In Eternity, You Will Be Judged Based on This | Dr. Peter Wyns

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SID: HELLO SID ROTH YOUR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER

HERE WITH PETER WYNS I
DON’T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I

REMEMBER AS A YOUNG BOY
FOCUSING ON A SUBJECT WHAT

HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE, AND
I STARTED TO TRY TO

VISUALIZE WHAT IT BE LIKE
IF I WAS DEAD,

NOW YOU PICTURE A LITTLE
EIGHT YEAR OLD KID SIX

YEAR OLD KID TRYING TO
VISUALIZE THIS.

THE THOUGHTS WERE SO GROSS
AND THE THOUGHTS WERE SO

OBJECTIONABLE I DID THE
ONLY LOGICAL THING THAT I

COULD THINK OF; I BLOCKED
IT FROM MY MIND.

NOW I COME FROM A JEWISH
BACKGROUND,

AND IN JUDAISM WE DO TALK
ABOUT LIFE AFTER DEATH,

HOWEVER NO ONE EVER TALKED
TO ME ABOUT THAT.

ON THIS SHOW YOU ARE GOING
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS

WHEN SOMEONE DIES, PERHAPS
SOME OF YOU FOR THE VERY

FIRST TIME MY QUEST PETER
WYNS I HAVE BEEN SO

LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING
HIM,

BECAUSE I KNEW HIS
GRANDFATHER.

NOW YOUR GRANDFATHER WAS A
VERY UNIQUE MAN,

BECAUSE HE NOT ONLY WAS A
SCHOLAR,

BUT HE HAD GREAT INTIMACY
WITH THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

TELL ME ABOUT DEREK
PRINCE’S SCHOLARSHIP.

PETER: YES DEREK PRINCE
WAS TRAINED IN EATEN,

IN CAMBRIDGE, IN ENGLAND,
HE WAS FROM A VERY

ARISTOCRATIC ENGLISH
BACKGROUND,

HE GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE
HE COULD SPEAK LATIN AND

GREEK AS A YOUNG TEENAGER,
AND NINE LANGUAGES HE

SPOKE.

SID: AS A TEENAGER HE MUST
HAVE ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.

PETER: HE REALLY WAS HE
STUDIED PHILOSOPHY AND

LOGIC AND THIS ALL
HAPPENED BEFORE HE BECAME

A CHRISTIAN, WHICH
HAPPENED WHILE HE WAS A

SOLDIER IN THE WAR, IN THE
SECOND WORLD WAR.

SID: NOW PETER, ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT IMPRESSED ME

ABOUT YOUR GRANDFATHER WAS
THAT THEY LIVED IN ISRAEL,

WITH HIS WIFE LYDIA AND
THEY ADOPTED HOW MANY

CHILDREN?

PETER: THEY ADOPTED AT
THAT TIME EIGHT AND THEN

ONE AFRICAN BABY LATER AND
THERE WAS NINE GIRLS ON

ALL THAT THEY ADOPTED AND
MY MOTHER WAS WONDERFUL.

SID: YOU THINK THAT YOU
HAVE PROBLEMS HOW WOULD

YOU LIKE NINE ADOPTED
CHILDREN LIVING IN ISRAEL

FOR STARTERS, NOW PETER
THERE IS A VERY

INTERESTING STORY ABOUT
YOUR MOTHER TELL ME ABOUT

HER.

PETER: MY MOTHER WAS A
LITTLE JEWISH BABY,

MAGDALENE MIRIAM CATS WAS
HER BIRTH NAME AND WHEN

SHE WAS FIVE DAYS OLD FOR
SOME REASON OBVIOUS TRAUMA

THAT WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT,
HER FATHER WAS A RABBI

LEFT HER AT THE DOORSTEP
OF LYDIA CHRISTIANSON WHO

BECAME LYDIA PRINCE.

