I Was Shocked to See This Man at Church…

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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU’RE A
FINE,

DIGNIFIED MOTHER AND YOU
GO TO A CHURCH AND ALL OF

A SUDDEN THE WIND OF GOD
SWEEPS YOU IN THE AIR,

LITERALLY TO ANOTHER PLACE
IN THE CHURCH?

THIS ISN’T SUPPOSED TO
HAPPEN.

AND THEN YOU’RE DRIVING
YOUR CAR AND GOD SPEAKS TO

YOU AT AGE 70, AND SAYS,
“I WANT YOU TO WRITE NOW.”

ROBERTA SIMPSON, IN
ADDITION TO EVERYTHING

ELSE I JUST SAID ABOUT
YOU,

YOU’RE JEWISH.

ROBERTA: YES.

SID: SO LET ME TAKE YOU
BACK A LITTLE BIT.

YOU’RE MARRIED.

YOU HAVE TWINS AND TRAGEDY
STRUCK.

WHAT HAPPENED?

ROBERTA: YES.

I HAD TWO CHILDREN ALREADY
AND THEY WERE QUITE YOUNG,

AND I HAD TWINS.

I DIDN’T KNOW I WAS HAVING
TWINS,

AND YET I FELT SO STRANGE
ALL THROUGH THE PREGNANCY.

I KEPT ASKING THE DOCTOR
WHAT’S WRONG.

NOTHING YOU’RE FINE.

AND THEN WHEN I WAS SIX
MONTHS AND A WEEK

PREGNANT, I WAS RUSHED
INTO THE HOSPITAL.

MY WATER HAD BROKEN AND I
DELIVERED TWINS.

AND THE STRANGE THING WAS
THAT WHEN THE FIRST BABY

CAME I STILL HAD A BIG
TUMMY UP IN THE AIR.

AND THE DOCTOR PATTED IT
AND SAID,

“THERE’S ANOTHER ONE
COMING.”

AND ALL I COULD THINK
ABOUT WAS I DON’T HAVE

ENOUGH DIAPERS FROM TWO
BABIES,

AND I WASN’T DUE ANYWAY.

AND BUT IT WAS A TRAGEDY.

I WASN’T EXPECTING TWINS.

MY HUSBAND WANTED TWINS.

I DON’T KNOW ANY OTHER MAN
THAT WANTED TWINS.

AND I HAD THEM JUST
BRIEFLY BECAUSE THEY HAD

TO RUSH THEM TO ANOTHER
HOSPITAL.

IT’S RAINY.

IT WAS COOL AND THEY HAD
TO PUT THEM IN AN

INCUBATOR.

AND JUST WHEN THEY GOT THE
INCUBATOR WARM,

THE SECOND BABY DIED.

THE FIRST BABY WAS ONLY
TWO AND A QUARTER POUNDS

AND THE SECOND BABY WAS
THREE.

SO I HAVE A MIRACLE CHILD
AND SHE’S NOW 40 AND HAS

TWO WONDERFUL CHILDREN OF
HER OWN.

SID: OKAY, LET’S TAKE YOU
BACK TO A DAY,

I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE
BEEN AN INSURANCE AGENT IN

YOUR HOME.

YOU’VE JUST GONE THROUGH
THIS TRAGEDY OF LOSING ONE

OF YOUR TWINS.

THE OTHER IS ON THE
INCUBATOR AND EVERYTHING

IS GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE.

AND HE INVITES YOU TO HIS
CHURCH.

WHY IN THE WORLD DID YOU
GO?

ROBERTA: WELL MY HUSBAND
WAS ALWAYS A CHURCH GOER

AND HE HAD AN ANGLICAN
MOTHER AND A CATHOLIC

FATHER AND ON SUNDAY HE
HAD TO GO TO BOTH

CHURCHES.

AND BUT JUST RECENTLY IN
OUR LIVES,

HE HAD MADE A COMMITMENT
TO THE LORD TO WALK WITH

HIM AND SERVE HIM, BUT I
DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THAT

MEANT AT THE TIME.

AND OUR LITTLE GIRL, OUR
TWIN GIRL HAD JUST COME

HOME THE DAY BEFORE, AND
WE HAD BEEN INVITED TO GO

TO CHURCH, AND WE WENT
BECAUSE MY HUSBAND WANTED

TO GO.

I WAS INTERESTED.

I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I
HAVE FAITH IN GOD.

I BELIEVED IN HIM.

