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hello I’m Sid Roth your investigative

reporter my guest was a High Priestess

of Satan most people think that this is

just cartoons a figment of someone’s

imagination I mean the devil is sewing

with a red suit and a tail and horns and

and Flip Wilson says the devil made me

do it

but it’s real lissa Gwen how did you

originally get into Satanism my

motivation was I was raised in a very

abusive home environment a victim at a

very young age and that victimization

will often make you look for power for

control for ways to not become a victim

anymore

you know I remember at a very young age

going I will never be hurt like this

again and trying to find ways to ensure

that and the enemy is very you know he’s

very capable a satanic worship the

occult witchcraft ESP all have a draw of

power on them this was a very very

appealing when you had an abusive

stepfather that you wanted to get the

edge on so to speak right but how does

how does a young child I mean how does a

young child get into Satanism there are

a lot of different factors for me I can

tell you that media played a big role I

remember growing up one of my favorite

songs was about a woman who had the

title of the witch in the song and she

could hold men spellbound by the look in

her eyes you know to sing along with

those words into dream of having that

much power over our abusers you know I

had a friend who was also in an abusive

situation we kind of bonded together

just to get each other through you know

two of our favorite shows we’re about a

witch in a genie television shows and

young impressionable kids in situations

of being hurt and abuse all the time do

you know what a what a draw it was to

watch these shows and to wish that all

we had to do was switch our nose or

blink our eyes did you believe that when

we’re watching it you

will believe anything when you’re in a

situation where you’re being violated

driven down torn apart and shredded

emotionally

you’ll grasp to any hope in any port in

the storm you know and in desperation

you’ll be you’ll begin to believe

whatever you can with us we went to our

just our school libraries lots of books

on ESP increasing your ESP ability lots

of books on witchcraft you know our

school libraries are full of books on

the occult but but you had an uncle that

helped you on yes I had an uncle related

by marriage who was the only adult for a

long time that listened to me that that

seemed to respect me we would sit and

have long talks because as I began

studying about the supernaturally occult

and ESP and things of that sort he would

encourage me in those studies and I had

no idea he was a satanic priest and so

he was pretty much grooming me to be

incorporated into that lifestyle did in

other words you didn’t know that he was

a satanic priest would it have bothered

you if you knew it probably not I

probably would have found it very

appealing and more than likely so did

you reach a point where this power

stopped your stepfather from abusing you

yes I remember him coming toward me once

and I stood there and I an visualized by

the time this happened I had these

lovely little imaginary friends people

that that I could only see you know how

kids have imaginary friends but my

imaginary friends I believe were so

powerful actually what what it was was

spiritual forces that I had put myself

into agreement you know contract with

that put an R and a power around me that

when he came toward me and I was like no

way and he literally backed away looking

like this how old were you at that time

I was 13 took all that time and I was

already a Satanist at that time I was

initiated at age 12 No

most of what I know about that is you

see on television but that’s not even

the tip of the iceberg

how bad is Satanism very prevalent you

have to understand Satanism is not just

active worshipping of Satan Satanism is

any religion or practice that that

fosters man’s belief in himself and his

separation and independence from a

higher power from God you know as we

understand him to be no but I read about

sacrificing children isn’t it is this

for real that’s for real

if you let your imagination run wild

with you a lot of what you believe in

picture about Satanism is real the

problem comes with media media has been

desensitizing people for years and years

and years you think it’s intentional I

think part of it is yeah I believe that

we have spiritual forces that are

working daily to keep the general public

doubtful of their existence or you know

one of the things that that you’ll do in

a warfare is you’ll try and make your

enemy think you don’t exist yeah that

way you can run rip shot a room and

he’ll never great no he’ll never take up

arms against you and so Christians for a

long time in media have been played as

you know you always see Christians in

movies standing up to the dragon in and

you know spiritual people using

spiritual powers of good and they always

end up you know getting chewed up and

spit out you have the meanwhile you have

the witch you know trying to do good

things with bad magic and they’re coming

out on top or you’ll see all of this

gore displayed as far as the occult and

it’s so portrayed in such an extravagant

manner that people believe that’s all it

is is extravagance rather than realizing

all of that is based in reality well why

