How To Date For A Counselor // Damaged But Not Destroyed (Part 7) // Michael Todd & Panel

hi my name is Bri and I have the

privilege of serving as Chief of Staff

here at Transformation Church at TC our

vision is to represent God to the lost

and found for transformation in Christ

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that God has a word just for you so

let’s jump into today’s

message it is week

seven of a series we’re calling

damaged but not destroyed has anybody

been helped by any of the weeks of this

series

okay so today I’m going tell you I’m

going give you a road map where we’re

going okay if you’re taking notes go on

pull your notes out get your phone ready

I’m going give you a road map okay for

six weeks we have been dealing with the

damage and the truth of the matter is

some of us have been dealing other

others of us have been

watching people deal with the damage

did you see how quiet it just

got because the truth is it is very fun

to watch somebody else

squirm and

deal and go through while they’re trying

to

heal it’s it’s sometimes fun to watch

like look at them

struggling look at them going through

and and and you’re on the

sideline in full pain

full

denial and still not

healing we’re not doing this whole

series so that we can check off a

religious box on your Sunday

experience this series is so that you

can get healed somebody say God desires

God for me to be healed to one more time

God desires God for me to be healed for

me to be healed do you want to be healed

great great

right there were still people that know

God’s

desire and looked at me when I said do

you want to be healed and they were

quiet do do you want to live at the same

level of insecurity the rest of your

life do you want to to not be able to

celebrate those you actually love for

the rest of your

life it’s time to do some work

people always act like the healing

happens at the

altar and I just want to let you know

that healing happens when you leave here

this usually is the Catalyst for your

healing but if the only time you spend

working on the issues that God or the

Holy Spirit reveals to you in this place

is when you come back to this

place you’re not actually getting

healed so so today

as we spent six weeks talking about it

today I’m going to try to compel you

into a step of

action I can’t make you and most people

will want to go ahead and preach the

house down and get some good Clips so

the Saints will know around the world I

care nothing

about building a platform if there is no

fruit in your life

and there are too many people worried

about building a

platform and the people that are around

them are

fruitless guys it’s time to do something

with the

damage not just claim

it the worst thing we could do in this

series is glorify the

pain and many of us won’t admit it but

when we do we stay in glorifying it and

what we glorify in the pain and the

trauma becomes our excuses of why we

can’t reach

purpose and today I’m coming to lovingly

challenge you as your pastor and I

started thinking what could we do to

help people like actually move forward

and then I started asking my community

and my tribe what did we do to actually

move forward to actually go from knowing

something was ja

up to actually moving into a place where

God could heal it however he wanted

to cuz healing is fine as long as it’s

how we want it

to but when God starts asking us to do

stuff we ain’t never done before and our

family never done before and even asking

us to do stuff that cost a little money

healing should be free Jesus Paid It

All somehow we back up off the

healing so

today I brought the people to the stage

some of the people who have been closest

to my healing Journey if you read

damaged but not destroyed you know your

boy been through some

things and and how many of us have been

through some things okay hands up if

your hands not up you’re a

liar if you’ve ever been through some

things and you’ve never dealt with those

things the things are still with you

okay some of you are carrying around

1986 you’re carrying around

2004 you’re carrying around James John

and

Jack you don’t see them

physically but they’re Weighing on your

soul every

day your confidence is gone because of

something you’ve been carrying since

high school what I’m asking this church

to do not every Church the rest of the

world can stay bound if they want

to if they want to but so can you but I

decided as as the leader of this house

that we not going to play

Church I’mma take a whole Sunday to

convince you that you need

counseling

[Applause]

