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there’s always somebody around the

corner talking to you saying if if you

was my man

I Was Your Woman

and and it’s and it’s really not true

but it is the Trap we fall in

because we have a tendency to go to

where the claps are

[Music]

you know uh fatherhood for me is the

responsibility of provision

and protection

but there’s also a responsibility to

nurture and connect

I think those last two I learned as I

went along

but my natural instinct and and might I

say the daunting task

of providing took up a lot of my life

and a lot of my time

and uh trying to make sure that

everything was there and that when you

turned on the water it ran and then the

lights came on that there was always

food in my Xbox men often get

preoccupied and focused on that not

because they’re not interested in their

children or their wives it’s just that

it’s not as easy as it looks

and today the roles have changed a

little bit you know sometimes the woman

makes more money than the man there are

situations where uh the man is at home

nurturing and the woman is providing so

there are no stereotypical relationships

today like there were when we were

raising you all

what do you think is like one of the

most challenging things that you face as

a father whether internally or

externally with our you know different

obstacles first of all

uh all you have to bring to the table is

all you have experienced

okay

so when my father got sick when I was 10

he died when I was 16.

before I before he got sick he was a

very very big on building business and

work ethic and and being relentless and

being tenacious and a lot of that I got

from him so when I started parenting or

when I got married you bring into the

relationship whatever your definition of

being a father is

and being better just as you go along uh

the idea of parenting of fathering a

daughter was intimidating for me because

I knew what a boy wanted from his father

because I have been a boy wanting from

my father

I had yet to learn What a Girl Wants

from her father

one because I’ve never been a girl and

never don’t plan to be what

uh but but secondly because that

relationship did not act out in in the

reservoir of my experiences that

father-daughter relationship and so I

had to learn that as I went along

so

so I mean I know now because I’m older

what I wanted as a little girl and I

think I understand it now more because

it’s also kind of what I desire in my

relationship with my husband and I think

it’s to be seen and to be told how

valuable I am and how much I am

appreciated I think that so much of a

woman’s self-esteem part of the reason

why we build it on whether or not we’re

married or whether or not someone finds

US attractive is because of that

validation that comes from a father do

you know now how much that you know

affects oh absolutely yeah absolutely

you learn as you go kids don’t come with

manuals

so you learn as you go you get better at

it as it goes along the other thing that

you have to realize about parenting and

particularly for we’re talking about

fathering but this is also true about

women

at the time that you’re having children

you’re growing too

so it it wasn’t me that fathered you

right it was 30 year old me wow

it was it was your age you that was

fathering okay so so you gotta

understand

the time of life you’re in when you’re

still trying to figure out you

and now you’ve got somebody else to be

responsible for not only emotionally

self-esteem and the things you’re

talking about but whoever whatever the

school requires whatever uh has to be

done in their life for the doctor for

the dental business for the recital and

get the instrument get this done get

that done got to come up with Christmas

got to come up with Thanksgiving got to

come up with Thanksgiving dinner all of

those are bills to men

see their experiences to women but their

bills to men

yeah so so

Merry Christmas ho ho for me

is you got to make this happen you gotta

buy their gifts and your gifts from them

to you

and by the dinner and sometimes cook the

dinner in our case

that’s a lot to do in between doing what

you do for a living so so all of that is

pro and let’s go back to this the first

victory

no matter how poorly a person provides

emotionally or financially

uh in your life the first victory for a

man is that he didn’t quit

because most of the people suffering in

this room are suffering from a life you

knew nothing about

that some of them don’t know who their

father is

some of them were abused by their