do they sacrifice a child in Satanism

Satanism is predominantly based in old

law what you would call Old Testament

I for an eye tooth for tooth goes back

to the original sin of man which caused

an animal to have to die for God to make

skins to clothe you no man because he

fell sin has always led to the shedding

of blood and therefore the shedding of

blood has always been a way of paying

for sin okay but also there’s life in

the blood and you know every pagan

religion in the world requires some kind

of sacrifice some kind whether it’s

animal grain person you know it’s like

what you give up for your God it’s all

based in works there’s no grace okay

Lisa how did you feel when you saw a

life being taken the first time

terrified I blocked it out for years and

years didn’t recall it for a long time

eventually you get hardened to it you

realize that what you’re doing is you

have a need to achieve a certain power

or a certain goal and if one person

suffers because of that that’s the

costume what why didn’t have a need to

achieve a certain power a certain goal

why did you have a need by that time my

whole identity came from what people

told me I was and who people told me I

was my abilities once you get involved

in the kingdom of darkness it’s like a

dog-eat-dog mentality blunt gunslinger

mentality and so you progress you know

from power to power to power and there’s

always somebody trying to knock you out

but your whole identity is consumed with

what you can achieve and how much power

you can get for yourself in control what

do you think would happen when you died

I believed that I would go to be with my

master in the kingdom of darkness thing

would be given the position of rulership

there but certainly you heard about

Jesus Jesus to me was a man who was

stupid enough to find himself nailed to

a cross he was a good man okay he had a

message from God but unless people took

advantage of his message then they had

no authority to stop you and if they

chose not to learn how to stop me then

they didn’t have a right to take to keep

anything I wanted to take

okay time came when they wanted you to

have a child so that they could

sacrifice it or or use it in some way

why in the world did you find this

distasteful

it’s differently insurance you know

that’s an ultimate thing by the time

they asked for that I had had two major

experiences in my life that had started

me on an adventure of questioning

everything that I’ve been taught for 20

years all of the spiritual laws and

principles that I had been taught that

gave me the right the legal rights to

use and manipulate and control powers of

darkness I was beginning to question

because I had two encounters that were

not supposed to have been able to happen

like what the first was I was moved to

another state and that’s often done

they’ll position people in different

states because they view it

territorially they want to you know

maintain control in certain areas so I

was moved to this one state and one of

my assignments was to tear apart or

destroy the Ministry of this one man who

had started teaching in spiritual

warfare what why would you care about if

Jesus didn’t exist what difference does

it make if you terror a minister apart

or not what’s the big deal because this

Minister believed in everything that

Jesus did and he was standing on

spiritual laws that were superior to

ours for example you know a person could

die a Popper if they never knew they had

a million dollars in a bank most

Christians believe they had a million

dollars in the bank they just never go

withdraw it okay so this man was making

trouble for your kingdom Frank what was

the objective what did you want to do to

this man this Minister we wanted to get

him out of ministry however that we had

to do that and if we couldn’t do that

destroy him kill him I had you or your

friends done this with other ministers

previously yes I will tell you at the

specific time that I was sent to this

one city we had five other people

positioned one was in a major city where

a major ministry felt as a result of

that yeah how do you try to do to cause

a ministry

well you look for weaknesses for vices

that you can manipulate any sin loophole

area impropriety you find his greatest

source of counsel in unity you know if

he has a partner for a church for

example you would look at the pastor and

associate pastor of the pastor in the

music leader you know find the strongest

source of unity and you divide it divide

and conquer

okay what happened when you went into

this particular church I went in I kept

sending people in first you know to go

in in what we called infiltrators and

they weren’t coming back some of them

were just not getting anywhere we’re

just too embarrassed to come back and

admit failure because that’s you know

that’s a no-no I mean you just don’t

admit failure or weakness so you now at

the level of your right you’re going to

go in and take care of business right

because I had people above me that we’re

sitting on me go and why aren’t you

getting this done okay so here I go in

to handle it myself I’ll tell you what

when Lisa comes back we’re going to find

out help she took care of this ministry

don’t you tear :

we will return to it’s supernatural

right after this

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hello I’m Sid Roth here investigative

