Priscilla Shirer, CeCe Winans, Joyce Meyer: Women of Faith (Mashup) | Praise on TBN

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and i realize that i have weaknesses but

i also have strengths

i do make mistakes but i’m not all a

mistake

and

i mean it took me a long time to really

get that i would go and stand in the

mirror and point at myself and say god

loves you

god loves you

and

because i couldn’t figure out why i

couldn’t love people i kept hearing as a

christian i needed to love people and i

just was not a very loving person

all right how about setting boundaries

yes

you know people that have been

wounded

we either do one of two things

we either

let people take advantage of us

because we’re so afraid nobody’s going

to like us that we

are afraid to say no to anybody

are

we turn it the other way around

and we try to take advantage of

everybody else because we feel like

we’ll never have anything if we don’t

stay

on top all the time

you know i came out of my abuse

very aggressive you know like nobody’s

ever going to push me around again and

no man’s ever going to tell me what to

do again and i’m not going to put up

with that and i’m not going to put up

with this

where

i know another pastor’s wife

who was

also sexually abused and

she came out of it like a little mouse

you know she just totally turned

in

and

wasn’t very courageous at all i was out

of balance one way she was out of

balance the other way and so to be

healthy for any person no matter what

your problem is it doesn’t have to be

that you were severely abused you know

different things hurt different people

and the thing is is god wants us to be

confident he doesn’t want us to be

insecure

so let’s just say you’re insecure well

if you’re insecure you need to not just

say well i’m just insecure

and use that as an excuse

to not live the life that christ died

for you to have you need to say i’m

insecure

and that’s not what jesus died for me to

have and i want to get to the root of

this

and i want to get over this

and so you have to start by setting

boundaries for your life where you don’t

let people take advantage of you

where you you know how to say

no to things if you believe it’s

something god would have you

say no to don’t you guys find that you

have to have some personal boundaries

for your life yes

and it’s it’s hard when people are

wanting you to do things

and you want to be liked

you know because i grew up not i didn’t

have friends i didn’t

and

and i was i had a real rough

way of dealing with things because i was

hurting so bad and so

um

i wanted friends and so then i i fell

into well if i can’t control you

then i’m going to let you control me

and so

i was always out of balance one way or

the other and thank god i’ve learned now

to

treat other people right

and

to not let them

i i’ve learned to not enable people

to keep their problems

i talked about that

at joel’s last weekend you know we have

to know

when helping somebody’s really helping

them

and when we’re just enabling them and so

boundaries i think are important and

knowing the love of god is absolutely

mandatory mandatory that’s

that is if if you are hurting inside in

your soul

and you don’t feel good about yourself

and

we need to love ourselves and i’m not

saying be in love with yourself

but you need to love yourself because

you cannot give away what you don’t have

and so god loves us

freely and unconditionally and receiving

that is the equivalent of learning to

love yourself

i mean if god can love me who’s perfect

then

i can love me and that doesn’t mean that

you know i doubt on myself and think i

have to have everything that i i want it

just means that i respect who god made

me to be

and i realize that i have weaknesses but

i also have strengths

i do make mistakes but i’m not all a

mistake

and

i mean it took me a long time to really

get that i would go and stand in the

mirror and point at myself and say god

loves you

god loves you

and

because i couldn’t figure out why i

couldn’t love people i kept hearing as a

christian i needed to love people and i

just was not a very loving person

i mean i just

wasn’t i was okay if i was getting my

way but if i wasn’t boy i’d look out

and

there was a lot of things that god had

to change in me

but i really am like a totally different

person i still got some things that need

to change in me and

i love working with god on changing what

needs to be changed i don’t

that’s not a problem for me i know that

his chastisement is love you’re not

fighting it anymore did you used to

fight it oh yeah because i didn’t want

something else to be wrong with me

i you know i already felt so bad about

myself

that’s why actually there’s some

scriptures in hebrews toward the end of

hebrews 5

and into hebrews 6 and he said that you

by now you should be teaching others

but you still need to be taught over and

over

the same messages

i can only feed you milk

and not meet listen to this because you

are unskilled in the doctrine of

righteousness

so he was saying i can’t tell you what

i’d really like to tell you

which was probably grow up

he said i can’t tell you what i’d really

like to tell you because you still yet

don’t know who you are in christ

and when you don’t know who you are in

christ

then you have a very hard time taking

correction from people yeah

are taking correction from god because

it just makes you feel worse about

yourself

than what you already do

but see now

i know the difference in conviction and

condemnation

and so

when god convicts me

i know that that’s him loving me

and i can say god thank you for loving

me enough to not leave me

the way i am the voice

why is it important to hear god because

it changes you perception change me

that’s

right it does change you you know what