I just offended a lot of

people because your pride has you

thinking you got

it I’m just generationally divided the

room cuz the seasoned

Saints I

counseling I ain’t telling nobody my big

well H H how how that little boy going

to help

me oh these are things I’ve actually

heard H how is somebody going to help me

and I’m twice their

age you’ve been twice as

me I just thought it was

important to teach everybody in

here what the Bible says about

counseling on so this is not just an

opinion of mine this is not just a a a

great

idea today we’re going to share and I

know I’m all I’m asking we going we

going we G to do it a little shorter

than we regularly do because I know some

of y’all it’s going to start

uppercutting some of us cuz today is

going to be confirmation for some cuz

God already been done told you it’s time

to

talk for others of you there’s going to

be conviction

cuz you’re going to feel the Holy Spirit

saying you remember when you was praying

to me and saying God I need a

change here it

is and for others of you in here this is

going to be the day that God is saying

it’s time to consecrate this next

season I need you to set this next

season apart and call it holy you know

what the word holy means

separated set apart

I need you to not be so excited to be

outside that you don’t deal with the

inside great and so today the title of

the

message is how to date for a

counselor y’all like

dating and the truth of the matter is is

that most of us feel like counseling is

something we either hit or

miss I want to take that stigma off of

it you’re going to have to

date and find the counselor that God has

assigned to you in this

season to help you with the issues you

have right now great

great and some of us why you say date

Pastor Mike I ain’t going to marry him

I’m not talking about marrying your CS

but

if he’s

single some of y’all need to ask God you

need to lift your hands and tell him

thank

you but but but but what I am saying is

I want to switch the mindset is from I

got to find a counselor and people try

one

time they weren’t the one for me that

was three years

ago well how do you find a counselor

they act like it’s climbing Mount

killerman

jarro my question back to you is how do

you find a car

how do you find where you’re going to

eat how do you find those shoes that

that one girl had that you don’t know

her name but you screenshotted it and

you zoomed it

in y’all know what them fingers are the

zoom in

fingers it’s one

word you

search and God says a lot about

searching and seeking and

finding but when it comes to the things

that we actually need in our lives many

times we don’t go after it so today I

brought my family onto the stage y’all

will y’all give it up for the med Cs and

the davises and my wife Natalie and

today I’m not going to preach we’re

going to have a

conversation this conversation has

scriptures attached to it this

conversation has real life experiences

attached to it but all of us in this

room have to deal with the true reality

it that most of us have never talked

about most of the things that have

happened to

us sit with

it you know stuff that nobody else

knows you are holding

stuff that nobody has ever helped you

carry not cuz they

wouldn’t because you never were

vulnerable enough to give it to

them so today just want to see if we can

start down a

path to I don’t want to even say

convince the word is compel great I want

to compel you into a step that may be

more spiritual than anything else you do

this year Charles can you give them a

scripture about counseling yeah well the

Bible’s clear um

there there are two things one the

there’s the question uh well statement

that you’ve made over the course of this

past series that we believe in Theology

and therapy thank you like we believe in

both of those things so it’s not just

one because you can study your Bible and

still not know why when you see that

certain thing your chest gets hot and

then you start talking about like there

are still things in your body that are

happening like and I heard one leader

say it this way that Jesus may be in

your heart but your grandpa’s in your

bones so that’s why you lash out at

certain people that’s why you talk like

there are certain things that just in

your family you grew up with and when we

talk about why Theology and therapy

there are two reasons that we’re going

to talk about today the first one is

this is worked in our life like this is

a practical thing that we’ve act we’re

not talking you from Theory we’re not

talking from um um ideas this is worked

in our life and it’s very clear it is

wise this is about getting wisdom how

many people in this room would benefit

from getting wisdom raise your hand if

you desire wisdom and some of yall like

I don’t want to be wise I just want to

do my thing okay God bless you um but I

want to read you this scripture it says

this in Proverbs 12:15 the way of a fool

is right in his own

eyes that makes sense of some of our

whole seasons of life right there that

one scripture the way of a fool is right

in his own Wise Eyes but a wise man

listens to advice Jesus we would be

honest with you you wouldn’t have done

it if you didn’t think it was wise in

your own eyes come on just be you would

not have dated Ricky if you knew he was

a bum you did but but when y’all was

dancing he just look you know the way

the light hit him there are so many

there are so many things that if we were

just honest with ourselves you know in

the moment I thought it was wise but I

realized I didn’t I didn’t get Counsel

on it so today is all going to be about

getting counsel the truth of the matter

Charles is advice takes humility

yeah many of us get to a certain stage

and age that we are not humble enough to

take anybody’s advice yeah I even need

to go to the religious people that you

say the only advice you can take is from

the word of

God and it’s because it’s the only thing

that you feel like is older than you age

has nothing to do with

wisdom it can great it can I not I know

a lot of older dumb

people no no can I be very serious with

you I know a lot of older people that

are stubborn yeah and I know a lot of

younger people that are Stu the Bible is

saying it is wise to be humble enough to

take somebody else watch this their

perspective great on a situation and

there are things you may be missing just

cuz you won’t even consider

it like there are certain foods I would

not like right now if somebody else

didn’t come to me true story I did not

grow up like in

strawberries and I don’t know why I

don’t know if I didn’t have strawberries

or if I tasted nasty strawberries but my

wife loves

strawberries and my wife was like you

should eat strawberries Mike I think you

would eat strawberry I said you don’t

know my taste buds I got you with

strawberries and uh pancakes fresh on

top cold I mean y’all I didn’t know it

was a thing and now you never eat

pancakes without strawberries and

whipped cream now hold on I didn’t tell

you to tell all my

pisses don’t forget I was only talking

about the strawberries

but the balance to everything yeah but

what I’m saying yeah what I’m saying

is perspective everybody say the word

perspective

perspective if you’re not allowing

anybody else perspective it’s a problem

great great and this is the one thing

that we wrote down in a point so so that

there can be handles to this

conversation you if you’re taking notes

you can write this down many times

wisdom is outside of yourself

great great the wisdom that you need

will not be found just in your

brain the wisdom that you need to be a

parent or a father or a a a a business

owner is not just like I’m a wing it I

just I’ll go with my

gut yes sometimes you go with your gut

but sometimes you need to read a

book great and I think we’ve overp

spiritualized some of the help that we

need unless God tells me well God did

tell somebody to write that book great

great great and he told you to read the

book but you still on page

four I’m saying that the

perspective of the body of Christ and at

least Transformation Church I’m asking

us to Value counsel advice perspective

that is not our own so good and when you

do that it changes everything you got

something Charles well I just realized

that there were a group of people a long

long time ago who didn’t want to hear

the perspective or new ideas from

someone that they didn’t recognize his

name was Jesus

Christ he was 30 years old and came and

started telling people who had read more

scripture than he had who had all more

the the degrees than he had and they say

who is this man that says he can forgive

sin it was someone trying to bring in

literally a new paradigm that because

they didn’t like how he was talking and

who he hung out with they decided let’s

not listen to what he has to say let’s

kill him let’s kill him and could it be

that there’s someone at a different