reporter I imagine you didn’t even run

to the refrigerator to get some food

during during the break because my guest

was a High Priestess of Satan and her

job was to go into churches and cause

the the pastors or the leadership to

fall and just because the power in this

one particular church was hurting her

kingdom and she had sent other people

there to disrupt their church and it had

been successful so Lisa Gwyn you WA you

decided you’re going to take care of it

what happened well I went in under the

guise of wanting help from this pastor

who was was doing so much counseling and

helping people with occult pasts and and

my encounter with him was really shook

the foundation of everything that I had

been taught I was taught that I served

the ultimate power well you know five

minutes after I walked through the door

he began to pray to his God and what

that did to me was was really wreak

havoc and it caused all of the demonic

powers that I thought I hadn’t

controlled to pretty much come out

manifest themselves you know the room

began to fill up when he prayed and

really they began to threaten me because

I had taken them into a situation

against a power that they couldn’t stand

against and I after that point I began

to question everything I’d been taught

in Satanism about the power of darkness

because I’ve been taught that I served

the supreme ruler in darkness the

supreme power go out there if they’re

afraid of this Christian minister while

you’re alive then how about the

repercussion of what happens when you

die I mean you thought you were assuring

yourself a kingdom with Satan but right

I can’t even handle things in this life

it’s true that’s true

Satan’s pretty much just a spoiled brat

who knows his king is near and he’s

pulling out all the stops to keep his

little fan Castle Kingdom from being

washed away well so did this minister

tell you to accept Jesus and did you I

he did but I didn’t why everything that

I knew about Jesus was no power okay all

the churches I had ever been in and a

lot of the Christians I had known just

were wimps you know they said God was

all-powerful but they were always going

through all these circumstances they had

no power yeah I know but at this

particular one there was obviously power

so why didn’t you accept Jesus another

factor involved in that what’s like

after a while you are so used to the

kingdom of darkness you believe you are

of the kingdom of darkness and you can’t

change it’s like holding out you know

it’s like a homosexual that thinks they

can’t yeah thinks he’s chained that

there’s no other option yeah but they’re

quickly be carrying of an apparent

option you know the Lord began to just

put miraculous circumstances in my life

God began to orchestrate people that

came into my life oh there was a person

came into your life you you were

instructed to have a child for the sake

of sacrifice and you rebelled you didn’t

you didn’t want to do that right and so

you Rand yeah weren’t you afraid yeah I

was but I knew when I made the choices

that I made I knew that if I ever

decided to leave they would come and

kill me

and I accepted the consequences of that

and they sent an infiltrator tell me

about him well I kind of fell in love

with this guy that I thought was a cat’s

meow you know he’s everything I ever

wanted

and after six months of living together

I discovered that he too was a high

priest that had been sent just to keep

tabs on my life I confronted him with

that knowledge managed to separate

myself from him and shortly thereafter

found out that I was pregnant and he

made it real clear being a high priest

he said now he said that’s my ticket

that child’s my ticket and faced with

that option abortion became my option

which he didn’t take lying down you

don’t do that you don’t you don’t abort

the child of a high priest and so he

pretty much broke into my apartment the

next day with some of his friends

destroyed just about everything and it

and beat me so badly I was told I would

never have children

and at that point I ran I ran out to the

west coast I buried myself working for

the motion picture studios just trying

to hide and but you had a grandmother

that didn’t give up on you that knew how

to get in touch with God and one day she

called you she would call me all the

time through the years you know I would

be in the midst of sin and hear the

answering machine come on and I’d hear

her say day lord have mercy child I

don’t know what you’ve been doing but

I’ve been talking to God and he told me

to call you and tell you to stop you

know he said those are things when she

said those things what did you think I

used to think man grandma’s just she’s

got it all together you know she really

she knows about spiritual power I never

thought about the source of that

spiritual power you know but when she

called and told me she said I don’t need

to know everything you’ve been involved

in don’t want to but you need to find a

man who believes in the power of God a

preacher or somebody tell them what

you’ve been involved in and ask for help

and I did and got no results

why well the first church I went to the

pastor got kind of scared and said you

know we don’t want any trouble here and

showed me to the door because a lot of

churches although they affirmed the

power of God they deny that there is a

devil they take half of the Bible and

believe it and throw out the other half

the other pastor didn’t believe it where

I said still another one told me well

what you have to do is you have to pray

every day and go to church every week

and read your Bible every day and he was

giving me all these step-by-step things

to do and I looked and I said that

sounds like ritual to me and if I’m not

mistaken its ritual that got me in this

condition and so I gave up but

fortunately you saw someone on

television yeah I did I started watching

this minister on television and and he

had a rather miraculous powerful

television show and I found out he was

going to be in the area and I decided

that I would go and check him out and

see if what I was seeing on TV was true

and the last meeting I started to leave

and through just a series of events and

people chose to stay and he opened his

sermon that night was saying I don’t

know if you’ve ever had the devil visit