it does

you know what it does yeah it ruins you

for church as usual oh hey

ruins you yeah that regular old mundane

christian rediverse a day to keep the

devil away sit in church go because my

mama went my grandmother went this is

what we do

all of that goes away okay because

you’re hungering for what you know

you’ve experienced before actually

sensing the voice of god his presence

near you listen sometimes hearing god is

less about having a specific word and

more about just the nearness of his

presence

just knowing that he’s near i’m talking

about where your physical body responds

to the presence of god there are times

when you know he’s near because he’s

only present there are times where he

manifests himself in a way where the the

hair on the back of your neck stands out

kind of fail goosebumps yes and in those

moments once you start sensing the

nearness of god in that way you’re

ruined for all just doing stuff because

it’s what you’re supposed to be doing

and you want more of that and i think

what a lot of people need to understand

and he also speaks through his silence

very much so you know i’m not saying

anything

you know think about the years in the

world where you know from the old to new

testament he was just silent yeah

and his silence means stay still don’t

move i got you yeah does somebody your

size ever feel goosebumps does that ever

happen to you ever i it is big you know

you know i’m get have goosebumps right

now oh hey hey

hey hey hey yeah how much time we have

left in the show they’re needing to get

out okay um

and by the way uh we’re going to unpack

this so get right back into the subject

it’s an important subject matter even

the idea well way the publisher and all

that kind of stuff this is this is on

the heart of god right now this is the

people being

dissatisfied with the mundane yeah we

are wanting to hear god’s voice wanting

to know

you know i don’t i mean you know not

what to to eat today yeah necessarily

but needing to know to help their kids

yeah to their jobs their you know in

every area of your life i believe god is

speaking or wants to speak or wants to

have a say yes and i want to say too

that just that sense of dissatisfaction

that that someone may be feeling that we

all feel when we’re going to be launched

into the next level in our relationship

with god sometimes that dissatisfaction

makes us so upset and so frustrated

because we just want to know the answer

we want to get to the answer but the

dissatisfaction itself is a sign of

god’s spirit working with this

absolutely and the satisfaction the

journey that it is going to lead you on

the lessons that are meant to be learned

they’re going to be learned because the

dissatisfaction sent you on a journey

the journey itself is not a waste of

time discerning the voice of god is

never something you’re going to arrive

at it is never something you’re going to

be successful at it is going to be a

journey with god as you walk in the

rhythms of grace you will be on your

deathbed still wanting to know whether

or not you have clearly heard the voice

of god because we are human wow he’s

mysterious he is god and aren’t we glad

that he’s not just a big version of us i

don’t want god to just be a big me i

want god to be so far beyond my

imagination that i can never arrive at

the knowledge of him that i have to

constantly and consistently be growing

well because it takes faith

it takes faith to say okay you know what

that that’s why i always say if we step

out in faith kind of

no matter what it is but if we walk in

faith how can we ever fail in that

that’s right that’s right if we’re

believing that we’re doing what god’s

called us

in our

yeah yeah even when we’re when we’re

unsure and we’re unsteady

in in the book i list several of these

but i’ll tell you just a couple of them

i believe that he allows us to have the

mercy of confirmation i call them the

five m’s of hearing god when you sense

that god is imparting something upon you

um impressing conviction um

just a

push towards something or away from

something ask him for the mercy of

confirmation he knows you’re just a

human he knows that you need to make

sure that his fingerprints are on this

assignment before you move forward i

believe that he honors the sincere

request of his children when they say

lord would you just do something to

confirm not not because it’s the primary

way you speak i think you’re speaking

would you confirm that by some external

means to point me in the right direction

and then one of the other m’s is the

ministry of eli do you remember the

little boy samuel he had an older wiser

guy in his life named eli who was the

one who pointed out to him that the

voice you’re hearing is the voice of god

you need to have a wiser more mature

believer in your life who you admire not

the car they drive the house they live

on

live in the success that they’ve

achieved but the

ongoing conversational relationship they

have with god the victory you’ve seen

them experience in your life you go to

them and you say here’s what i think the

lord is saying would you pray through

this with me i listen i’ve got those

people in my life the majority of the

things that we have done in ministry as

a couple we have not done

i’m talking about big things that would

have marked our lives in our children’s

lives we have not done before we have

called people that we are submitted to

their authority

ask them would they pray through and

give us their wise counsel before we

took a step so we’ve submitted ourselves

to the ministry of eli we’ve got eli’s

in our life

talk a little bit about uh your

relationship and and where god where did

what you know i love you good bad

i really love alvin yeah i really love

that i loved her first um i loved your