stage of Life at a different point in

your life that has the wisdom that would

literally save your life but just

because we we I think there’s so many

times where because of how people look

because of our own perceptions where we

shut people out and the Pharisees did

that to Jesus and they didn’t get the

wisdom that he had to offer let me give

you another scripture Proverbs 15:22 I’m

going to give you a lot of Bibles so

that you can understand that this is

what God says about us having counsel it

says without counsel plans

fail but with many advisers they

succeed I like this scripture because in

the last 10 years of my life God put a

lot of pressure on me because of purpose

and I could have said all right if God

gave me this pressure I’mma figure it

out by

myself we would not be here today I

thank God that I don’t just have an

advisor one counselor I have tons of

people I’ve gotten so used to counsel I

got counselors for my money I got

counselors for parenting I got

counselors for relationship I have

counsel for Spiritual things it says if

you do not seek counsel your plans fail

nobody wants their plans to fail this is

the key for some of us of why our stuff

keeps not happening how we desire it to

be it might be that we’re missing the

ingredient of advisors that will give us

a Brand New Perspective write this down

for everybody so we can give you some

some keys to this most people think

counseling is weird the Bible says

counseling is

wise when you accept that in your heart

I’m just I’m submitting this to you

today God’s brought us here to just give

you maybe a different perspective I want

the Pastor Mike that’s yelling and

saying crazy faith it doesn’t matter if

you get it and you can’t hold it great

great cuz of all of the things that are

undal with I am sitting right now in the

middle of so many situations of people

who God’s done extraordinary things for

and their life is falling apart because

they’ve never dealt with their

issues and today I think Charles even

the week we’ve had counseling people

behind the

scenes this message comes with

conviction because you don’t have to be

close to death

to get

Deliverance that’s so good we’re having

to revive people and marriages and

families that are one step away from

being

over but if you could listen to the

council that’s on this stage right now I

want you to know that there is a

different way to deal with your issues

and the things that are going on in your

life let’s take a second and clarify

counseling real quick Bri I need you

because you are the only one on the

stage with more degrees than a

thermometer you are the only one that I

don’t know if you have a doctorate or

Masters you have a whole bunch of things

Bri the only one that went to college up

she the only one that get she honestly

is the only one qualified to talk to

y’all that is incredible can can you

just hit us with the different Lanes of

counseling so um today specifically

we’re going to kind of jump into three

different Lanes of counseling the first

one being Community counsel this is just

Community this is your friends this is

spouses this is parents people that are

just in our community and honestly

regardless if we know it or not every

single one of us are being counseled by

our community the people that are around

us they get to speak into our lives they

get to give us advice whether it’s good

advice or ill advice somebody’s always

telling us something that they think we

could do better or whatever the case may

be so Community Council is the first

Lane the second lane is spiritual

counsel this is specifically when you

have someone as a pastor

or a mentor personally I have a

spiritual director which is someone that

once a month I have an hour with this

lady and all she does is ask me I’ll

bring something to her and she says what

do you feel like the holy spirit is

saying to you about this half our time

is in silence honestly it’s just me

processing what the Holy Spirit may be

saying but spiritual counsel is someone

that’s coming from the angle of a

Biblical perspective and they’re just

asking you different questions probing

questions even giving you Biblical

advice something that you could get just

in everybody can have a spiritual

counselor whether that’s a mentor or

someone that’s close to you and then the

last one and this is the one that has

been so Taboo in the church world it’s

been completely awkward to even talk

about sometimes but this is professional

counseling this is someone that actually

went to school and has a degree and not

only has a degree but a license in your

state to counsel you many different

types of counselors out there there are

trauma informed counselors there’s

family system counselors there’s all

kinds of counselors that are out there

but these are people that actually have

a degree and license to sit down and not

only give you advice but give you advice

from a psychological perspective because

they have studied the human brain and

human behavior and that’s exactly what

we want to encourage today is that we

all take a step if you have not already

to get in professional counseling every

single person up here is in professional

counseling yes it’s not just Community

Council which we have in our friendship

and we have in our community it’s not

just spiritual Council where we have

people that are mentors or pastors but

also sit down across somebody one on-one

and have professional counseling because

God heals us often times through the

other people that are around us that’s

great it’s important for us to know that

it’s not just in your own quiet time or

your own time with the Lord often times

healing has come to my life and our life

because we’re sitting right across from

somebody and we’re able to share our

story with them and hear what advice and

wisdom they have to give us as a matter

of fact James 5:16 says confess your

sins one to another pray for one another

and you will be healed in other words

healing happens with other people that’s

great that is the way God designed

healing to be is to be with another

person when I confess my and the word

sin doesn’t just mean that you’re doing

something wrong in that scripture

specifically it means your wanderings if

you have wandered from your identity if

you have wandered from God what God

feels about you if you have wandered

from your purpose you confess that to

somebody and then you pray for one

another and that’s when healing actually

takes place in our life Natt you have

something yeah I when I started going to

therapy

um I think what helped me at first I was

like okay I don’t know this person I’ve

never been to therapy I don’t want them

knowing on my business and I definitely

don’t want anybody from ok that was my

thing or whatever so anyway she made us

go to Colorado I didn’t make us honestly

this was brie we’ll get to that later

but um tell Story the thing that helped

me the most when she started talking was

um she was a Believer as well so she Not

only was licensed and all these degrees

and stuff she specialized in trauma

therapy um which I also didn’t feel like

I needed I was like I’ve been shot nine

times like I haven’t you

know like why do I need a trauma

therapist so we’ll get to that later too

she needed a trauma therapist but the

thing that uh got me was is that she

opened my eyes because even when Bri was

saying they study the brain they study

your your your hormones your chemical

balances and what that does and all that

sounds really sciency so I think that’s

also why the church kind of backs off

because science and then Faith it’s like

I don’t know but I’m like she’s what she

told me was what you don’t realize is

God created our bodies to work like this

so it’s not like somebody sitting behind

a desk and is telling us this from what

they studied it’s like no they’re

finding out how God made our brain how

God made our hormones and if those

things are off balance God made it to

where we’ll have

certain um it will show in our body

we’ll feel stressed we’re tight in our

shoulders we have headaches we can’t

sleep we feel numb um we feel like we

can’t express our emotions the thing she

just said how many of us feel stressed

numbed uh pains in our body things that

like come on hands high I need everybody

come on okay when Bree said when you

said um what did you say confess your

sins one un another so when you’re in

freeze which is a lot what I was in it’s

you’re kind of in this numb kind of area

and a lot of us are in freeze so we get

grown and we’re like I got to talk to

this about nobody you’re you’re froze

it’s not coming out and so even in the

scripture when he says confess on one to

another there has to be something that

comes out so if you’re froze you’re not

going up you’re not really going down

you’re just trying to stay kind of like

right here or I’m too grown I’m not

going to deal with it or time has passed