you

in your home and he began to share in an

encounter that he had had with a demonic

presence and he had my attention and I

listened to what he said he began to

pray afterwards and called out miracles

and healings and things and he said if

you felt the power of God get down here

well I didn’t feel anything but this

person next to me pushed me out into the

aisle and I was kind of caught in the

flow because obviously hundreds of other

people had felt something and they were

all crammed in the aisle and I was like

I had no choice right so I am ended up

getting up onto the stage and he prayed

for me and nothing happened

absolutely nothing happened and I walked

off the stage and here this teenager

again that had pushed me out in the

aisle to begin with came out and said

get back in line you know you came here

for something don’t leave without it and

I told him I said no I know where the

line is I crossed it the point of no

return and I can live with that but on

my way out the door here came this

teenage boy again with his pastor towing

him toward me saying help me pray for

this girl and that pastor confronted me

with a question he said what do you want

if God or Jesus were standing here and

asked you what you wanted what would you

tell him and I began with my list you

know I wanted to know what peace of mind

was what it was like to say the world

word beautiful again what it was like to

sleep more than two or three hours a

night without things moving in my room

or voices I want to know what peace was

and as I gave him my list I noticed that

my face was wet and I reached up and

wiped these tears away and I guess the

shock really showed because this

preacher said what and I all I could

stutter was I didn’t think they worked

anymore

well I realized I was crying I had said

years before when I last time I had

cried I said I would never shed another

tear when I was 8 years old

because I was falsely accused of

something and it’s so wounded me and the

person that accused me said see she’s

guilty because she’s crying if she

wasn’t guilty she wouldn’t be crying and

I viewed tears of something so horrible

but through those tears he asked me he

said if God could give you those things

would you give him a chance and I said

certainly I struck a deal with the devil

once I can certainly do the same thing

for God and give him a try and he led me

in a prayer acknowledging I was a sinner

in

asking the Lord to forgive me and that

began the change in my life everything

from the next couple of days what

happened that night when you went oh I

started driving in from San Jose down to

Los Angeles and the more I drove the

drunker I got I mean I was getting

queasy

I hadn’t had anything to drink alcohol

but I felt drunk and I remember stopping

to get gas and I was washing my hands in

the bathroom and I started laughing you

know just laughing I was so drunk and

laughing so hard I ended up throwing my

wallet to the door you didn’t drink

alcohol no all I can say is God was

doing spiritual surgery on me and the

laughter was an anesthetic he was using

laughter you know the Bible says that

laughter works good like a medicine he

was using that laughter to do a lot of

healing inside of me because I had

gotten into Satanism from woundedness

you know and you can’t just quit

something when you don’t get rid of the

cause you know you can treat the symptom

but if you don’t get to the wound you’re

just going to substitute another symptom

you know so the Lord used that and he

began to do surgery on me and for a

couple of days I was just drunk when I

made it home I went to sleep at 11:30 in

the morning he hadn’t slept for two days

went to sleep at 11:30 in the morning

had never slept more than an hour to a

night I woke up 9:30

the next morning 22 hours later in the

same position I went to sleep in how’d

you feel still drunk and it’s been

nothing but a change ever since a great

adventure of watching the Lord take me

from step of freedom to step up for you

yes but you don’t leave as a High

Priestess of Satan and just say bye-bye

guys and our believer in Jesus I

understand the daughter of one of the

top priests were the top priests

in the world of Satan came after you

tell me about that yeah they sent

enforcers which are people that will

either kill you or take you back to kill

me

three enforcers I found myself out in

the desert and I told them in the name

of Jesus you have to let me go they did

I should have told them in the name of

Jesus you can’t touch me because I was

pretty much a little bit worse for wear

we go but the Lord delivered me out of

that situation and you know and later I

asked the Lord why how did they do that

because I knew these men who didn’t kill

me we’re going to be killed for not

fulfilling an assignment and the Lord

took me into the book of Romans where it

says that if we’ve you know been buried

with Christ in Baptism if we’ve entered

into the family of God then we’ve been

buried with him into his death and that

the old me the only one they had a

license to kill was the old me she’s the

one who did all of those things and when

I accepted the Lord I became a new

creation and as long as I keep the old

me dead he will keep the new me alive

that’s how I walked away the devil’s got

power you know that yeah are you telling

me that he’s got nothing compared to the

power of God nothing he has counterfeits

wrapped up in pretty packages that he’s

been using from the beginning of time to

fool people into thinking that he’s got

the ultimate power so that folks will

never know that there is not just an

ultimate power in God but part of that

power is the strength of love that God

has for people if you do not know God

you don’t know love if you do not know

acceptance you have no way of coping

what’s what’s going on in this world to

know God is to know love to know God is

to know the Jewish Messiah Jesus when

you repent of your sins and you turn for

them and you say I believe Jesus and

died for my sins

you are washed clean

and God will live inside of you

and God will give you a peace like what

you’re experiencing right now some of

you are experiencing the peace of God

right now as soon as we’re through you

do business with the Living God

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