staff back then.
Well, I waited until about
midnight the night before we had
the board of directors meeting
in the morning. I don’t–I do
not want to go in there and face
that board with a $6 million
bill. Well, the whole thing was,
all of the ministry departments
all turned in their reports to
George, and then George did an
overview and turned the reports
in to me, and then it’s my job
the next day to present this to
the board. And so it’s–I mean,
it’s about–well, it’s a little
after midnight because I, “Boy,
this is bothering me.” So I
started through George’s report:
This department, “Well, we have
had the best year we’ve ever
had.” This department, “We’ve
had the best year we’ve ever
had.” This department, “We’ve
had the best year we’ve ever
had.” Television department, “We
are $6 million in debt.”
(Laughter) This department,
“We’ve had the best year we’ve
ever had.” Gloria’s already gone
to bed. I said, “Gloria, get in
here!” She come in there,
“What?” I said, “We’ve had the
best year we ever had, and I
didn’t know it!” (Laughter) And
I–and I saw what I’d done. And
the Lord said to me, He said,
“Every department did excellent
except the one you tried to
carry.” AUDIENCE: Oh. Amen.
KENNETH: Now, He said, “You
better get out from under the
care of that right now.”
AUDIENCE: Yeah. KENNETH: I said,
“Lord, I repent.” Gloria and I
got on our knees and we
repented. We said, “We know
better than this. We know better
than to carry that care. And
we–we’ve rolled that care over
on the Lord.” And that’s where
this verse of Scripture came in.
And it–and I’ve done this many
times before. “When he, the
Spirit of truth, is come, he
will guide you into all the
truth.” And listen, “He will not
speak of himself; but whatsoever
he shall hear, that shall he
speak.” He is hearing, he is
guiding, he is speaking. It’s
not the Holy Spirit with a
hearing problem, it’s me,
because I’m–I’m full of care.
He’s trying to get through to me
all the time. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: Amen. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: I said, “I’m listening.
I am listening.” Well, He
started talking, and I went in
there the next day. And I’m
telling you, I mean, we had a
board meeting, didn’t we,
George? I mean, I preached and
preached and preached and
preached. I don’t think I ever
let George say anything.
(Laughter) I was so excited,
man, oh, man. The board meeting
was in March. Now, you know
this ministry. We–I have never
written an appeal letter in 50
years we’ve been in this
ministry. Well, it’ll be 50
years in January. And this is, I
think, October. So I didn’t say
anything to anybody about it but
God. Gloria and I just set
ourselves in agreement and
rolled the care of it over on
God. And I said, well, you know,
I’m like–I’m like Brother Jesse
said. He got all those TV bills,
he said, “You have mail.”
(Laughter) Amen. Glory to God.
Well, this is March, April, May,
that $6 million was paid.
AUDIENCE: Mm. Amen. Glory.
KENNETH: June, for the first
time ever, we paid the TV bill
in one check. AUDIENCE: Glory to
God. Praise God. Hallelujah.
KENNETH: Why? By listening to
the Spirit that was dwelling on
the inside of me trying to tell
me what to do, and I was too
dumb to listen. But I got over
there in a hurry. (Laughter)
Amen. You understand? So He’s
speaking all the time. AUDIENCE:
Yes. KENNETH: Rufus Moseley,
great–great preacher in the
early days of the 20th century,
he was, I believe, in Chicago.
But anyway, he was laying on his
face in his hotel room, crying
out to God. “Oh, God, help us.