I WASN’T TOO SURE, I JUST
THOUGHT JESUS WAS A MAN

WHO WAS GOOD AND LIVED A
GOOD LIFE.

SID: WEREN’T YOU TAUGHT HE
WAS EVEN A PROPHET.

ROBERTA: YES.

SID: BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE
SON OF GOD.

ROBERTA: NO.

SID: SO TELL ME YOUR FIRST
RECOLLECTIONS WHEN YOU

WALKED INTO THIS CHURCH.

DID YOU LIKE IT?

ROBERTA: NO.

THEY HAD DRUMS.

I THOUGHT, I DIDN’T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT CHURCHES,

BUT DRUMS.

SID: AT THE SHOW WE DON’T
HAVE DRUMS.

ROBERTA: NO.

AND THEN THEY HAD A
QUARTET THAT SANG AND I

THOUGHT THEY WERE PRETTY
LOUSY.

I WAS SO CRITICAL.

AND MY TWO OTHER CHILDREN
WERE WITH ME AND IT WAS

VERY HOT, AND THEY FELL
ASLEEP.

AND ONE WAS ASLEEP ON ONE
LEG AND THE OTHER ONE WAS

ASLEEP ON MY OTHER LEG,
AND I FELT VERY

UNCOMFORTABLE.

AND IT WAS A VERY KIND OF
LOUD RAUCOUS CHURCH.

IT WAS A PENTECOSTAL
CHURCH,

AND THEN THE PASTOR GOT UP
TO SPEAK,

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST,
I DID NOT LIKE IT,

SID.

BUT I WAS THERE BECAUSE I
LOVED MY HUSBAND AND I

WENT WITH HIM.

SID: YOU WERE A NICE WIFE.

ROBERTA: YES.

SID: BUT THEN THE
UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.

WHAT HAPPENED?

ROBERTA: WELL AT THE VERY
END OF THE MESSAGE THE

PASTOR SAID, “WHEN TWO OR
MORE ARE GATHERED IN

JESUS’ NAME HE’S IN THE
MIDST.”

AND I HAD NEVER HEARD THAT
BEFORE,

BUT MY EARS KIND OF,
SOMETHING STIRRED IN ME

AND HE WENT ON TO SAY,
HE’S THE ONE THAT CAN

CHANGE YOUR LIFE AND YOU
CAN BE A DIFFERENT PERSON,

AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO
NOW.

AND SOMETHING STIRRED IN
MY HEART,

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT’S
A VERY LARGE CHURCH,

I SAW JESUS COME FROM ONE
END BY THE ALTAR,

WALKING RIGHT THROUGH THE
CHURCH BY THE ALTAR.

AND I KNEW IT WAS JESUS
AND I KNEW HE WAS THE ONE

I NEEDED IN MY LIFE, AND I
KNEW THAT HE,

ALL OF A SUDDEN I REALIZED
I HAD A BITTER HEART.

I WAS BITTER OVER MY
BABY’S DEATH.

I WOULD EVERY NIGHT CRY
OUT TO GOD AND SAY,

GOD, WHY, WHY HAS THIS
HAPPENED TO ME?

WHY?

AND WITHIN AN INSTANT I
KNEW HE’S THE ONE I

NEEDED.

AND HE DIDN’T LOOK AT ME,
BUT HE HAD THIS BEAUTIFUL

SMILE ON HIS FACE.

HE HAD A FACE OF LOVE AND
HIS STRIDE,

YOU KNOW, THE WAY HE
WALKED ACROSS HIS CHURCH,

IT WAS PURPOSEFUL AND IT
WAS JUST WONDERFUL.

IT WAS SOMETHING I DIDN’T
WANT TO TELL ANYBODY

BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY
WOULD THINK I WAS WHACKO,

BUT IT REALLY HAPPENED.

SID: NOW OUT OF CURIOSITY,
IT WAS WONDERFUL,

BUT WHAT DID YOU FEEL
INSIDE WHEN YOU SEE JESUS,

WHO WE JEWS HAVE BEEN
TAUGHT IS NOT OUR MESSIAH.

YOU HAD REVELATION
KNOWLEDGE.

YOU KNEW HE WAS.

WHAT DID YOU FEEL INSIDE?

ROBERTA: EXCITED.

I JUST KNEW THAT MY LIFE
WAS GOING TO BE TOTALLY

DIFFERENT.

SID: FOR SURE.

NOW OUT OF CURIOSITY, TELL
ME WHAT HAPPENED,

WHO IS THE FIRST PERSON
YOU TOLD ABOUT THIS

EXPERIENCE?