fathers some of their fathers ran away

and the child thinks that the father ran

from them

but in all likelihood the father either

ran from your mother

he ran from the relationship that was

going on with her at the time or he ran

from the pressure

of being this iconic individual that was

intimidating for this 20 year old or

this 25 year old individual who who is

unfinished himself

who is flawed and broken and and the

whole family unit is predicated on the

fact it has to be a place of

unconditional love it has to be because

God isn’t through raising anybody in the

house

anybody in the house and it’s very

important that you understand that

because if you don’t give that

elasticity to a man

he will leave

he will leave for the lack of uh being

understood

and being received because he wants

everything you want

everything you just said that you want

that’s everything I want I want to be

seen I want to be valued I want to be

affirmed I want to be appreciated and I

want to I want it to happen after work

and so in between all of that that’s

everything your mother wants

so everybody wants so you come home to

hunger

tired

so when you come home to hunger tired

and and face criticism which I didn’t

but some men do

it makes you want to flee either back to

work or away altogether

to The Grieving women in this room who

feel like my father-in-law didn’t love

me he wasn’t there for me very seldom do

men leave their children

they leave their situation or they leave

their spouse and they don’t know how to

build a relationship with the child

apart from the mother

or the mother won’t let them

so you mentioned elasticity

out there

and we’re like how do you balance not

wanting to be like over critical and

nagging or judgmental but also having

legitimate you know things that you want

to be able to discuss whether it’s in

the father relationship or even a

relationship with a husband

with mankind is everything

timing is everything it is not what you

say it’s when you say it

not when I first come in the door

don’t meet me at the door with a bunch

of complaints I’m trying to find some

refuse I’m trying to find some peace and

men in most men uh

need a cave a detox spot

to to refuel from all the things that

happen to you at work

where you will often belittled

mistreated hated on ostracized and to

survive that and come home and running

the persons you’re doing it for have a

list of what you didn’t do

it makes you feel unappreciated and

here’s where the problem comes in

there’s always somebody around the

corner talking to you saying if if you

was my man

and I Was Your Woman

and and it’s and it’s really not true

but it is the Trap we fall in

because we have a tendency to go to

where the claps are

not the criticisms

if you do have something critical to say

pick a time that your emotions are not

involved in it

because you have to understand

uh men know whether in the workplace or

at home or in life we don’t communicate

like women

we communicate very differently and so

understanding what you mean is a process

my your mother will tell you my famous

line with your mother my famous famous

all-time 37 year old there has never

been a year in the 37 years we’ve been

married that I didn’t say this at least

a hundred times during the year

what do you mean by that

because what she said and what I heard

are often two completely different

things

and the same thing is true in reverse

what what I said versus what you hear is

too different that

I might say I don’t like your dress and

you might hear I don’t like you

we we can compartmentalize one issue

from the other and and speak about the

issue and then wonder why the individual

is mad

because for us it’s about the issue

it’s not about the individual but the

woman often feels affronted a b most

women grew up without a man so she wants

me to be her girlfriend in pants

six she talks to me like she want a girl

and she receives from me like a woman

communication male communication is very

different it

has like when PT talked to me

he’s hardly take it take it sometimes if

it weighed direct and like well why did

you what were you thinking when you did

that and then I become defensive and now

I have an attitude and even though I

grew up in the house with the men I

think there’s something about him saying

something that suggests I didn’t do it

well enough that maybe brings up this

little girl who wanted to please her dad

and so now it’s not just him saying I

didn’t do this one thing well I hear all

of these things that I didn’t do well

throughout our relationship

[Applause]