BASICALLY HE THOUGH THIS
BABY INTO LYDIA’S ARMS AND

LYDIA WHO WAS CARING FOR
ALREADY FOUR LITTLE GIRLS

TOOK HER IN AND TOOK HER
CLOTHES OFF,

THE SKIN PEELED OFF OF MY
MOTHER THE LITTLE BABY AT

THE TIME, SID: SHE HADN’T
BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

PETER: SHE HADN’T BEEN
TAKEN CARE OF,

EXACTLY AND THERE WAS HER
BIRTH CERTIFICATE STUFF

THERE WITH HER CLOTHES AND
LYDIA NURSED HER BACK TO

LIFE.

AND THEN MY MOTHER GREW
THERE WITH THE REST OF THE

GIRLS THERE WAS EIGHTY
THAT THERE CARES FOR IN

THOSE YEARS AND THEN WHEN
SHE WAS FIFTEEN YEARS OF

AGE 1948 ISRAEL BECAME A
NATION AND SHE WAS THERE.

SID: NOW THAT WAS SUCH AN
HISTORICAL MOMENT BUT NOW

I WANT TO FAST FORWARD
WITH THE SON, YOU.

YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOUR
FATHER WAS A MINISTER YOUR

GRANDFATHER WAS THIS GREAT
RENOUND SCHOLAR WITH THAT

TYPE OF HERITAGE, THAT YOU
WOULD FOLLOW GOD AND BE A

GOOD WHAT WE CALL A MENSCH,
BE A GOOD HUMAN BEING.

BUT AT A YOUNG AGE YOU HAD
A CRISIS AND I WANT TO

TAKE YOU BACK, TO YOU WERE
ON A BUS,

AND SOMETHING VERY
SUPERNATURAL HAPPENED TO YOU.

PETER: YES I WAS REALLY
REBELLIOUS TO GOD,

MY FAMILY MY DAD WHO WAS A
CHRISTIAN PREACHER,

AND I HATED THE WHOLE
THOUGHT OF CHURCH,

AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED
WITH IT,

AND GOD WAS REALLY GETTING
AFTER ME.

AND ON THAT BUS HE REALLY
SPOKE TO ME IN MY HEART

AND I KNEW THAT HE WAS
SAYING BEFORE YOU GET OFF

OF THIS BUS YOU ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE,

WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO
FOLLOW ME OR GO YOUR OWN

WAY OF YOUR INDEPENDENCE
THE WAY OF THE WORLD YOU

MIGHT SAY.

AND ON THAT BUS I KNEW
ENOUGH BECAUSE I HAD BEEN

RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN HOME
AND THAT BEFORE YOU CAN

REALLY GET ANYWHERE WITH
GOD YOU HAVE GOT TO GIVE

HIM YOUR LIFE AND SO ON
THE BUS WITH NOBODY ELSE

THERE THAT I KNEW I BOWED
MY HEAD SAID A PRAYER

ASKED THE LORD TO FORGIVE
ME OF ALL OF MY SINS AND

WRONG DOINGS AND TO WASH
ME AND CLEANS ME AND I

RECEIVED WHAT HE DID FOR
ME ON THE CROSS,

OF CALVARY WHEN HE PAID
FOR MY SINS.

AND ON THAT MOMENT ON THE
BUS I HAD A MARVELOUS

SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCE
THAT CHANGED THE AGENDA OF

MY LIFE.

SID: BUT YOU MADE A DEAL,
TELL ME ABOUT THE DEAL.

PETER: I DID, I WAS
FOURTEEN AND I DON’T KNOW

IF I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS
FOR EVERYBODY BUT I SAID

GOD I DON’T KNOW IF YOU
ARE REAL,

SID: YOU JUST GAVE HIM
YOUR LIFE WHAT DO YOU MEAN

YOU DON’T KNOW IF HE IS
REAL?

PETER: WELL JUST BEFORE I
GAVE HIM MY LIFE I SAID

GOD I DON’T KNOW IF YOU
ARE REAL,

AND IF YOU ARE I WOULD BE
A FOOL NOT TO FOLLOW YOU.