Oh, God, help us. Oh, God, help
us.” And he–and he stopped. And
he said, “Huh. Here lies a fool
that knows nothing, doing all
the talking to somebody that
knows everything.” (Laughter)
When I first went to Oral
Roberts University, I hadn’t
even enrolled yet, we were
there–we went up there in
December of ’66. And we’d had
that car wreck I was telling you
about and then–then the partner
meeting that we went to. Came
back home, got all–everything
all ready, and we went back then
in December and then enrolled in
the school in January. Well, I
couldn’t see how I’m going to do
this. What am I going to do? I
am so broke. The only decent car
we had just got wiped out. And
now I’m driving this elderly
car–(Laughter)–that had
90-some-odd thousand miles on it
when I got it. And back there
then, cars didn’t go– AUDIENCE:
That’s right. KENNETH: –100,000
miles like they do now. I mean,
50-, 60,000 miles and they’re
suffering, you know? (Laughter)
And in this one–it didn’t look
all that bad at first, but it
was a little long in tooth, you
know, here about this time. And
“What am I going to do? I don’t
have any money. Well, I could go
out to the airport and check
around out there. I’ve got–I’ve
got good qualifications and so
forth, got all my ratings,
so–and then maybe–maybe I’ll
find a job out there. But if I
do that, how am I going to go to
school?” Lean into my own
understanding. And it didn’t
understand anything. (Laughter)
I told Gloria, I said, “I’m
going in that bedroom, and I’m
not coming out of there until I
hear from God. And I don’t care
if it takes all night long or
how long it takes.” And I shut
the door and fell on the floor.
Man, I went to praying. “Oh,
God,” I just went to praying.
“Oh, God. Oh, God! Oh, God, Oh,
God. Oh, God! Oh, God.” I don’t
remember all I said, I was just
going on and on. Suddenly I
stopped, and I thought, “I
wonder if I just would be quiet
stopped, and I thought, “I
wonder if I just would be quiet
here–” (Laughter) “–if He’d
say something to me.” “Stand up
on your feet.” Man, I come to
attention. Now, I don’t mean I
heard an audible voice, but it
was audible to me. It was on the
inside of me so strong. I stood
up on my feet. He said, “It’s
about time. I haven’t been able
to get a word in edgewise.”
(Laughter) “I sent you here.
I’ll take care of you here.”
AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: I
thought, “Okay.” (Laughter) “I
don’t know how you’re going to
do it, but okay.” So came time
to go register and–now, see, I
was wanting to go mess around
with–with, you know, the only
thing I knew how to do.
And–ha-ha. The first day I went
in and registered, I’m sitting
in Mrs. Campbell’s office. She’s
a registrar, and she’s typing
out my deal. She’s putting all
this stuff together, and I’m
fixing to get my first bill
here. (Laughter) (Clicking)
“Call your dad.” “What?” “Call
your dad.” “Mrs. Campbell, may I
“Call your dad.” “What?” “Call
your dad.” “Mrs. Campbell, may I
make a collect, long-distance
call to my dad, please?” “Sure.”
She just kept typing. My dad
answered the phone. He said,
“Where are you?” I said, “I’m in
the registrar’s office here at
ORU.” I said, “I just registered
this morning.” And he said,
“I’ve been trying to find you
all morning.” I said, “Why?” He
said, “A fellow came by here
and–and brought me some money
that he said he wanted to put it
in–in your ministry.” And he
said, “I figured you need it,
so,” he said, “I put it in the
bank for you.” (Laughter)
AUDIENCE: Glory to God. KENNETH:
Took out my tithe, paid that
first tuition, bought my books,
Took out my tithe, paid that
first tuition, bought my books,
and had a dime. (Laughter) I
heard Brother Hagin one time
say–you know, really got down
to a dime–he said, “Let’s go
get us a candy bar and go
broke.” (Laughter) That’s the
way I–that’s what I told Gloria
then. Well, man, I’m so
thrilled. So see, what the Lord
said to me has come to pass. He
took care of me, right?
(Audience Agrees) I’m–so
I’m–I’m–man, I’m headed out.
I’m headed to the house. I’ve
got to tell Gloria what
happened. And my feet stuck to
the sidewalk out in front of the
LRC. Now, this just happened
three times in all these years.