the first mistake is you married your

father I didn’t know that until about

six months into it and that’s when I

realized that they’re the same people

like really

being direct for us isn’t always an

attack

let me show you the opposite of it

when when a woman comes home to talk to

her husband

she says uh he wants to know what’s for

dinner well I left work I knew we didn’t

have any green beans I had to go by the

store and get some great spirits the

traffic was absolutely everywhere do not

know that I had to go to Kroger’s where

they got green beans five cans for a

dollar and wait in line I ran into Helen

while I was there and you know I don’t

like Helen and he’s sitting there just

you want to take your lip and pull it

completely over top of your head

because all I wanna know is

so so psychology teaches that women

circle around the issue

you circle around the issue we we come

down like a helicopter right on the

issue a machete I like to call it

we’re your protectors but this is it a

direct a direct statement from me

doesn’t necessarily mean I’m angry at

all

doesn’t necessarily mean I’m angry at

all and so when you get angry and

defensive I feel misunderstood

I got a big amen I heard it come from

before I I feel misunderstood the the

three men that are in this room are

praying hard for me okay

so what what you have to understand is

that I I feel misunderstood

by just being straightforward with you

and and and and let me say this as it

relates to marriage

you can get married in 30 you you can

you can have a wedding in 30 minutes

but it takes 30 years to have a marriage

by the time you learn how to read each

other

you have raised your children

you have buried your parents you have

been in every conceivable situation

together and you have drawn conclusions

and the reason that this is so difficult

that it starts generationally and passes

down you you already have the advantage

of having some sense how to read them

and you know how you and I could talk

across the room and never say a word

okay I can talk to this girl and never

part my lips

we will look at each other and burst out

and start laughing and have said a word

to each other

that innate instinct is very helpful in

reading your husband

even though sometimes you read that he’s

displeased with you uh because he said

criticize something that you did but

it’s funny that you would say that about

him because with me though I am direct

and we’ve had our moments look at the

way she’s looking at me

one of my greatest father-daughter

moments with you was after you were

started to write

and you’ve wrote me something and sent

it to me and I was in LA at the time and

I was busy and I was very direct and I

I’m embarrassed how direct I was I tell

you it wasn’t good and I didn’t know

what you meant you needed to write it

over

I did

when she when you later wrote the book

I called you I was called you from my

desk and I left a message of your

voicemail and I said I was going to read

the book because I’ve always been their

guinea pigs anything they cooked I ate

anything they they wrote I read so I

said I’m going to read this book because

you’re my child but when I started

reading it

it was so well written and so well done

I couldn’t put it down

the pace the Rhythm the truth the

storytelling the description was

impeccable and then you taught me

something you called me crying

and you said I want to keep this message

forever

oh don’t do that

and and you said something to me that I

will never forget you said because this

girl is extremely

she’s real deep she said

what gave your compliments so much

validity

it’s the criticism that preceded it

the fact that you had the courage to

tell me when I was wrong

makes me believe you when you tell me

I’m right

we’re gonna get through this

okay

that trust

that trust is so important whether it’s

your partner

or your father you got to be able to

trust that what I’m telling you is true

okay it might not be nice to hear it

might not I might have landed like a

helicopter it came down like a machete

but you have to trust number one first

of all I am always gonna be for you

so that that never comes into play I am

for you when you’re right I am for you

when you’re wrong I am for you when I’m

hurt I’m for you when I’m shocked

there’s there’s nothing you could ever

do that would change the way I feel

about you that is absolutely

impossible period take that off the

table

and once you settle down into that

and that’s what you want to look for in

a man

is somebody who can go through tough

times

disappointments mistakes ride or die

okay admittedly we all have our

weaknesses

okay and women often bring up to men

their weaknesses

but there is a difference between first

of all women have weaknesses too

and they are more merciful often about

their weaknesses and Ours

because what we want from a woman as a

as a as a husband

what we want from a woman is for you to

love us like you do your sons

because while you’re looking for Daddy

I’m looking for Mama

and the way you love your sons I don’t

care what they do I don’t care what when

they did it I don’t care which way they

win I don’t care what mistake they made

and I don’t care if they ran the red

light I don’t care if they rob 7-Eleven

mama is still gonna be down there

talking about wait one minute that’s my

child you fooling

your husbands your boyfriends see that

and they long for that okay so they long

for that that kind of love and

affirmation if you can take off the

table the fact

that whatever I said I was still for you

then how I said it becomes less powerful

when you know that it’s one of your

teammates saying it

I’m on your team

I’m on team Jake’s okay I’m on your team

and the guy sees himself on your team so

when he makes it when he makes a

coaching remark you can’t coach anybody

for greatness and just be nice

can’t do that you not for football not

for basketball not for golf a coach is a

good coach when they challenge you and

they get in your face and they’re trying

to they’re not trying to say you’re not

good I’m trying to get you from good to

great

okay and and a man a good man has to be

strong enough to even withstand being

misunderstood because really most of the

time fathers are appreciated more in

depth than in life

because when you look back at it it

looks different than in the moment when

you’re doing it you understand what I’m

saying I think part of the reason why I

have the work ethic I do is because of

how you coach through my teen pregnancy

I’ll never forget you telling me you can

you can survive this but you’re going to

have to hit the ground running I think

what I know now that I didn’t know then

was what exactly it was I was trying to

survive and I think that what I thought

I was trying to survive was becoming

daddy’s little girl again where I could

be seen as innocent again and as pure

again and I think when I got pregnant

that coaching kind of translated to me

that you were so far from that that

there was going to take a lot of work

for you to get there so when you talk

about hold it

it was never about you being Pure or

innocent

I assumed you were human

when you cried into the world

that was never the issue

that is seldom the issue with men

we your mother says I’m the least

judgmental person she ever met we will

give each other slack for days and days

and days when a man says another man’s a

dog he’s a dog

he’s a real bow wow okay so he’s a real

bow wow

it wasn’t

the nature of the relationship was not

built in my mind on pureness or

innocence

it was you

see but it was it wasn’t that for me

because I thought like we I was like

daddy’s little girl you are I know

but I felt like

I could do something that would make me

lose that remember

that’s not possible

that’s not possible you could scare me

to death

I could be worried today if you could

break my heart you you could do all that

kind of stuff but there’s nothing you

could ever ever ever do

ever do

that would change how I feel about you

see knowing this is important because

this is the first glimpse into

understanding what Jesus meant when he

prayed and said our father

that that that is an irrevocable

relationship the rest of your life

if you’re 900 years old you’re still my

baby girl if you got no legs you my baby

girl if you’re a hole on the street

shooting dope you steal my child

don’t you ever forget that don’t you

ever ever forget that I don’t care what

I don’t care what and as long as I’m

breathing

in this world I will fight for you I

will come and get you I will drive the

getaway car

[Applause]