SO I SAID I AM GOING TO
GIVE YOU MY LIFE FOR ONE

WEEK, AND IF IN ONE WEEK
YOU PROVE YOURSELF TO ME

THAT YOU EXIST BEYOND MY
FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS THEN

I WILL SERVE YOU IN ANY
WAY THAT YOU WANT FOR THE

REST OF MY LIFE.
[MUSIC♪]

AND SO THEN I GAVE MY LIFE
TO THE LORD,

AND WITH THIS CONDITION
THAT IT WAS A ONE-WEEK

GIVE CONDITIONAL UPON GIVE
PROVING HIMSELF TO ME.

SID: AND IT IS SO
PHENOMENAL WHAT HAPPENED

AT THE END OF THIS WEEK WE
WILL PICK UP RIGHT HERE

WHEN WE COME BACK I MEAN
THERE IS AN AMAZING

MIRACLE THAT IS GOING TO
TAKE PLACE.

[MUSIC♪]

[MUSIC♪]

SID: HELLO SID ROTH YOUR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER,

OUTRAGEOUS PETER YOU A
LITTLE TEENAGE KID

NEGOTIATING WITH THE
CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE

DID YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU
WERE DOING?

PETER: WELL I DO NOW, BUT –

SID: SO YOU BASICALLY SAID
THAT YOU HAVE GOT TO
PROVE THAT YOU ARE REAL.

PETER: YES

SID: AND ISN’T THAT WHAT
EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW?

PETER: YES AND I THINK
THAT IT IS THE HEART CRY

FROM EVERY PERSON AND IT
IS, IS GOD REALLY REAL?

AND I PROVED IT FOR
MYSELF,

THAT WEEK I STARTED TO SAY
LORD HOW ARE YOU GOING TO

SHOW ME, HOW ARE YOU GOING
TO PROVE TO ME THAT YOU

ARE REAL?

THIS WAS ONLY BETWEEN ME
AND HIM AND I READ IN THE

BIBLE AND IT SAID WHEN YOU
PRAY GO INTO YOUR CLOSET

AND CLOSE THE DOOR.

AND YOUR FATHER WHO SEES
YOU IN SECRET,

YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WHEN
YOU PRAY IN SECRET HE WILL

REWARD YOU OPENLY.

SO I WENT INTO THAT CLOSET
AND I STARTED TO PRAY,

AND AS I WAS IN THE CLOSET
I FELT THE POWER OF THE

HOLY SPIRIT COME OVER ME,
AND HE DIRECTED ME TO PRAYING

FOR MY OLDER BROTHER AND
SISTER AND ANDREW AND

GRACE, WHO WERE ALSO
TEENAGERS BUT HAVE NEVER

RESPONDED TO THE CALL OF
GOD.

NEVER GIVEN THEMSELVES TO
GOD TO BECOME CHRISTIANS,

AND THERE IT WAS THE
SEVENTH DAY HAD COME

AROUND AND I DECIDED TO
FAST NOT TO EAT THAT DAY

BUT TO GIVE MYSELF TO THIS
PRAYER.

SID: SO YOU ARE SAYING
THAT YOUR BROTHER AND

SISTER WHO WERE REAL
HEATHENS DIDN’T COME TO

KNOW JESUS IN THAT
ONE-WEEK PERIOD YOU WOULD

SAY THAT GOD WASN’T REAL?

PETER: THAT WAS THE
CONTRACT THAT I MADE AT

THAT TIME.

SID: OKAY SO WHAT HAPPENS
ON THAT SEVENTH DAY?

PETER: WELL WE WERE WE HAD
TWO MEETINGS THAT DAY ONE

IN THE MORNING AND ONE IN
THE EVENING,

WE HAD A QUEST SPEAKER MY
DAD WAS THE PASTOR.

NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS,
THIS IS JUST BETWEEN GOD

AND I AND I AM IN THERE
AND THE PREACHER IS

PREACHING AND I AM
PRAYING,

AND WHILE I AM PRAYING I
LOOK BACK AT MY BROTHER

AND SISTER AND THEY ARE
TELLING STORIES AT THE

BACK OF THE CHURCH LIKE
THEY ALWAYS DID WHISPERING

AND SO ON –

SID: LIKE MOST KIDS IN
CHURCH THESE DAYS.

PETER: ABSOLUTELY THEY
WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION

AT ALL AND I THOUGH OH
NOTHING IS HAPPENING HERE

AND NOTHING DID HAPPEN,
AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON

I WENT HOME DIDN’T EAT
LUNCH AND I PRAYED THOUGH

THE AFTERNOON, AND THAT
EVENING MEETING HAPPENED

JUST THE SAME THE SPEAKER
GOT UP TO PREACH,

AND I WAS SITTING MORE
CLOSE TO THE FRONT NOW

THAT I WAS GIVING MY LIFE
TO JESUS,

I LOOKED BACK AT ANDREW
AND GRACE AND THEY WERE

TELLING STORIES AND I SAID
GOD MAYBE I ASKED

SOMETHING THAT WAS TOO
HARD FOR YOU AND THEN ALL

OF A SUDDEN I FELT
SOMETHING ROSE IN ME AND I

SAID NO, YOU LOVE THEM AND
I KNOW THAT YOU CAN’T

FORCE THEM TO BECOME
CHRISTIANS BUT YOU CAN AT

LEAST SHOW ME THAT YOU ARE
WORKING ON THEM IN A

DYNAMIC WAY.

AND SO I BEGAN TO PRAY AND
AT THE END OF THE SERMON

THIS PREACHER GAVE AN
ALTER CALL HE CALLED

PEOPLE TO COME TO THE
FRONT TO GIVE THERE LIFE’S

TO JESUS.

TO SURRENDER TO HIM AND
NOTHING HAPPENED,

AND MY DAD WENT UP AND
CLOSE THE MEETING –

SID: WERE YOU NERVOUS THAT YOU
WERE GOING TO HAVE TO

TURN FROM GOD I KNOW HE
SAID IT WAS YOUR LAST CHANCE.

PETER: I WAS DESPERATE AND
I STARTED TO PRAY AND I

SAID GOD I AM STILL GOING
TO PRAY I AM STILL HOLDING

ON I AM STILL BELIEVING IN
YOU.

THIS WAS THE SEVENTH DAY
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS

PREACHER WHO JUMPED TO HIS
FEET AND HE SAID I AM

SORRY PASTOR I CAN’T
EXPLAIN THIS BUT THE HOLY

SPIRIT IS IN ME IS TELLING
ME I NEED TO DO THIS AGAIN

AND HE CAME TO THE PODIUM
AND AGAIN HE CALLED PEOPLE

TO THE FRONT AND NOBODY
RESPONDED.

AND HE WENT AND SET DOWN
AND I KEPT PRAYING,

AND MY DAD CAME TO CLOSE
THE MEETING IN PRAYER AND

ALL OF A SUDDEN HE JUMPED
TO HIS FEET AGAIN,

IT WAS SO UNORTHODOX AND
HE SAID I HAVE TO

APOLOGIZE.

SID: THAT IS ALMOST
SOMEONE WHO HAS A LIFE

SENTENCE AND THEN HE IS
GOING TO BE EXECUTED

BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO THE
ELECTRIC CHAIR AND HE HAS

A REPREY FOR ONE TIMES,
TWO TIMES HOW MANY TIMES?

PETER: IT HAPPENED SEVEN
TIMES,

SID: SEVEN TIMES!
PETER:THAT IS RIGHT

SID: YOU KNOW PETER JUST AS YOU
WERE AT SUCH A DIFFICULT

POINT I MEAN THIS WAS LIFE
OR DEATH WITH YOU,

THERE ARE MANY OF YOU THAT
HAVE HAD LIFE OR DEATH

SITUATIONS, ESPECIALLY
PERTAINING TO PHYSICAL

HEALING AND HAVE HAD
MIRACLES,

NOW YOU WATCH TV AND YOU
SEE QUOTE, “THE

PROFESSIONALS” OUT THERE
BUT THAT IS NOT THE WAY

THAT GOD INTENDED IT, THE
WAY HE INTENDED IT WAS FOR

EACH ONE OF US TO WALK IN
MIRACLES.