I said, “What is it, Lord?” He
said, “I want you to go up on
the sixth floor.” I said, “Lord,
I can’t go up there. That’s the
Vatican, man. They already told
us you can’t come up here.”
(Laughter) He said, “They work
for me. I want you to go up
there.” And He turned my feet
loose. Boy, I had a choice then.
So I went up. I don’t have a
clue what He’s going–I don’t
know what this is about, so
they–and they’re going–already
been threatened, “Stay off that
sixth floor.” So I got in the
elevator and punched the fifth
floor and went up to the fifth
floor. Now, this is 1967, you
understand? I mean, that whole
floor was empty. It later became
a library, but then there wasn’t
anything in there because the
school was just in its fourth
year. And there’s not anything
there. And the Lord said,
“I told you the sixth floor.”
(Laughter) “Okay.” AUDIENCE:
Amen. KENNETH: So the
elevator–when it opened up, the
door opened up on the sixth
floor. It was about as from here
to Pastor George, about like
this, the elevator opened, and
there was Ruth Rook’s desk which
I didn’t know who she was then.
They later became very close
friends of ours. I still don’t
know what I’m going to do. I’m
here. Why? So I walked over to
her. See, I’m 30 years old, I
don’t look like a student. So I
got away with it up to there.
(Laughter) And so Gloria said
I’m the oldest freshmen in the
world so–(Laughter)–I guess I
was. And I said–I introduced
myself and I said, “I’d–I know
this ministry uses airplanes,
and I’m–I’m a fully rated
commercial pilot, and I need all
the help I can get, and I just
wanted somebody to know about
it.” Man, I felt like I’m just
drawing up. Well, she said, “I
want you to tell Dr. Messick.” I
told him, and he went “Hmm,” and
just turned around and walked
off. And I thought, “Boy, I have
just–I have really messed this
up.” I said, “Thank you very
much.” Then I turned around.
Brother Roberts had walked up
behind me, and I didn’t know
he’s there when he’s that much
taller than me. (Laughter) And I
turn, and there he was. Well,
now, the only time I’d been that
close to him was about a month
or so ago when he laid hands
on me, but this is different.
(Laughter) He said, “I’m Oral
Roberts.” And I said,
“Ah-ah-ah-ah.” (Laughter) Well,
how would you like somebody to
say, “I’m God, who are you?”
(Laughter) And I said,
“Ye–ye–yes, sir.” I really
did do that, “Hi–I–Huh.”
(Laughter) He said, “I
understand you to say
you’re a
commercial pilot?” I said, “Yes,
sir.” He said, “Can you handle
our airplane?” I said, “Yes,
sir.” He said, “Two weeks ago I
started to hire a copilot, but
the Spirit of God said, ‘No. I
have a student coming that
I want to have the job,’ and
you’re my man.” Now, what if I
had fouled that up and gone to
the airport? AUDIENCE: That’s
right. Amen. KENNETH: See, the
one on the inside, the Greater
One had it all already planned
out. AUDIENCE: Yeah. KENNETH:
Now, I’m–I want to come up to
the close with this. You’ve got
to hear this now. Listen to me.
In fact, let me read something
to you from the book of Joshua
if you’ll turn over there right
quick, 2nd chapter. 40 years
they spent in the desert because
of 10 unbelieving preachers.
(Laughter) AUDIENCE: That’s
right. KENNETH: And two men of
faith stayed the whole course,
but now, Joshua has crossed the
river. Now, he knew better than
to get 12. He got two. He made
sure he had two faith people
before they went over there.
AUDIENCE: Amen. Yeah. Ha-ha.