ROBERTA: MY HUSBAND.

I DIDN’T DARE TELL ANYBODY
ELSE.

I DIDN’T TELL HIM EITHER
FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.

SID: SO HOW DID HE REACT?

ROBERTA: WELL I THINK HE
WAS A BIT STARTLED.

I DON’T THINK HE HAD EVER
HEARD OF SUCH A THING

HAPPENING BEFORE.

BUT HE KNEW IT WAS REAL
BECAUSE I WAS DIFFERENT

AND I WAS HUNGRY FOR GOD.

RIGHT AWAY I STARTED
READING BOOKS AND GOD

BEGAN TO BRING PEOPLE INTO
OUR LIVES THAT KNEW HIM

AND WOULD HELP US, AND
TEACH US.

BUT FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING I WANTED THINGS.

THE CHURCH WASN’T JEWISH
ENOUGH FOR ME.

THE FIRST BOOK IN THE
BIBLE I READ WAS THE BOOK

OF REVELATION.

THAT’S PRETTY FRIGHTENING.

SID: THAT WOULD DO IT TO
MOST PEOPLE.

ROBERTA: AND THEN THE
FIRST BOOK I READ WAS

“TORTURED FOR CHRIST” BY
RICHARD WURMBRAND,

AND THEN I READ “WHY
REVIVAL TARRIES” AND “THE

CROSS AND THE
SWITCHBLADE”,

ALL ONE AFTER THE OTHER.

AND I BELIEVE, LOOKING
BACK NOW,

GOD WANTED ME TO BE REAL.

HE WANTED ME TO, I WASTED
A LOT OF YEARS IN MY LIFE.

I THINK THE ONE REGRET
WHEN THIS ALL HAPPENED TO

ME WAS WHY DIDN’T THIS
HAPPEN WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.

SID: WHY WON’T IT HAPPEN
WHEN YOU’RE YOUNGER?

IT’S GOING TO.

DON’T GO AWAY.

YOU’RE GOING TO FIND OUT
HOW A 70-YEAR-OLD

GRANDMOTHER IS GIVEN
ORDERS TO WRITE FROM GOD.

WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK TO
IT’S SUPERNATURAL.

 

WE NOW RETURN TO IT’S
SUPE RNATURAL.

SID: HELLO.

SID ROTH HERE WITH ROBERTA
SIMPSON.

ROBERTA, YOU CANNOT TELL
ME THAT STORY ENOUGH.

AS A JEWISH PERSON, THE
LAST THING IN THE WORLD

YOU WANTED TO DO WAS TO
KNOW JESUS WAS THE

MESSIAH.

THE LAST THING YOU WANTED,
YOU HATED THAT CHURCH.

YOU COULDN’T WAIT TO GET
OUT OF THERE.

AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SAW.

ROBERTA: I SAW JESUS THE MESSIAH
SID: TELL ME WHAT HE WAS DOING.

ROBERTA:
HE WAS WALKING

ACROSS THE CHURCH BY THE ALTAR

AND IT LOOKED LIKE
HE JUST HAD LOVE AND

HAPPINESS ON HIS FACE FOR
EVERYBODY THAT WAS THERE.

AND HE WAS WALKING ACROSS
THERE WITH A PURPOSE,

AND I KNEW HE WAS THE ONE
I NEEDED IN MY LIFE.

SID: SO ROBERTA LOVED TO
TELL STORIES.

SHE’S A STORYTELLER.

SO SHE THOUGHT, SHE’D LIKE
TO,

YOU DID WRITING LETTERS TO
THE EDITOR.

ON WHAT SUBJECT WOULD YOU
WRITE ARTICLES?

ROBERTA: ISRAEL AND THE
JEWISH PEOPLE AND WHATEVER

THERE WAS ANYTHING
ANTI-SEMITIC OR ANYTHING

NEGATIVE, REAL LIES, AS I
CALLED THEM,

I WOULD WRITE LETTERS TO
THE APPLICANT AND TO THE

NATION, AND THOSE ARE THE
TWO MAIN NEWSPAPERS.

AND THAT WAS MY–
SID: ALL RIGHT, SO YOU TOOK A

WRITING COURSE
AND FIGURED MAYBE

I’LL REFINE THIS.

BUT THE PROFESSOR REALLY
CRUSHED YOU.

WHAT DID HE SAY ABOUT YOUR
WRITING?