and I’m just going to let time heal it

which is not true I’m going to let time

heal it or you know I’m too mature for

that and you know those are just

different ways to say you’ve hit the

freeze and it’s flight fight Freeze or

Fawn and that freeze one is what gets me

a lot but there is the fight you you

didn’t maybe feel like you were heard as

a child that’s what therapy is for and

you feel like I have to get aggressive

for people to listen to me I have to

speak up and uh what’s another one

flight what I say you run away oh uh

Fleet yeah that’s another one I’m out

I’m ghosting you I don’t even know who

you are I don’t even know this man who

has like like real strong I’ll cut you

off game like I will cut you off

immediately yes that is a trigger

response to some type of trauma look at

them they like girl me too like before

they knew they got like yeah oh it’s a

trauma response okay okay now who is

fight like fight people who are the

people that’s like I’m and it’s not and

the thing is the fight isn’t because

because it’s it’s a it’s a false sense

of control that you’re trying to protect

yourself or you’re trying to fight for a

cause or whatever but you feel like this

is how you have to communicate it

because it’s probably what you saw

growing up and F the fond people who are

the people Pleasers in the room right

now come on let’s be honest oh okay I

really would hate to come over your

house and eat your food but I’m coming

anyway like if it makes everybody

peaceful yeah I’m just going to do and

who are the freeze people like something

starts happening you just well and then

the Fawn the Fawn gets me I was some of

that too was because you may have been

the person in the family that like you

didn’t get in a lot of trouble you felt

like you couldn’t really get in a lot of

trouble or I’m just trying to trigger

certain thoughts and maybe you don’t

think you’re any of these and you

realize oh maybe I am um you realize

it’s a false sense of control because as

a child I realize that’s how I got

attention is when I did well or I helped

I saw needs very easily I put myself

last um trying to take care of I needed

to help my mother I needed she needed my

support different thoughts like that um

can be a sense of fawning so so let me

ask everybody around here just so we can

be hot humble open and transparent when

was the first time you went to

counseling and I need y’all to just take

about a minute and a half and tell us

Abby I want you to start when did you go

to counseling and what was it for and

how did you feel when that happened uh

yeah so I was 11 the first time that I

went to counseling um that’s white kids

for you cuz I no black people ever been

to C 11 oh my God autic in this room wa

here up here will white people yeah

white people white people one for white

people way to represent babe okay okay

no I was we’re so glad you’re here 11

years old hey we have I’m sorry Abby she

get from us all this is how we do all

time like this is for is going to get

red just wait for it not today no um my

parent very serious not my parents had

just gotten divorced and all within six

months like the three biggest men in my

life all kind of left so my dad left my

mom my uncle was in a gang and he was

murdered in a drug deal and then my

other Uncle um moved to Brazil so across

the world and um I think that’s the

first time in my life that I just felt

deep abandonment in it uh now that I

look at it I’m like oh that’s the way

that I that’s why I’m so try to be so

strong all the time and try not to rely

on people and all these things but yeah

so my parents put me in counseling when

I was 11 and I love that you’re we’re

talkinging about dating for a counselor

today because the first time I went was

not the best counselor for me it was not

good at all it was not good um literally

I was 11 years old and she gave me this

list she was like you’re probably

dealing with a lot of right now so

here’s some um practical things that you

can do grab a

marshmallow and the person that you’re

mad at draw their face on this

marshmallow put it in the microwave and

watch it

explode now and and listen I remember

being 11 years old and thinking I don’t

think this is

good that’s some other white people

stuff for you that’s some utter crazy

put the marshmallow in there and draw

their face on it then she told me to

draw it on an egg throw it against the

fence if I needed to get a wet towel and

like stand in the shower and just like

hit the wet to was trying to turn you

into a murderer crazy yeah that’s what

first year marriage Abby and the shower

like sweetheart what are you doing

what’s going on no tell I think there’s

a story I know that you said you

remember this picture in your mind the

moment you decided to be strong do you

remember that you were saying like you

saw this is I just took us there but I

think it’s super important because cuz I

think a lot of us have moments in our

life that are trauma and our responses

even things that we love about ourselves

the root of them wasn’t necessarily born

from the best no I I remember as an

11-year-old when I think about that day

that my dad left it was very

disorienting for me because my dad um he

he told me every day he was like I love

your mom so much and I’m never going to

leave her and so then when he he sat

down my mom my brother and me and told

us that he was leaving I remember them

like saying like okay there’s something

we got to talk about I thought oh my

gosh somebody’s dying like that thought

divorce never even crossed my mind and I

remember sitting in our front little

office and my mom and my brother were

crying in this big armchair and I

remember looking out the window watching

my dad roll drive away and turning and

seeing my mom and my brother and in that

moment I don’t even remember being like

sad being hurt like what what went

through my mind was I’m going to take

care of them and Nat at conference she

prayed over me something and she was

like you can just give yourself

permission to fall apart and when she

said that I was like I don’t need that

like I can cry whenever I need to cry

and then God brought that back to my

mind and I was like oh my goodness like

I have in trauma I step up and I’m like

all right like I’m going to help you

like we’re going to get through this and

it’s a I mean it’s not the worst

response to have but it’s left

me um with a bunch of emotions inside of

me that need to be released and I don’t

know how much more you keep talking but

no I have some can I read this okay

functional freeze is a survival response

that’s triggered when we experience

chronic stress or over being overwhelmed

people and functional freeze which is

what a lot of us can do can actually

appear to be fine to every everyone else

inside they may feel numb powerless

hopeless they struggle to feel any Joy

or excitement in daily life usually this

is labeled as depression or sometimes

people are told it’s all in your head

the truth is it’s in your body and in

order to get out a functional freeze we

have to allow the body to thaw so you

got to start

feeling or to go into a mobilized State

more than the terms they use got to

start going into action and yeah and it

says you need to start moving your body

walking is the best way to start take a

small step around the block notice as

much as you can visually around you look

at your uh that uh what do they say

exercise they the funny thing is when

you said the marshmallow thing and all

that stuff actually do talk about

screaming in a pillow twisting a towel

really hard um saying that allows anger

to come up and out of your body so it

won’t immobilize you in that free state

it needs to come out you think that

you’re being mature or is a a plus like

what you’re saying Charles to my

character but actually it’s like you

don’t know how to function when anger

comes like so you don’t know what to do

so it actually is immobilizing you you

need to get it out um you might feel

like crying or tingling let you freeze

not tingling me feel like crying but you

freeze in freeze energy is trapped and a

release allows us to get back into our

regulated State okay go yeah yeah so

when my my mimi she recently just passed

a breast cancer but when she was first

diagnosed about 10 years ago the doctor

told her that 80% of women who have lost

a child develop breast cancer and I

think a lot of times we can we it’s like

yeah we know that stress can show up in

our body like you can lose your hair

your yeah you can feel tight or whatever

but like all of these emotions if

they’re not being released if you’re not

able to have a way to to get it out it’s

not just going to leave on its own and

these emotions they they slowly kill us

can can I say this these emotions were

put in us as indicators by God yes right

I need everybody I need everybody to see

your emotions are not the problem yeah