I BELIEVE THAT MANY OF YOU
HAVE HAD A GENUINE

MIRACLE FOR GOD AND WE
HAVE A NEW SEGMENT COMING

UP RIGHT NOW IT IS CALLED
SUPERNATURAL CAM, IN OTHERWORDS

I WANT YOU TO TAKE YOUR
VIDEO CAMERA YOU LITTLE

INEXPENSIVE VIDEO CAMERA
AND GIVE ME A TWO TO THREE

MINUTE REPORT OF THE
MIRACLE THAT TOOK PLACE IN

YOUR LIFE.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SEE AN
EXAMPLE OF THIS,

HERE IS A WOMAN THAT OUT
OF THE BLUE SHE GOT MS BUT

SHE BEGGED GOD FOR A
MIRACLE LETS GO TO

D.D. HUDSON RIGHT NOW.

(WHOOSH SOUND)

D.D.: ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH

MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS I HAD,
HAD A SUDDEN ON SET OF

VISION PROBLEMS, AND
SLURRED SPEECH AND A LOT

OF WEAKNESS, AND MY DOCTOR
DID AN MRI AND THE DOCTOR

CAME BACK AND SAID WE HAVE
FOUND WHITE LEGIONS ON

YOUR BRAIN AND THAT IS
INDICTED BY MS. AND AT

FIRST MY HUSBAND AND MY
FAMILY WERE SERIOUSLY

STUNNED BECAUSE NO ONE HAD
SERIOUSLY BEEN SICK

BEFORE, AND NOW HERE IT
WAS FACING US AND WE HAD

THE FILMS TO PROVE THAT I
HAD IT.

AND THEN WE JUST DECIDED
THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO

WALL IN THAT DIAGNOSIS WE
KNOW THAT THE HEALING HAS

BEEN PROVIDED FOR US AND
THAT IS THE PROMISE THAT

WE ARE GOING TO HANG ON TO
UNTIL MY BODY SHOWS

EVIDENCE OF THAT I AM
GOING TO CLAIM MY HEALING.

AND SO AFTER THE NEXT FOUR
YEARS THAT PROVED TO BE

DIFFICULT TO DO AT TIMES
BECAUSE INSTEAD OF GETTING

BETTER MY SYMPTOMS GET
WORSE,

AND MY FAITH WOULD GET
WEAK.

AND THEN IN THE FALL OF
2004 I STARTED HAVING

HEADACHES AND I HAD A NEW
DOCTOR,

AND I SAID LETS DO AN MRI
AND I NEVER SAID ANYTHING

TO HIM ABOUT MY PREVIOUS
DIAGNOSIS I DIDN’T WANT

THE POWER OF SUGGESTION TO
AFFECT HIM,

AND PLUS I STILL HAD NOT
GIVEN IN TO THAT

DIAGNOSIS.

AND I CAME IN FOR RESULTS,
AND HE SAID WHEN YOU COME

IN BRING YOUR OLD FILMS
WITH YOU,

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU
HAD AN MRI A WHILE BACK

BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM
SO LETS JUST BRING THAT

FILMS IN.

AND HE LOOKED AT THE NEW
FILMS AND HE SAID IT LOOKS

TO ME LIKE YOU ARE JUST
OVERDOING IT,

YOU ARE RUNNING TOO MUCH
YOU ARE TRYING TO DO TOO

MUCH YOU ARE TOO STRESSED,
AND THAT IS WHAT YOUR

HEADACHES ARE CAUSED FROM,
AND THEN HE JUST STOPPED

THERE, AND I SAID WHAT
ABOUT THE WHITE LEGIONS ON

MY BRAIN?