ROBERTA: WELL HE TOOK MY
PAPER,

WHICH I THOUGHT WAS QUITE
NICE,

AND HE JUST SCRIBBLED IT
UP AND MADE HORRIBLE

COMMENTS, AND AT THE
BOTTOM HE SAID YOU CAN’T

WRITE.

AND THEN HE HAD THE
AUDACITY TO ASK ME,

“I HOPE I DIDN’T
DISCOURAGE YOU,

DID I?”

SID: SO YOU’RE DRIVING
YOUR CAR ALONG,

MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

ROBERTA: YEARS LATER.

SID: AND YOU HEAR FROM
GOD.

SO YOU BEGAN TO ACTUALLY
HEAR GOD SPEAK TO YOU.

ROBERTA: YES.

SID: WHAT DID HE SAY?

ROBERTA: JUST THESE FOUR
WORDS: “YOU CAN NOW

WRITE.”

AND THE “NOW” WAS
EMPHASIZED.

AND I KNEW IT WAS HIM.

IT WAS JUST THAT STILL
VOICE IN MY HEAD AND AN

EXCITEMENT ROSE UP IN ME,
AND A JOY.

SID: SO DID YOU TAKE
ANOTHER WRITING COURSE?

ROBERTA: NO.

SID: WHAT DID YOU DO?

ROBERTA: I WENT HOME AND I
WROTE MY FIRST STORY.

SID: NOW YOU KNOW, I DON’T
KNOW WHETHER IT’S JUST US

JEWISH PEOPLE, BUT THE
SAME THING HAPPENED WITH

ME.

THE MINUTE GOD TOLD ME TO
DO SOMETHING I DID IT.

ROBERTA: YOU KNOW, IF
WE’RE NOT OBEDIENT,

WE DON’T GET ANY, I LOOK
BACK NOW,

SID, AND I THINK HOW SCARY
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF I

HAD MAYBE THOUGHT, YES,
I’LL DO THIS,

AND THEN GOT HOME AND
DOUBT MIGHT HAVE OVERTAKEN

ME AND I CAN’T DO THIS.

I WAS TOLD I COULDN’T
WRITE.

BUT THERE WAS A JOY IN MY
SPIRIT AND I SAT DOWN AT

THAT COMPUTER IMMEDIATELY
AFTER I GOT HOME AND

STARTED WRITING, AND I
HAVEN’T STOPPED.

SID: I’VE GOT IT RIGHT
HERE,

“NANA’S BIBLE STORIES”.

AND I LOVE, I MEAN, EACH
STORY HAS A MESSAGE.

ONE MESSAGE IS ON COURAGE.

ANOTHER IS ON HEALING.

ANOTHER IS ON LOVE AND THE

MOST IMPORTANT ONE ON
HOW TO KNOW GOD.

JUST KIND OF PARAPHRASE
FOR ME ABOUT MY FAVORITE,

“THE BUTTERFLY AND THE
CROSS”.

ROBERTA: OKAY.

WELL TO BEGIN WITH, I USED
ALL MY GRANDCHILDREN’S

NAMES IN THE STORIES AND
WHEN I FIRST STARTED IT,

I STARTED WITH THE LOST
SHEEP,

AND I USED MY OLDEST
GRANDSON’S NAME,

RAFI.

AND IF I HAD KNOWN IT WAS
GOING TO BE A BOOK WITH A

LOT OF STORIES I WOULD
NEVER HAVE NAMED MY

GRANDCHILD A SHEEP.

BUT I WENT TO MY LITTLE
GRANDDAUGHTER,

ALEXANDRA, AND SHE WAS SIX
AT THE TIME,

AND I SAID TO HER, “WHAT
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE IN A

STORY?

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE
STORY?”

SHE SAYS, “I DON’T KNOW.”

I SAID, “WOULD YOU LIKE TO
BE QUEEN ESTHER’S BEST

FRIEND AND LIVE IN A
PALACE?”

ALL LITTLE GIRLS LIKE TO
BE PRINCESSES.

SHE SAID, “NO, DON’T WANT
TO BE THAT.”

I SAID, “WHAT WOULD YOU
LIKE TO BE?”

“I WANT TO BE BUTTERFLY.”

I THOUGHT, THERE’S NO
BUTTERFLY STORIES IN THE

BIBLE.

OF COURSE, I DIDN’T TELL
HER THAT.

AND HOW NARROW MINDED WE
CAN BE SOMETIMES,

BUT OF COURSE THERE WOULD
HAVE BEEN BUTTERFLIES.

THERE ARE BUTTERFLIES IN
ISRAEL.