KENNETH: I want you to notice
what happened when they went in
to Rahab’s place. And Verse 8,
“Before they were laid down, she
came up to them on the roof; and
she said to the men, I know that
the Lord hath given you the
land, and that your terror is
fallen upon us, and all the
inhabitants of the land faint
because of you. We have heard
how the Lord dried up the water
of the Red Sea for you, and when
you came out of Egypt; and what
you did to the two kings of the
Amorites, that were on the other
side of Jordan, Sihon and Og,
whom you utterly destroyed. And
as soon as we had heard these
things, our hearts did melt,
neither did there remain any
more courage in any man, because
of you: for the Lord your God,
is God in heaven above, and in
earth beneath.” AUDIENCE:
Woo-hoo! Amen! Hallelujah.
KENNETH: He’s always already
working on the other end of what
He told you to do! AUDIENCE:
That’s right! Amen. Hallelujah.
KENNETH: He’s not going to tell
you that. You’re not going to
walk by sight. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: He can’t tell you that
because, without faith, there’s
no grace, and without grace, you
can’t get it done. AUDIENCE:
Amen. KENNETH: Amen! AUDIENCE:
Amen. KENNETH: Hallelujah.
AUDIENCE: Hallelujah. KENNETH:
He told Samuel to go to Jesse’s
house. He didn’t tell him which
one was king. AUDIENCE: Right.
KENNETH: Amen. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: He had to go in faith.
Always–see, I’m thinking, “How
are you going to do this? How’s
He going to do this?” He’d
already set this up for me two
weeks before. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: Now, you think about
it, that two weeks before was
just about the time I got there
in December, latter part of
December between Christmas and
New Year’s. Huh? He’s just
taking care of everything for
me. AUDIENCE: Hallelujah.
KENNETH: Somebody took money and
gave it to my dad that paid for
my tuition. See, He’s already
got somebody working. AUDIENCE:
Amen. KENNETH: I said, “Dad, who
was that?” “They said–no, they
just–they didn’t want me to
tell you. They said you
just–you just know that Jesus
did it for you.” AUDIENCE: Glory
to God. KENNETH: Hallelujah.
AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: Isn’t
that wonderful? (Audience
Agrees) The Greater One’s
working. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: The Greater One’s
working. AUDIENCE: That’s right.
KENNETH: You go to the Word of
God and you stand on that Word
and you expect Him to go to
work. AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH:
And you walk in love and you
work in love. And the whole
family’s mad at you, and
everybody’s mad at you, and you
know you’re going to have to go
to that family reunion and you
really don’t want to go. But
hey, you just, kcch, put that
smile on your face and say,
“Come on, Greater One, I’ll walk
in love.” AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: “I’m going to love
everybody there. I don’t care
what they say. I don’t care what
they do.” You remember what
Keith Moore said about that?
Those of you that were–he said,
“You go–you go to that reunion
and you say, ‘It’s so good to
see you!'” (Laughter) And he
said, “On the inside you’re
just, ‘nrr, nrr, nrr.'”
(Laughter) No, you put that
smile on there. Glory to God.
Amen. AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH:
And just, “Holy Spirit, rise up
within me. I keep the
commandment of love.” AUDIENCE:
Amen. KENNETH: And He’ll start
working. And I’ll tell you,
it’ll turn things. It’ll change
things. People will–people will
change right there while they’re
standing there looking at you.
AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: Amen.
AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: You may
be in the–don’t–don’t try
to–don’t try to make your own
deal. Don’t try to bail yourself
out. Just say, “Sir, yes, sir. I
did it.” AUDIENCE: Yeah.
KENNETH: “I said that. Stupid,
wasn’t it?” AUDIENCE: Yeah.
KENNETH: (Laughs) “But I’m the
stupid one that said it. And I
repent. I repented to God, and
now I’m repenting to you in the
name of Jesus.” People fall in
love with you. I’ve had people
say, “I don’t know you, and I
don’t know why I’m doing
this.” (Laughs) And I’m
thinking, “I do.” (Laughter)
Amen. AUDIENCE: That’s
right. KENNETH:
Hallelujah. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: Just all kinds of
different situations and
things. And we’re out
of time. Hallelujah.
(Music)