AND HE SAID WHAT WHITE
LEGIONS,

AND THAT WAS THE BEST
THING THAT I HAVE HEARD IN

A LONG TIME AND I SAID THE
WHITE LEGIONS ON MY BRAIN,

I SAID I WAS DIAGNOSED
WITH MS FOUR YEARS AGO AND

HERE I HAVE THE FILMS TO
PROVE IT.

AND HE PULLED THEM OUT AND
HE LOOKED AT THOSE AND HE

SAID YOU ARE RIGHT YOU DO
HAVE WHITE LEGIONS AND

THEN HE LOOKED AT THE NEW
FILMS AND THEN HE LOOKED

AT THE OLD AND THEN HE
LOOKED AT THE NEW AND THEN

HE LOOKED AT THE OLD, AND
HE SAID I DON’T KNOW HOW

TO EXPLAIN IT BUT EVERY
WHITE LEGION IS GONE AND

YOU HAVE GOT ONE OF THE
HEALTHIEST BRAINS THAT I

HAVE EVER SEEN.

AND I CAN EXPLAIN IT AND I
SAID I BELIEVE THE LORD

HEALED ME AND HE SAID
WE’LL TAKE WHATEVER WE CAN

GET, AND I COULDN’T GET
OUT OF THAT OFFICE FAST

ENOUGH I CALLED MY
HUSBAND,

I CALLED MY FAMILY, I
CALLED MY PASTOR,

AND THEN I CALLED A FRIEND
OF OURS WHO IS STILL

FIGHTING CANCER AND I TOLD
HIM TO JUST HANG ON AND

DON’T GIVE UP BECAUSE HIS
HEALING WAS ON THE WAY.

AND THE HARDEST TIMES IS
IN-BETWEEN THAT FIRST SET

OF FILMS THAT PROVES THAT
YOU HAVE SOMETHING AND THE

SECOND SET OF FILMS THAT
PROVES THAT GOD HAS

DELIVERED YOU FROM IT.

SO JUST HANG ON BECAUSE
YOUR HEALING IS COMING.

(WHOOSH SOUND)

SID: D.D.HUDSON GOT A MIRACLE
BUT WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO FIND

OUT THAT HAPPENED TO PETER
WAS A FAR GREATER MIRACLE,

I MEAN IT WAS SPECTACULAR,
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK

AFTER THIS WORD.

[MUSIC♪]

[MUSIC♪]

SID:HELLO SID ROTH YOUR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER HERE
WITH PETER WYNS AND

THIS YOUNG FOURTEEN YEAR
OLD SAID GOD IF YOU ARE

REAL YOU WILL CAUSE MY
BROTHER AND MY SISTER TO

ACCEPT YOU WITHIN ONE
WEEK,

I GIVE YOU ONE WEEK TO
PROVE YOURSELF REAL WITH

ME.

SO HE SITS IN THE CHURCH
AND HIS FATHER IS THE

MINISTER THEY GIVE ONE
ALTER CALL BECAUSE PETER

IS SWEATING FOR ALL HE IS
WORTH BECAUSE THIS IS

FOREVER WITH GOD THAT IS
AT STAKE,

THE SECOND ALTER CALL, I
MEAN THIS IS HIGHLY

UNUSUAL I DON’T THINK THAT
THIS MINISTER EVER DID

THIS BEFORE THE QUEST
SPEAKER SEVEN ALTER CALLS

AT THE SEVENTH ALTER CALL
WHAT HAPPENED PETER?

PETER: WELL AT THE FIFTH
ALTER CALL HE JUMPED UP

AND GAVE THIS ALTER CALL
AGAIN,

AND THE PRESENCE OF THE
HOLY SPIRIT JUST FILLED

THE ROOM AND PEOPLE
STARTED TO CRY.