AND THEN SHE REALLY
SHOOK ME.

SHE SAID, “I WANT TO BE A
BUTTERFLY AT THE

CRUCIFIXION.”

AND I DO A LOT OF RESEARCH
AND WHEN I WRITE THE

STORIES I GO INTO THE
BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS.

I DON’T CHANGE ANYTHING,
AND BUT,

LIKE FOR INSTANCE, I’M
WRITING A STORY ON A

BUTTERFLY, I DON’T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT

BUTTERFLIES.

SO I WENT TO GOOGLE AND
LOOKED UP BUTTERFLIES AND

FOUND THAT THE LARGEST
BUTTERFLY IN THE WORLD IS

CALLED THE QUEEN
ALEXANDRA.

NOW THAT BLEW MY MIND
BECAUSE IT WAS ANOTHER

SIGN THAT GOD WAS IN IT.

HE KNEW I WAS GOING TO
HAVE A GRANDDAUGHTER

CALLED ALEXANDRA AND THAT
ONE DAY I’D WRITE A STORY

ABOUT A BUTTERFLY WHO GOT
STUCK ON THE CROSS BY A

SPLINTER AND A DROP OF
BLOOD CAME DOWN AND FREED

HER, AND THEN SHE CHANGES
COLOR,

WHICH REPRESENTS WHEN WE
WILL COME TO JESUS AND ASK

HIM TO COME INTO OUR LIVES
AND OUR HEARTS,

HE CHANGES US AND WE’RE
DIFFERENT.

SID: ROBERTA, AT 70-PLUS,
HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK

ABOUT STARTING A CAREER
AND COMING OUT WITH

BEAUTIFUL BOOKS LIKE THIS.

THE PAINTINGS IN HERE ARE
SO BEAUTIFUL AND THERE’S

EVEN A CD OF SHEILA WALSH
READING,

IN CASE YOUR PARENTS ARE
LAZY AND YOU DON’T WANT TO

READ TO YOUR CHILDREN, BUT
I THINK YOU SHOULD READ TO

YOUR CHILDREN.

WHAT DO YOU FIGURE GOD
WANTS OUT OF THIS?

ROBERTA: WELL I BELIEVE
TWO THINGS.

I BELIEVE THAT MANY PEOPLE
WILL COME TO KNOW JESUS.

MANY PEOPLE WILL PUT THEIR
FAITH IN HIM AND I WANT

CHILDREN TO REALLY KNOW
HIM AS THEY SHOULD.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY
LEARN STORIES IN SUNDAY

SCHOOL.

BUT I’VE TRIED TO WRITE IN
SUCH A WAY THAT CHILDREN

CAN IDENTIFY WITH THE
CHARACTERS.

AND WELL MAYBE NOT A
BUTTERFLY,

BUT THE BUTTERFLY TELLS A
STORY ABOUT THE

CRUCIFIXION.

BUT THE LITTLE BOY THAT
GAVE JESUS THE LOAVES AND

THE FISH, THERE’S NOTHING
MUCH SAID ABOUT HIM.

BUT THEY CAN READ THE
STORY ABOUT HIM AND SAY TO

THEMSELVES, I CAN BE
LIKE THAT.

I CAN FOLLOW HIM.

SID: BUT CAN THEY FLY
THROUGH THE AIR,

I MEAN, LITERALLY, BECAUSE
THE POWER OF GOD TOUCHES

THEM.

THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED TO
ROBERTA.

SHE WENT TO A MEETING AND
WERE YOU HUNGRY?

ARE YOU HUNGRY FOR GOD,
ROBERTA?

ROBERTA: OH SID, I’M SO
STARVING.

AND THAT ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.

THIS IS THE THING.

I’VE ALWAYS WANTED MORE.

SID: ME, TOO.

I DON’T UNDERSTAND
BACKSLIDERS.

ROBERTA: I DON’T EITHER.

SID: WELL WHEN SHE FLEW
THROUGH THE AIR I BELIEVE

THE PRESENCE OF GOD AS SHE
EXPLAINS IT TO YOU,

IS JUST GOING TO HIT YOU
WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.

DON’T GO AWAY. WE’LL BE RIGHT
BACK IN JUST ONE MOMENT.

WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK TO
IT’S SUPERNATURAL.

WE NOW RETURN TO IT’S
SUPERNATURAL.

SID: HELLO. SID ROTH

HERE WITH ROBERTA
SIMPSON.

AND ROBERTA, I WENT OUT TO
THE BROWNSVILLE REVIVAL.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM
AS HUNGRY,

MAYBE HUNGRIER THAN YOU.