I’m going to say it one more time that’s

great your emotions are not the problem

Lally you do with those emotions great

is what creates the problems and most of

us were not given the tools to be able

to deal with our emotion Counseling

doesn’t solve anything for me and that

it gives us tools to solve things and

what I’m trying to encourage the church

to do is to get some more tools to build

your house that’s great you’re literally

walking around with just a hammer and a

flathead

screwdriver and you’re trying to erect

this mansion that your children and

family will live in and you will not go

somewhere to get some more tools great

great what I’m telling you is for the

beauty that God wants to see in your

home yeah there’s going to take some

skill to actually come into another

level of executing what God has called

you to do and so again our sharing

transparently is just trying to

hopefully get somebody to say you know

what this is a step of faith that I’m

going to take great cuz counseling for

you you give a $1,000 for you go to

counseling some of y’all would y’all no

no no I’m a giveing crazy faith God said

keep the thousand

and spend 110 every week and go see

Martha and and and that would be easier

for you or Chantel what or Shantel you

always use Martha Bessie that’s the

first time I use Martha there may be I

never use Martha I always we need

counseling okay Aaron can you tell us

about the first time you went to

counseling listen brother um well I was

23 but um the reason why I went is um

when I was 21 my father had passed

unexpectly of a heart attack while we

was riding down the street so now saying

that said that I know I know I

know when he was driving down the street

slow

down this is us being his community

right now cuz he tries to like surpass

some stuff say for real bro that’s a

part of my trauma but um

yeah when I was when I was young we was

riding in a car to go get my mom and um

he started kind of acting weird and so I

didn’t know what was going on so a lot

of nuances and details I’ll skip But

ultimately he passed away of a heart

attack in a car um and the ambulance and

fire trucks and all this other stuff and

I’m like a kid but it felt like it I’m

21 but um at the time I just didn’t know

really what was happening I just knew I

need okay so I got to take care of Mama

and so for like two years

um suddenly I started having panic

attacks anxiety all different things and

it’ be only when I’m in the car by

myself and all these other stuff so I

was talking to my older sister she was

like you you never went to a therapist

and I was like no I’m I’m good girl man

just a little panic attack you know I

get a little hot sweat you know what I’m

saying but I’ll be through it Aaron also

cops through humor so we’ll see that a

lot too we all know it going to see all

my issues and n’s going to point them

out I’m sorry I love you thank you so

yeah I like to laugh about it uh because

also because I can cry at the drop of a

dime and I feel very deeply true and um

since I was a little kid so um I went to

counsel at 23 so that’s two years after

something that traumatic had happened

and um I’m not going to lie you can say

I went to couns at 23 and I’m you know

been in counseling now for the last 30

years that’s not true I went to one

session I told him what happened he said

wow how does that make you feel and I

said yeah I don’t like that and I never

went back so so I didn’t make it back to

counsil for the next eight years um

after dealing with that and so a lot of

details in those eight years but we’ll

skip that you just know God we’re we’re

going to we’re not going to skip those

we’re going to let your wife F them in

when did you first okay go to counseling

I first went to counseling it was our

first year of marriage and I found out

there was infidelity in our marriage and

um he’s an idiot he is an

idiot what did you do you better what

did you do no

way that’s a testament of how good God

is the fact that they can have some

sense of

Joy right there very true where I uh

remember I was having a conversation

actually with Pastor Barbara um uh one

of the pastors here at our church who

has been we talked about those three

lanes a spiritual counselor for me um

and she said to me she was like you are

either going to live or you are going to

die from this situation I knew she meant

spiritually and emotionally and I was

just in a terrible terrible place and

really didn’t know what to do we were

very new in Ministry I mean we were all

young I mean it was just it was a long

it was eight years ago but it was just

we didn’t even know how to truly help

one another other than just being there

for one another and so I um ended up

going to counseling by myself and then

Aaron and I ended up going to marriage

counseling together um one of the things

that I love about our story us four is

that we all started going to counseling

around the same time because there was

so much like stuff life is life in life

was life in all at the same time and

this is the crazy thing everything

around us looked like it was purposeful

everything around us looked like it was

blowing up and

blooming and that can be the very scene

of somebody’s spiritual and emotional

death you you can’t look at what’s

happening for somebody to tell how

they’re doing no yeah yeah and this is

why Instagram social media and even the

little side conversations we have with

people and they got a promotion that

don’t mean they doing good yeah that

means they got more money that is true

that doesn’t mean they’re doing good and

we had each other to be able to be like

how was your counseling session we

literally had postcounseling

sessions after the session cuz we we had

no idea what this was and one of the

Beautiful Things is the first time that

I’m going just let you say it when was

the first time that you went to

counseling um I first went to counseling

because Bri said I think

she okay free state what else is going

on uh we we just were not seeing eye to

eye I mean at all I’m trying to go back

there some some details we had found out

that MJ had autism I was the crazy Faith

guy so I was like let’s just put oil on

his head and pray over him and he’s

going to be good and Natalie was like

okay we could do that and but I’m like

Google up till 4 in the morning Google

and everything and there’s so much

information about autism that’s so

confusing I’m like girl just put some

oil on him pray for the boy and he’s

going to start talking tomorrow and she

was like it’s been a month and like

we’re going back and forth and it’s

starting to affect the way that we like

order food yeah so now now other stuff

is just all the time and um and we was

arguing a lot a lot and so then and

that’s why I was like y’all need to go

to Castle and anyway my first time was

brie sent me there she literally booked

and said y’all are going to Colorado uh

just happened to hear about some kind of

intensive something out there and you

should go and I was like ah I’m not

feeling this like what I don’t talk to

people I am I am know what everyone else

needs I am I’m not going to rock the

boat I’m not going to shake it up even

though I could cuz it actually affects

me but I’m going to hold back because if

I do that I don’t know how everyone else

is going to respond and so a way to kind

of have that false sense of control is I

have this

uncomfortable false sense of control

that I can I know I can deal with I

don’t know if I can deal with you like

how you’re going to respond so to

protect me I’m just going to be kind of

good I’m just going to freeze out numb

out I got it that wasn’t working MJ

broke that and um so we’re arguing a lot

she sent me to Colorado I don’t feel

like talking to someone about my

business like I’m the person that kind

of fixes things for other people and I

just didn’t trust this person and so it

took me um tell the truth it took me

anywhere from about a year to a year and

a half two years to say I think I I

might have some issues no lie no about a

year at least a solid year of I don’t

know what you’re talking

about me arguing back and forth with her

of not understanding I’m questioning her

because I’m just like now for what I

remember she told me at one point she

said the degree that you feel the highs

is the degree the degree that you feel

the lows is the degree that you’re going

to feel the highs you have to feel those

lows or you’re never going to be able

and I was like who told you that I’m I’m

like like why and and then you know and

then she’s bringing up like how even God

made Seasons you know things have to die

there goes through a season and it goes

back up and we flourish again there’s

always going to be these waves of life

it’s never going to necessarily stop is

you just learn how to navigate get

better tools to navigate the flows of

life and I was just like like you’re

saying that but what like I didn’t