JUST IN THE BACK AND ALL
OVER AND YOU COULD FEEL

GOD DOING SOMETHING VERY
POWERFULLY AND MY EYES

WERE CLOSED AND I WAS
CRYING AND I WAS STILL

PRAYING AND AFTER THE
FINAL SEVENTH ALTER CALL I

OPENED MY EYES AND THERE
WAS ANDREW AND GRACE MY

OLDER BROTHER AND SISTER,
ON THERE KNEES DOWN AT THE

FRONT AND TEARS WERE
COMING DOWN THERE EYES

THEY REPENTED OF THERE
SINS AND GAVE THERE LIVES

TO JESUS.

ANDREW BECAME A PREACHER
OF THE GOSPEL AND GRACE IS

STILL WALKING WITH THE
LORD 35 YEARS LATER.

SID: SO WHAT WOULD HAVE
HAPPENED WITH YOU PETER IF

THIS DEAL THAT YOU STRUCK
WITH GOD YOUR BROTHER AND

SISTER DID NOT RECEIVE
JESUS YOU HAD WALKED AWAY

FROM GOD YOUR WHOLE LIFE
AND THEN YOU DIED.

NOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO
YOU?

PETER: WELL GIVEN THAT GOD
DIDN’T COME AFTER ME

AGAIN, SO THAT I COULD
BECOME A CHRISTIAN,

I WOULD OF ONE DAY HAD TO
STAND IN FRONT OF THE

JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST.

BECAUSE THE SCRIPTURE SAYS
IT IS A POINT OF THE MAN

WHO WANTS TO DIE AND THEN
THE JUDGMENT.

AND THERE ARE JUDGMENTS IN
THIS LIFE THAT HAVE

RAMIFICATIONS AS TO WHAT
OUR FAMILY MIGHT HAVE DONE

BEFORE US.

OR THE NATION THAT WE LIVE
IN THERE ARE NATURAL

CALAMITIES THAT BRING
JUDGMENTS ON NATIONS AND

FAMILIES AND WE ARE PART
OF THAT IF WE LIVE IN A

FAMILY OR A COMMUNITY OR
IN THE NATION,

BUT ETERNAL JUDGMENT IS A
TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING IT

IS INDIVIDUAL EVERY PERSON
STANDS REGARDLESS OF WHAT

THERE FAMILIES HAVE DONE
WHAT NATIONS HAVE DONE,

WHERE THEY WERE BORN THEY
STAND ALONE BEFORE GOD AND

HAVE TO GIVE A RESPONSE TO
GODS CALL ON THERE LIFE

WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO
RESPOND TO HIM WHETHER

THEY ARE GOING TO BELIEVE
IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST

AS THE MESSIAH AS THERE
MASTER AS THERE SAVIOR

HAVING DIED ON THE CROSS
TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THERE

SINS.

AND THOSE WHO BELIEVE ON
THAT THE BIBLE TELLS US

VERY CLEAR THEY RECEIVE
ETERNAL LIFE.

SID: SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH
SOMEONE THAT MADE THAT

DECISION LIKE YOURSELF,
WOULD YOU GO THROUGH A

JUDGMENT?

PETER: WELL THERE IS A
JUDGMENT BUT IT IS NOT THE

GREAT WHITE THRONE
JUDGMENT,

BEFORE ALL MIGHTY GOD, IT
IS CALLED IN THE GREEK THE

BEMA WHICH IS A THRONE
THAT YOU COME BEFORE JESUS

CHRIST HIMSELF.

AND HE JUDGES CHRISTIANS
AND BELIEVERS ON HOW THEY

HAVE RESPONDED TO THE CALL
ON THERE LIFE IN TERMS OF

HOW THEY HAVE SERVED HIM,
HOW THEY HAVE WALKED WITH

HIM AS A DISCIPLE, HOW
THEY HAVE FOLLOWED HIM,

AND THOSE WHO DO EXPLOITS
AND DO WONDERFUL THINGS

FOR GOD THE SCRIPTURE
TEACHES US THAT THE LORD

REWARDS THEM IN A GREATER
AND MORE WONDERFUL WAY IN

THE LIFE TO COME.