I DON’T KNOW WHETHER
HUNGRIER OR NOT.

BUT I WENT TO ALL
THESE PLACES.

I WENT TO ALL OF THE
REVIVALS,

AND STEVE HILL BECAME A
FRIEND OF MINE.

HE WAS THE SPEAKER,
PRIMARY SPEAKER THERE AT

THE BROWNSVILLE CHURCH
IN PENSACOLA,

FLORIDA. AND YOU
WOULD LITERALLY RUN AFTER,

THEY WERE SUPPOSED
TO COME TO YOU.

ROBERTA: YES. SID:
BUT YOU WOULD,

WHY WOULD YOU RUN AFTER THEM?

AREN’T YOU TOO
DIGNIFIED

FOR THAT? ROBERTA:
OH LISTEN, I’M NOT A VERY

DIGNIFIED

PERSON.

MY HUSBAND WILL ALWAYS
TELL YOU THAT HE’S THE

QUIET ONE OF THE FAMILY,
BUT NOT ME.

BUT YOU KNOW, I WAS THERE
ONLY FOR A FEW DAYS AT A

TIME AND I COULDN’T WASTE
TIME BECAUSE I WAS FROM

BARBADOS.

I TRAVELED NINE HOURS AND
THREE PLANES TO GET TO

PENSACOLA.

SID: TELL ME ABOUT THE
TIME THAT YOU DON’T EVEN

KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED,

BUT PEOPLE REPORTED WHAT
THEY SAW.

ROBERTA: YES, I HEARD IT.

WELL AS YOU SAID, I
WOULD RUN,

NOT RUN, BUT I HAVE JUMPED
OVER PEWS THERE TO JUST

GET TO WHERE– SID: YOU
WEREN’T VERY DIGNIFIED.

SORRY, WRONG IMAGE.

ROBERTA: NO.

I WOULD WEAR THE PROPER
ATTIRE AND I WOULD CLIMB

OVER THE PEWS AND I WOULD
GO WHERE I SAW SOMETHING

HAPPENING.

AND THIS PARTICULAR TIME–
SID: I WISH YOU WERE

ALWAYS HUNGRY FOR GOD AS
ROBERTA IS.

I PRAY THAT THE PRESENCE
OF GOD JUST OVERTAKE YOU,

THAT YOU WILL HUNGER AND
THIRST FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS

AND GOD SAYS YOU WILL
BE FILLED.

SO YOU’RE HUNGERING
AND THIRSTING,

AND YOU’RE RUNNING OVER
THE PEWS.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED?

ROBERTA: YES.

WELL I HAD TO GO TO THE
OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE

CHURCH FROM WHERE I WAS
SITTING AND I PUSHED MY

WAY THROUGH THE CROWD, AND
THIS GUY LAID HIS HAND ON

ME.

I DON’T KNOW IF IT WAS
STEVE OR MY MIKE BROWN,

OR THE PASTOR.

I DON’T REMEMBER THAT.

BUT ALL I KNOW IS I HEARD
THIS MAN SAY,

“LOOK AT THAT WOMAN FLYING
THROUGH THE AIR.”

AND I JUST FLEW THROUGH
THE AIR AND I WAS DOWN ON

THE GROUND, AND I WAS
THERE FOR A LONG TIME,

AND I COULDN’T GET UP.

I HAD TO CRAWL BACK TO
MY SEAT.

I MEAN, IF THAT’S NOT A
HUMBLING EXPERIENCE.

SID: WHY COULDN’T YOU
GET UP?

ROBERTA: THE POWER OF GOD
AND THE PRESENCE OF GOD.

I THINK THAT’S WHAT I
LOVED ABOUT THAT REVIVAL.

I REMEMBER WHEN WE
FIRST WENT,

WARD AND LYDIA, MY SON
WARD WENT FIRST AND THEN

THE WHOLE FAMILY WENT,
EXCEPT FOR ONE DAUGHTER

WHO WAS REBELLIOUS AT
THAT TIME,

BUT SHE’S FINE NOW.

BUT MY OLDEST GRANDSON WHO
WAS ONLY 12 AT THE TIME,

HE CAME RUNNING TO THE
FRONT AFTER THE SERVICE

AND HE SAID, “NANA, WHAT
IS THIS?

WHAT AM I FEELING?”

AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE
PRESENCE OF GOD.