believe anything she had to say so for a

year and she also told me like she said

honestly she was like like an addict she

was like there are these stages that

they can go through and it’s like one of

them is what problem like I got a

problem and then eventually it’s like

okay I might have a problem and then it

goes to like okay maybe I’ll kind of see

what I could do about it like some

action steps and then you finally go

into making the action steps and all

this you guys is over years I’m trying

to take these steps and two years yes so

a lot of Michael’s counseling and our

counseling happened because we got sent

there and he honestly it was so good

that he he sat in a lot of the sessions

that I had

because uh people will tell you people

that have a more anxious attachment

style someone that can talk really uh

when they get I don’t know something

happens to them and they want to fix it

they want to talk that person had it’s

easier for that person to go into

counseling get action steps start doing

them things to start breaking open well

someone that’s more in a free state that

kind of numbs out it’s kind of like you

need to get thawed out you need to get

like she was like you are ice cold she

was like we just need you to start

getting warm and she was like and to get

you to the place where to fall apart um

which I’ve only done once I need to try

to still in counseling she was like to

get you a place where you need to fall

apart which it needs to happen kind of

routinely she was like you got to get

hot so you need to get like flaming hot

for you to get to a place where you can

break CU these things have to come out

that’s why you feel all this stuff and I

was just like I just didn’t believe

nothing she had to say so it took a good

year and uh years two years and this is

this is what I want to say the thing I

want to bring about

this before he just ends on my this also

did trigger a lot of things for him in

counseling and you had to start kind of

going on your own he has some sessions

without me in the room too it wasn’t

just me no it was us we’re still in

counseling it was us um but the thing I

wanted to draw of the point is is that

it was Breeze care for us that first

sent us to counseling yeah I want to let

you know if somebody says you need

counseling it is a form of care yeah

great it it means that they have no they

don’t have the tools to actually help

you but they actually love you enough I

trust her enough yes to go I was like

all right I will go we knew literally we

got to Colorado didn’t know nothing but

our friend who saw us in need said that

you need counseling and she said she she

knew it so much that she set it up for

us and both of us sitting there like 12

year olds that got sent to the

principal’s office like what are we

doing here but it begin to open up the

pathway to transformation in our whole

life and I’m just saying that we’re up

here in care for

you saying that all of the issues that

you need you just may need more time

than what the church can even provide

for you I’ve talked to Bishop and Pastor

Debbie who have done counseling for

thousands of people over tons of years

and the one thing that they say is some

people just need more time to work

through all of the issues that they have

gone through and we are coming to you

lovingly and caring to say hey

everybody the most spiritual thing you

can do for your children y for your

spouse for your future spouse for the

people you work with is actually go to

counseling okay I know that some of

y’all just squirming right now we almost

done cuz today it’s not about trying to

make somebody get something in this

service the thing we want you to do is

to do something after this service great

great I want you to go to Google some of

y’all doing it right now you need to go

look up Christian Counseling you need to

go in the city and the state that you’re

in you need to make an appointment it

might not be till December 17th and you

don’t have to be patient but you need to

go and do this what were you going to

say next you know how you go on like

YouTube and you like Google how to use

your phone or a new app and all stuff

you really can go into Deep YouTube

search sech researching different types

of therapists and stuff and you’ll like

realize there’s all kind of things out

there also you’re going to date these

people like what we’re saying one

counselor that I had that you guys love

he wasn’t for me I mean to me he don’t

talking about Brent now I know I love

him I love him but he just his style

wasn’t for me he was a little too to me

I feel he was a little too soft and too

understanding I needed someone like I

said I don’t believe what you’re talking

about I needed someone that could give

me back some energy she want somebody to

fight her a little bit a little bit but

I needed someone also to explain

scientifically what is going on with it

and then also tie that in with God I

needed to know I’m a I’m a researcher

and um I needed someone to also give me

push I needed you to push me a little

bit out of my comfort zone and so

there’s going to be different styles and

different so on that let me say this

point a counselor is not someone who

tells you what you want to hear it’s

someone who tells you what you need to

do to heal right okay so so so I I I I

want Aaron to talk about the counselor

that you went to after eight years who

told you something and how you responded

to it yeah um so this is after eight

years of of bliss and uh finally gets

finally got married and some issues

popped up um very big deal um so we go

to counseling so good yeah uh we go to

counsel and after even after issues

arose um there was still some like okay

we’re going to be all right you need to

change and I need to change it’s not

just you know a me situation so we go

find this counselor and the counselor

after maybe four or five sessions I

already knew like two sessions in like

he ain’t got nothing for me like he’s

doing too much um and not doing enough

and then one day he asked me he said um

have you ever considered that you may be

uh may may be addicted and uh and my

mind I said well I mean I feel like it’s

okay to uh be addicted to the things

that God created um these are things

that God made our bodies to function

like this I should I I’m not addicted

you need you need to fix her she’s the

issue and um she needs to be addicted

she needs to get addicted to some things

that God created so um that was what I

thought we left that session and I said

we are never going to him again he’s

crazy right right right right fair

enough so as ghetto as that is two years

later when I was in Colorado holding on

to a Rock surrounded by therapists I

realized a rock a rock no I’m not

playing I was literally hugging a rock

and um balling my eyes out and I

realized like oh my gosh I’ve been

addicted since I was five wow and so um

W yes counselors won’t tell you what you

need to hear but they will tell you what

you need to hear and and this is why I I

need to say this because a lot of you

most people think that counseling is

scary but the Bible says it’s

safe Proverbs 11:14 where there is no

guidance a people

Falls but in an abundance of counselors

there is

safety I I when I first read this it

messed me up because it says when there

is no guidance nobody to give advice

nobody to counsel you on what to do what

not not to do he said it doesn’t say a

person

falls it says a people group

Falls this is why it’s so important for

us to deal with our trauma is because

the thing that switched it for now

Natalie is when the counselor said this

one statement what was the statement oh

um yeah to like you need this to be

healed and and honestly I didn’t think I

needed to be healed like what were you

talk I literally talked like that I was

like I don’t even know what you’re

talking about healed of what I don’t

even know why I’m here I asked you to

say one statement I was in the middle of

something I all that to say I didn’t

have the mo the motivator for me to do

it was not for myself to get healed to

feel better to do this in the third my

motivator came when I finally found that

for my children when I told her I said I

just don’t we through us talking through

sessions I was like I just don’t want my

kids to do and feel the things that I

felt and how I deal with them and that’s

when she told me okay well the only way

that happens is is you transform because

whatever you don’t transform Natalie she

was like it will get transferred no

matter what you do or what you think

because there’s scientifically things

that back this up as well with addict um

behavior and just culturally how you

grew up in your family and so that

became my motivator and through that

other healings and things that I wanted

for myself I was starting to a be able

to see and um yeah so I I need everybody

to understand that the Bible says

counseling is safe and I need everybody