I will judge me if you want to I would I

would rather get away car I will be

fussing while I’m driving it I will be

calling you names and this don’t make no

sense it’s just stupid aren’t you a

phone what were you thinking about but I

will be driving the car

that that kind of understanding leads us

to this should we be more temperate we

learn to be more temperate with time and

age

but you you’re impressive and crushing

by the way I’ll be signing crushing

after this at the lobby the crushings of

life means you’re raising your child

at the same time you’re raising yourself

because this is a new role for you as a

father

so a lot of your fathers did not do this

well because they didn’t know how

it’s the only role a man often has to

play without a script or a blueprint

if he didn’t see it demonstrated at home

putting a ring on his finger doesn’t

make him a husband

handed him a baby doesn’t make him a

father what is what is that

and then there’s nothing worse than

having a woman tell you what you ought

to be as a man

because it’s like me trying to tell you

what you are to be as a woman I don’t

know anything about being a mother what

the magic your mother has with you is in

another realm all together it is

mystifying it is amazing it is beautiful

it is emotional I could never be her in

a thousand years she could never be me

so a lot of times what happens in a

relationship both of you are acting like

you know what you’re doing and you don’t

so you’re telling him when a husband

ought to be and what a man if he was any

kind of man you would do so and so it’s

a truth is you don’t know what you’re

talking about he’s telling you what a

white father being what a woman ought to

be he doesn’t know what he’s talking

about and the humility of admitting that

neither one of us are sure is what

brings you to your knees and says God

help us to do this we don’t know what

we’re doing we don’t know how to act

there are certain parts of my mother I

don’t want to see in me there’s parts of

my father I don’t want to see in me help

to burn out of me the chaff and so that

I am left with the wheat so that my

mother’s mouth doesn’t get in the

conversation or my father’s temper

doesn’t get in the conversation you know

you know you know we got these ghosts

we’ve we’ve all got these ghosts and

those ghosts are relationship killers

understand this that in real time speed

when you confront a man he very seldom

will come right back at you

because we heard you

but we’re going to go away and three

days later we’re going to come back you

know the other day when you said

because we got to go think about it

because when I tell you something I

wanted to be sure that that’s what it is

so in real time speed you’ll out talk me

or I’ll clap up

and you’ll win the argument but maybe

lose the war

I was explaining to a brother just

recently

often when a woman feels attacked her

weapon is her mouth

for sure so she so she she throws it at

you because she feels victimized

men don’t really understand that because

we’re going to wait three days and when

I come back and tell you something I’m

going to be pretty sure

so I take words seriously

so when you start just defending

yourself because you do you see yourself

as this little girl being jumped on or

not pleasing dad

I take those words to Heart

because

I wouldn’t say that to you unless I

thought it through

so I don’t know that you’re

still processing out loud

so so we got quiet in here

this is why marriage is hard work

uh getting father-daughter relationship

is is easier because sex isn’t in it

and it’s less complicated

so so I’m clear as to what my role is

but for you okay and it is not bad so as

long as that part if if a man’s been out

of your life for years and he wants to

get back into your life the reason it

doesn’t go well is there’s no Foundation

what he has to learn to do is not to

come into your life after 25 years of

being gone and try to be your father

who is he and what is the nature of his

business and who are you on the phone

with no no no no no no no no no no no no

no you lost all of that you’ve been gone

for 25 years don’t roll back up in here

and try to be Daddy after being gone 25

years you you’ve got some Foundation to

build

our relationship my relationship with

Corey my relationship with you has a

foundation up under it so that even when

we Face disappointments amongst each

other it might rip up the carpet but not

the foundation

laying that Foundation is a process that

takes years one other point I want to

throw in quickly we tend to raise

our same gender children

and spoil our different gender children

a man tends to be tougher on a boy

because he’s trying to get him ready for

what it’s like to be a man

and and you can spoil the girl

and a woman tends to be a little tougher

on the girl because she knows how tough

it is to be a woman

but her son can get away with murder

so the boys the boy fools the woman all

the time the mama she just wasn’t she

just wasn’t right when you heard no way

come on over here baby you you’ll need

you to see that dig down into him and

men need to be down into I need

to be confronted

and I need what I give so if I speak to

you and say you need to do this better

and that better and that better that

wasn’t good I want that I need that if I

trust you like that

that is a privilege of having

relationship with me is is there are a

few people that I want to receive that

from very few I can count on my hand to

have fingers but I want to know if I

didn’t do a good job and what was not

good about it and how can I fix it so

when I’m coaching you or I’m into it

with you I’m trying to make sure you win

because I don’t want them to attack you

I don’t want them to attack you I will

jump on the Instagram and fight them

off

with or without scriptures

you understand

is that helpful am I going to for sure

is that helpful