lovely first right okay

did you tell her you loved her before

she told you back that she loved you

definitely like i wasn’t gonna tell him

first yeah like back in those days i

told her i loved her

and and then she would say like thank

you yeah yeah

i love it

i love it

yes that’s my girl right there i love

you

well you got to be cool okay she’s okay

thank you my last name was love she

thought i was just making it up yeah i

was like

give me another line

love

when did you meet

we met we met um at a bowling alley

actually the first time it didn’t sound

really romantic but in detroit bowling

alley the young people were out on the

outing i was living in charlotte at the

time came home

met him he belonged to my church um

and and so yeah he was friends with my

brother and you guys were really young

yes well i was really really young yeah

i was he was i was he was young i was

just because we have a really big gap

between i was older

[Laughter]

but but love

you know you you have those

butterflies you know and then you

realize love is a choice

[Music]

because the butterflies will leave

they fly away they fly away

laurie and you realize

thanks

i was trying to get her well they flew

away from me too

probably 11 years into our marriage we

went to our first marriage conference

yeah you you kids are really good enough

tonight thank you for calling us kids

yeah they’re younger than us yes younger

than we know we went to our first

marriage conference and i got nervous

going to the marriage conference we were

like we’re okay but we’ll go since our

church was having it and when we got

there and they started really talking

about what love is i was like

did i say i do to that

unconditional love

unconditional love and

and how it’s no room to be selfish yeah

yeah you know i think when i went down

the aisle if i’m to be just totally

honest when i went down the aisle i

think my mindset i shouldn’t say i think

i know my mindset was as long as he

makes me happy wow then i’m in

yeah um because as you can tell i love

the laugh life is too short not to

um and but i had made up in my mind a

plan b if it didn’t

you know

that you know i wouldn’t hold it against

them i forgive them but i i’m out of

here yeah wow

and the lord had to teach me

what love really is

you know and i can remember a time

when we were going through a rough time

and

thank god the

the good times have away the bad times

by far

but i remember going through a time and

i was just like you know what

i’m gone you know

and i remember the holy spirit speaking

to me

and it’s amazing that the holy spirit

will speak to you even when you don’t

want to hear him wow wow he speaks loud

wow and i remember him saying

cece what’s more important what’s the

most important thing

your feelings are my perfect will

yeah i was like whoa holy spirit why did

you have to come and come to me like

that

you know

and i was like lord your perfect will

your perfect will

and all i can say is

that when you say yes to his perfect

will

and you learn how to love the way he

loves

then you experience love yes on another

whole level wow

you saved each other yeah

we try to out out love each other yeah

without serving yeah we do that’s that’s

our thing now she’s still trying to

catch up

[Laughter]

yeah i think so many people though when

they are walking down that aisle they’re

thinking he makes me happy

you know now now everything’s good well

we’re not

brought into each other’s life to make

each other happy come on come on there’s

a book out that says marriage doesn’t

make you happy it makes you holy it

makes you

holy that’s true you know and i haven’t

read it but that’s true i thought it was

a great title great title

because you know what i’ve told people

for years laura it’s funny you should

i’ve told people marriage will either

save you or make you backslide totally

yeah right yeah because the goal in

marriage is to become one yeah right

become one and

and um that means you both have to say

gotta crucify your flash marriage is an

amazing institution

if you enjoy being in an institute

[Laughter]

just keep the camera on her that’s my

favorite thing

this line is flat this is valentine’s

day oh my gosh

do not put that camera

so

let me let me look

wait let me let me just say one thing

the the the the the thing is that i’ve

always adored her okay always it was

never hard for me marriage was super

simple yes

super simple for me i won the cosmic

lotto as it were with her okay

and and so but the lord showed me

something that really helped

me and i it didn’t feel like a super

chastisement like yours was i mean yours

was like a two by four kind of thing you

know yes and so but the the

the lord just said i didn’t call you

and use kind of one finger to point at

me in this kind of daydream i called you

and used two fingers yeah

and then she was just next to me in this

daydream i didn’t call you i called you

use the same word

so

we are a you to the lord that’s good so

here’s the thing

but but listen here’s the point to that

the point is when you

know

that your destiny

is because of who you’re married to

then the fighting just kind of stops i

mean it’s not like irritation doesn’t

happen i mean she can irritate me

every day wholeheartedly it’s not it’s

not irritation but there is nothing

but there is

ever a deal that if look

here’s the point here’s the point with

me i wouldn’t be divorcing her i’d be

divorcing my destiny come on

come on that’s not that yeah that’s

right

that’s right

and so ultimately

if i want to just if i want to derail

that’s how i would say

but it would be a full-blown derailment

okay that’s right

maiming death misery horror kind of you

know yeah

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