in this place to commit to those three

levels of C in this year I want you to

start praying different pray that God

would give you counsel that’s Community

like this just pray if if you don’t have

it right now and and you start Desiring

it it’ll change the way that you pray

and then I want you to pray that God

sends somebody spiritual in your life to

be a counselor to you not to be God to

you cuz cuz you never need to listen to

somebody more than you confirm what that

body says with God that’s good I need

everybody cuz a lot of times we make

Idols out of people who may have wisdom

and they may have wisdom but they may

they are not all knowing there was only

one omniscient one okay great but you

need that spiritual counsel I can’t tell

you how many times people have come to

me and said Mike you should think about

this you shouldn’t do this but then I’m

asking everybody get this third lane for

Christmas some of y’all need to give out

counseling sessions no more

Jordans no no more

purses they’re they’re literally sitting

they’re a status symbol trying to cover

up

insecurities that you haven’t Ted you

got four

cars and only drive one like I want us

to think about all the things we do to

try to cover the pain to numb the pain

and God’s saying why don’t you let me

heal the pain let me say it like this

okay um I I told Abby there’s an analogy

of most of us that have a iPhone there

is is um this feature that most of us

are unaware that is running all the time

in the background that whatever app you

open it stays open until you actually

close

it and the other day that I was going

through my phone I I realized that my

children take my phone a lot and when my

children take my phone they open apps

that I’ve never thought of like I didn’t

even know was on my phone matter of fact

they put them on my

phone and then I let my wife borrow my

phone and she opened the app and then

Bri and and Aaron was showing me

something so I looked something up and I

and literally I’m trying to figure out

why my phone keeps dying so

fast great my phone literally I’ll

charge it up and literally after a few

hours it’s

dead it was because I had

78 different apps opened on my phone

running at the same time even though I

was not IGN knowledging them come on

wild could this be why you’re so

tired could this be why every plan God

gives you you never can get it off the

ground could this be why the kids you

prayed for you’re annoyed

with could this be when you know God’s

put a purpose on the inside of you you

feel like you have nothing else to give

what’s running in the background

emotionally that you’re saying I’m 60

I’m 7 I’m 42 I’m 21 I don’t need to deal

with that God said you’ve never closed

it right and it’s draining you every day

of your

life the beautiful thing about what

God’s done and I’ve been able to see it

some of us we we all up here still got

apps open but it’s not as many as there

were and and and and for us to come up

here as a leadership team I never saw

pastors come up and talk about their

issues as long as I would like as long

as I been in church pastors are telling

you what God’s going to do and how he

brought me out and when I got the

building and I drive a Mercedes and I

nobody talking about when I was about to

give

up and I just think as a hot Church a

humble open and transparent church I

just wanted to say that you’re not just

dealing with your trauma your leaders

are dealing with it too that’s great and

when we decide to bring all of our

damage to God great he’s the only one

that can take all of it and turn it into

something beautiful absolutely well I

think the experience just to cuz some

people feel the thing you said about it

being scary I think the honest truth is

you have to realize is you may go to

counseling for one thing and that may

not be the actual thing come on and I

just need to say that cuz some of you

feel like oh I just need to go because

sometimes I my my chest feel a little

tight I think I might be anxious the

issue is not just figure out just I

don’t want to be anxious there’s Roots

behind that and just as on your phone as

you start swiping up some of y’all I saw

somebody bust out laughing over there

they like I think somebody had a bunch

of apps but like as you start doing that

you start getting back to things a long

time ago and you realize like oh maybe

I’m just a little anxious and then you

realize well I’m anxious around that

person and well that person reminds me

of so and so and when I was around so

and so I used to feel small and and when

I felt small the way I compensated was

by performing and and when I put the

pressure on myself to perform and I

didn’t live up to that performance I let

down all the people and so then I tried

harder and I overcome like and get all

the way back to usually something from

the age of three or 4 to 8 or 9 years

old some of you could have been earlier

where you made a decision that you don’t

realize was the foundation of who you

are and the beauty of counseling the

beauty of having a therapist is being

able to go back and talk to that person

yes many of us it is not you raising

your kids it is the 10-year-old you who

said I I didn’t get this so I’ll make

sure my kids always and here’s the thing

about that doing the opposite of what

hurt you doesn’t mean you’re healed yes

sir ju I didn’t get no hugs so come here

give me this hug boy you love me or I

don’t know like you have to go back yes

sir and you may have to give yourself

the hug you didn’t get right you may

have to go back and tell yourself I’m

proud of you for making that

decision and as I think we go into this

something we were going to talk about is

the idea of where all of us would be if

we hadn’t been to counseling and for me

I was thinking about this and for me I

started going to counseling because I

was filled with anxiety I was filled

with pressure and the honest truth is I

created two worlds on the inside of me

nobody in New York but there was one

world where I did and lived up to what

God called me to live and there was a

other world where I didn’t have to carry

the responsib ability of what it would

cost me to be that person so I can make

whatever decision I want I could do

whatever I wanted and it was that

pressure that drove me to be in suicidal

and I remember going to counseling and I

realized I was thinking about as we were

talking if I hadn’t gone to counseling I

would have become all my greatest

fears and there are some of you that the

fear of going to counseling you do not

realize the avoidance of that is the

very path that you will become the thing

you’re terrifying of

becoming as long as you avoid that

because you’re afraid well I don’t want

to and what happens if I open up that

box and as long as you avoid that it is

staying on the path because the thing

you’re very afraid of coming is someone

who didn’t deal with their issues didn’t

have tools to say I’m upset didn’t have

tools to say that offended me didn’t

have tools and counseling is simply a

better way and better tools to progress

through I’m going to say this so that

you can leave with this thought you

don’t go to counseling just to get rid

of your trauma

you go to counseling to uncover your

treasure now let me let I need you to

get this this is not about getting rid

of trauma right it’s about God Made You

So Special yeah that life and sin and

crap gets on the treasure to try to bury

it look at this scripture I found in

Isaiah 453 and I will give you Treasures

hidden in

darkness secret riches

I will do this so you may know that I am

the Lord the god of Israel watch this

the one who calls you by name that means

every one of us have a name and when

life comes at us we get covered up but

God says I want you to pray I want you

to read your word and then I want you to

talk to somebody and as you talk to them

it’s going to be like God gets

down every time you go to counsel

every time that you share with your

small group every time that you go and

you write the letter and you journal the

whole time we were up here there was a

treasure hidden under everything that

looked like everything else and as soon

as you

uncover What It Is What It becomes is a

mirror so that you can see who God has

actually created you to be and he made

you in his so when he sees you he sees

himself and many of

us have not allowed God to

uncover we’ve been trying to hold our

family name higher than his

name we don’t want to frustrate nobody

or FR get anybody frazzled but God’s

saying would you let your yourself be

uncovered so that you can display my

beauty as we end this service I want to

let everybody in this room know that

there’s a better path forward for you

than just dealing with

it you can get healed from it great I

hope today wasn’t something that made

you feel like anything else except

there’s a bunch of real people up

here who God’s called he chose us but he