HE KNEW THAT THERE WAS
SOMETHING THERE HE HAD

NEVER EXPERIENCED, A
12-YEAR-OLD,

AND THAT WAS SO WONDERFUL,
THE PRESENCE OF GOD.

SOMETIMES I FEEL RAIN ON
MY FACE.

SID: RAIN?

ROBERTA: RAIN.

SID: LIKE DROPS FALLING.

ROBERTA: THIS FINE MIST
LIKE IT’S VERY HARD TO

EXPLAIN, LIKE A MIST
OF RAIN.

SID: I HAVE FELT THE SAME.

I KNOW.

ROBERTA: AND IT WAS THE
PRESENCE OF GOD AND THE

POWER OF GOD.

GOD WAS THERE.

YOU’D WALK INTO THAT
SERVICE AND GOD’S PRESENCE

WAS THERE, AND THAT’S WHAT
I HUNGER FOR IS THE

PRESENCE OF GOD.

I HEARD HEIDI BAKER SAY,
YOU GO TO A MEETING,

THE PRESENCE OF GOD
IS THERE,

WELL YOU CAN JUST AS WELL
GO TO THE TAVERN OR

SOMEWHERE, BECAUSE WHAT’S
THE POINT WITHOUT GOD’S

PRESENCE.

SID: LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING,

GOD’S PRESENCE IS ON THIS
SET.

ROBERTA HAS BEEN HAVING
DREAMS AND VISIONS,

BUT THERE IS ONE IN
PARTICULAR,

ROBERTA, ABOUT THE JEWISH
PEOPLE.

TELL ME ABOUT THAT.

ROBERTA: WELL THAT WOULD
HAVE TO BE LIKE 25 OR 30

YEARS AGO NOW, BUT IT’S AS
REAL TO ME NOW AS IT WAS

THEN.

AND I WAS TRAVELING IN
CANADA.

I WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE
DURING THE NIGHT AND I

FELL ASLEEP EVENTUALLY.

AND I HAD THIS DREAM, AND
IN THE DREAM I LOOKED UP

AND SAW THIS BLINDING
LIGHT FROM HEAVEN AND I

HEARD THIS VOICE
SAYING TO ME,

“ROBERTA, MY PERFECT WILL
IS FOR YOU TO MINISTER TO

JEWISH PEOPLE.”

AND I SAID, “OH
NO, GOD, NO.”

AND I LOOKED UP AND I
COULD SEE LIKE A THRONE.

I COULD NOT SEE THE
PERSON ON IT,

BUT LIKE AN OUTLINE THAT
THIS BRIGHT WHITE LIGHT

THAT WAS BLINDING.

AND YOU KNOW, I AM SURE
GOD DID IT SO THAT I WOULD

KNOW EXACTLY, BECAUSE AT
THE BOTTOM OF THIS THRONE

WAS THE THRONE OF GOD.

I SAW THE WRITING: “THE
THRONE OF GOD”.

AND THREE TIMES HE SAID
THAT TO ME,

AND ALL THREE TIMES I
SAID,

NO GOD.

BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN A
FAIR CAME UPON ME AND I

THOUGHT, BECAUSE HE SAID,
“MY PERFECT WILL.”

AND YOU KNOW, IF WE’RE NOT
IN HIS PERFECT WILL WE

DON’T HAVE THE PEACE.

I WANT TO BE IN GOD’S
PERFECT WILL EVERY DAY.

EVERY DAY I SAY, LORD, I
WANT TO WALK IN YOUR WILL

TODAY.

I JUST WANT TO DO THE
THINGS YOU WANT ME TO DO

AND BE THE PERSON YOU WANT
ME TO BE.

AND SO I KIND OF ARGUED,
BUT THEN I SAID,

LORD, IF THAT IS WHAT YOU
WANT ME TO DO,

I’LL DO IT, BUT YOU WILL
HAVE TO SHOW ME HOW.

AH, AND SO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW
LIKE-

SID: YOU KNOW, ROBERTA,
GOING BACK TO THE EARLY

’70S WHEN YOU SAW JESUS
AND HAD TO BECOME A

BELIEVER IN THE MESSIAH,
AND WHEN I WAS RESCUED

FROM THE DESPAIR OF THE
NEW AGE AND I LITERALLY

WAS GOING TO DIE, AND THE
PRESENCE OF GOD CAME IN MY

ROOM AND REVEALED JESUS
TO ME,

THERE WAS A MOVE OF GOD’S
SPIRIT ABOUT THAT TIME

AMONG JEWISH PEOPLE.