did not take

away the burdens of this

life Reigns on the just and the

unjust but he’s made ways for us to

overcome and one of the ways we overcome

is by the blood of the Lamb that’s what

he did but then what’s the other way the

words of our

story that’s all a testimony is it’s

your indiv individual

Story the crazy thing is there are

people here that have lived four decades

and never told their

story it must be

tired it must be

heavy you holding all of those feelings

and trying to be God instead of letting

God be

God what we want everybody to know is

that everybody needs Christ and a

counselor can can I say it to you that

Jesus even thought this come on y’all

know Jesus thought this cuz Jesus said

Christ is literally right there with the

disciples and he said you know what I

got an idea it would be better if I

go because when I go yeah yeah yeah I’m

going to send you

yeah the Holy Spirit who is is the

counselor great can I I got to read it

to him in the Amplified everybody

standing real quick You Got It Up Stand

Up we going home oh I feel the presence

of God John 16:7

Amplified but I tell you the truth it is

to your

advantage that I go

away for if I do not go away the

helper

comforter Advocate

intercessor counsel

strengthener the

standby will not come to you but if I

go I’ll send it I’ll send the Holy

Spirit to you to be clo in close

fellowship with

you even Christ said I’m not

enough if you going to be on this Earth

you need a Christ and a

counselor what I’m praying is that the

holy Spirit would lead you into all

truth and how can he Lead You In all

into all truth and you’re still

lying today I know it’s been rough for

some of y’all to sit through this whole

service I need some so I need some wow

and pow and

pazow but some of the greatest

transformation that have happened to my

life has come in

Silence has come when I’ve been thinking

when I’ve been sitting in solitude when

I’ve been praying when I’ve been

breathing when we’ve been just sitting

in a room when the spit hit the

fan y’all remember

that it’s like how could we forget

Pastor I’m so thankful for my

community because the next day on that

Monday we were on a flight to Napa

California and me Natalie Bri and Aaron

sat on a

balcony next to a fire not not talking

about nothing but just just letting the

love of God wash over

us and then somebody would say something

it’s like you remember how God called us

to do this and I was like dang why he do

that and then we start encouraging each

other and then we would Bri would say

Mike how do you feel I I’m

mad I’m

hurt I don’t know why and I would just

start to and I would be able to let go

of the stress and attention just that

would come up in that moment enough to

get me to the next

day and then Aaron be like how you doing

today bro I want to I want to get a

marshmallow and draw faces on it and put

it in a microwave and blow them all

up he said cool I’ll go get you some

marshmallows but just having this

community and then having my mom and dad

and Bishop and Pastor Deb and and Tim

Ross

and like my spiritual Community but then

going to see this old white lady in

Colorado and she sat and held my

face and said you don’t have to be that

way

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anymore

and the man you see today at

37 is more free than I’ve ever been in

my entire

life

and I told God that if I was ever to

become a pastor I wasn’t going to keep

any of this to

myself I was going to give all the cheat

codes that God gave

me what I’m saying to my church you go

to another church God bless you y’all

keep shouting and hollering and do

whatever everybody in this church needs

to find a

counselor and I’m just asking you this

is a challenge before the first quarter

of the year is over you’ve gone to at

least three counseling sessions okay

that’s January February March when April

gets here I’m asking everybody go you

some of y’all going to go nine times 15

this is this was your green light you

like shoot counseling I’m

in thank you but for everybody else

that’s like I don’t

know today would you just lift your

hands and we’re just going to ask Holy

Spirit

what are you trying to say to me through

this message you’re the

counselor God and you’ll lead me I I may

not find the first person I go to may

not be it so I might have to date some

counselors I may have to go to some

place but holy spirit you’ll lead me

into all truth father I thank you for

every couple every individual everybody

that even is hearing this message and

thinking it’s for somebody

else God I’m asking you that you would

soften our hearts that you would make us

ones father God that are saying God if

you brought this to me today I’m going

to accept this care and I’m going to

just begin to pray that you give me the

desire to obey what you’ve said in your

word is

wise in the multitude of counsel there

is

wisdom today Father God I thank you that

you revealed to us individually what

this means for us God I thank you that

this church will be

healthy and when I say healthy I’m not

talking about

numbers I’m talking about fruit in their

lives thank you that fathers will be

better fathers and mothers will be

better mothers and teenagers will be

able to deal with this crazy world of

comparison because they have tools

father God to look at you father and

know who you’ve created them to be I

thank you that everybody in this room

father finds their identity in you not

in trophies and performances and

platforms but in their position father I

thank you that the next

generation will have a better

chance because we dealt with our

issues father thank you that you’re

taking us from trauma to

Triumph and God by faith we believe

you’re taking us from trauma to

treasure that you’re moving on the

inside of us God to see a reflection of

you on this

Earth today God every

stigma every

taboo every fear we command it to go in

the name of

Jesus we thank you that generational

freedom is coming to the houses of the

people that receive by faith and today

we accept what you say

counselor be the

advocate lead

us and in Jesus name if you’re in this

room and you’ve never accepted Jesus

today I want to give you the Christ who

lead you to the

counselor you may be hearing everything

that I’m saying and like Pastor Mike I

need help that’s what Jesus died

for and today you may be struggling with

issues that God says I’ll take that too

I don’t care where you been what you’ve

been through today is the day of

salvation we’re not going to belabor it

some of you’ve been feeling that urge

this whole service like I need to make a

change today some of you need to give

your life to Christ for the first time

and others of you need to rededicate

your life you’re in this room the Bible

says that the holy spirit’s been drawing

you the whole time you just thought it

was a feeling it was

him and he’s the only one that if you

give him your heart he’ll help you

change your

habits if that’s you on the count of

three I just want you to lift your hands

and we going to pray together today is

the day of salvation and it’s going to

begin the transformation that you’ve

been believing for one you’re making the

greatest decision of your life two I’m

proud of you but more than that your

name is going to be written in the

Lamb’s Book of Life three just shoot

your hand up if you want to give your

life to Christ I see you I see you I see

you I see you Transformation Church oh

man glory to God glory to

God and there’s tons of people

online Transformation Church you know

how we do we’re a family we’re going to

pray together for the benefit of those

coming to Christ everybody say God thank

you for sending Jesus

just for me today I give you my life I

believe you lived you died and you Rose

again with all power for all of my

damage change me renew me transform me

I’m yours in Jesus name amen can we give

God some praise right now oh y’all

better come on I know we’ve been subdued

all day but let’s give God some praise

please Hey listen if you just accepted

Jesus I want you to scan the QR code on

the screen and we want to give you some

help and then our altar workers are

about to come and we’re just going to

allow the worship team to just play cuz

some of y’all need

prayer today you need spiritual

counsel like like you got your people

you talk to but today you need spiritual

counsel and today we want to pray with

you Services is about to be dismissed

but don’t leave without getting

agreement father bless these people is

our prayer thank you that Faith with

works is

alive and we declare this will be the

best week they’ve ever had as we deal

with what you’ve given us with your help

until next time y’all go out and live a

transformed life amen we love you so

much thank you so much for watching this

message we pray that it encouraged you

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