MANY OF THE LEADERS OF THE
MESSIANIC JEWISH MOVEMENT

TODAY CAME TO THE LORD AT
THAT TIME.

BUT JUST AS THAT DOOR
OPENED,

IT SLAMMED SHUT.

AND WHAT I BELIEVE,
ROBERTA,

THE REASON YOU’RE SHARING
THAT WORD FROM GOD NOW

AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS
IS THE RAIN THAT’S

BEGINNING TO FALL ON
JEWISH PEOPLE.

I HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE
MESSIANIC JEWISH

CONGREGATIONS IN ISRAEL
AND THEY TELL ME EVERY

WEEK THAT SABRAS, THAT’S
NATIVE BORN ISRAELIS,

ARE COMING TO THE LORD,
NOT JUST JEWISH PEOPLE,

BUT MUSLIMS, BOTH.

WE’RE COUSINS, MISHPOCHA,
THAT BOTH PEOPLE GROUPS,

THERE’S LIKE A WINDOW OF
OPPORTUNITY.

I’M GOING TO PUT YOU ON
THE SPOT SINCE YOU TOLD ME

YOU WERE SPONTANEOUS.

I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE
CAMERA AND TALK TO A

JEWISH PERSON ABOUT WHY
JESUS IS THE MESSIAH.

ROBERTA: WELL APART FROM
THE SCRIPTURES,

IT’S ALL THERE.

IT’S WRITTEN IN YOUR BOOK
THAT HE IS MESSIAH.

AND WE WERE TAUGHT FROM
YOUNG TO EXPECT HIM TO

COME AND HE HAS COME
ALREADY.

AND I JUST WANT TO
TELL YOU,

IT IS THE MOST EXCITING
THING BECAUSE I’VE BEEN ON

BOTH SIDES, IT’S THE MOST
EXCITING THING TO BE A

MESSIANIC JEWISH PERSON,
TO BELIEVE THAT YESHUA,

JESUS IS THE MESSIAH, TO
FOLLOW HIM.

HE IS THE HEALER.

HE IS THE DELIVERER.

WHATEVER YOUR NEED
IS TODAY,

YOU MIGHT BE SICK.

YOU MIGHT BE GOING THROUGH
PAIN AND CONFUSION,

AND EMOTIONAL STRESS, AND
HE IS THE HEALER.

HE IS THE ONE.

HE IS THE PERSON WHO HE
SAID HE IS.

HE’S THE SON OF GOD.

HE IS EVERYTHING TO ME.

SID: AND YOU CAN BE LIKE
THAT BUTTERFLY THAT IS

STUCK TO THE CROSS.

BUT BETTER THAN THAT, YOU
CAN BE A PERSON THAT THE

MESSIAH OF ISRAEL
WILL SAY,

I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU.

I WILL NEVER FORSAKE YOU.

THIS EARTH IS GOING TO
SHAPE ONE MORE TIME.

YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A
MENTAL GIANT TO REALIZE

THAT, BUT YOU WILL BE KEPT
IN PERFECT PEACE IF YOU

WILL KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE
MESSIAH OF ISRAEL,

THE ONE THAT CAME, LIVED
AS A MAN,

AND ACCORDING TO ISAIAH,
BORE YOUR SINS AND

SICKNESSES ON HIMSELF.

IF HE BORE IT ON HIMSELF,
WHY ARE YOU BEARING IT?

DO YOU KNOW THE WORD
“SICKNESS” IN THE GREEK

MEANS EVIL.

HE TOOK THAT EVIL UPON
HIMSELF AND BY HIS

STRIPES, HIS WOUNDS WHERE
HIS BLOOD CAME,

AND EVEN THE TALMUD IN THE
BOOK OF LEVITICUS SAYS

WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF
BLOOD THERE IS NO

FORGIVENESS OF SIN.

EITHER JESUS IS OUR
MESSIAH OR WE HAVE NO

FORGIVENESS OF SIN.

THAT’S THE DEAL.

AND AS FAR AS I’M
CONCERNED,

IF YOU LIKE YOUR LIFE THE
WAY IT IS YOU’RE MESHUGA.

I KNOW.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO
KNOW GOD,

NOT RELIGION, IF YOU’RE
MUSLIM,

STAY MUSLIM.

IF YOU’RE JEWISH, STAY
JEWISH, COME TO KNOW GOD AND BE

OBEDIENT TO HIM AND
HE WILL GIVE YOU THE REASON

WHY YOU’RE LIVING THE
PURPOSE OF LIFE. L’CHAIM.

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