SID: WELL PETER WHAT
HAPPENS IF SOMEONE DOESN’T

RECEIVE JESUS THEY GO
THROUGH THIS GREAT WHITE

THRONE JUDGMENT, AS YOU
UNDERSTAND IT ARE THEY

EVALUATED ON EVERYTHING
THAT THEY DID IN THERE

LIFE OR WHAT IS YOUR
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT

ACTUALLY THE PROCESS IS I
MEAN IS THERE A JURY IS

THERE A COURT IS THERE A
GAVEL?

PETER: WELL IT IS GOD ALL
MIGHTY THAT IS THE JUDGE

THAT IS HIS TITLE, AND HE
IS THE ONE WHO DETERMINES,

NONE OF US CAN JUDGE
ANOTHER PERSON IN TERMS OF

ETERNAL MATTERS ONLY GOD
CAN.

AND THE PRIMARY ISSUE IS
HAVE YOU RECEIVED WHAT HE

HAS OFFERED?

OR HAVE YOU REJECTED HIM
AND WHAT HE OFFERS TO US

IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD
HIS SON JESUS.

SO THOSE THAT RECEIVE
JESUS RECEIVE THE REWARDS

OF THE INHERITANCE THAT
BELONGS TO JESUS,

AND THOSE THAT DON’T THE
SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT THEY

DO GO TO HELL, AS
POLITICALLY INCORRECT AS

THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT THE
BIBLE TEACHES AND IT IS A

PLACE OF SUFFERING AND
TORMENT APART FROM GOD AND

ALL ETERNITY.

SID: YOU KNOW I HAVE OFTEN
THOUGHT LETS SUPPOSE

SOMEONE ISN’T SURE ISN’T
IT A DUMB THING TO DO AT

LEAST WHAT YOU DID AND
WHAT I AM SAYING IS,

IS THAT GOD AT LEAST SHOW
ME IN SOME WAY SO THAT I

CAN UNDERSTAND, ISN’T IT
KIND OF FOOLISH?

PETER: IF SOMEONE REALLY
IS SERIOUS ABOUT THE TRUTH

AND WANTING TO SEEK GOD,
GOD WILL MEET THEM,

IF THEY ARE WILLING TO
TAKE STEPS AND PUT THERE

LIFE ON THE LINE I KNOW
WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT GOD

IN SOME WAY WILL MEET THEM
AND REVEAL TO THEM THE

HOLY SPIRIT AND THE LORD
JESUS CHRIST. [MUSIC♪]

SID: YOU KNOW PETER WHAT I
THINK IS PHENOMENAL IS

WHEN WE DIE, WE ARE
ALONE BEFORE A HOLY GOD.

BUT IN THIS LIFE AND SEE A
LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WELL I

DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN,

BUT THE TRUTH IS I KNOW
WHAT HAPPENED IN MY LIFE

THAT IS THE TRUTH, AND IN
MY LIFE I WAS MUCH MORE

MESSED UP THEN PETER, MY
MARRIAGE WENT DOWN THE

DRAIN, I DIDN’T GET A
DIVORCE BUT I WAS

SEPARATED FROM MY WIFE AND
DAUGHTER AND MY JOB WAS

DOWN THE DRAIN, I WAS AN
ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE WITH

MARYL LYNCH AND I JUST
WALKED AWAY FROM MY JOB

AND THEN I GOT INVOLVED IN
THE NEW AGE WHICH GOD

CALLS AN ABOMINATION IN
THE TORAH COMING FROM A

JEWISH BACKGROUND, AND SO
I HAD NO WHERE TO GO BUT

GOD AND I BELIEVE THAT
THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING

ME RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE
THAT YOU HAVE NO WHERE TO

GO.

AND THIS IS MY STORY AND
YOU MIGHT NOT TOTALLY

UNDERSTAND IT BUT I CRIED
OUT IN DESPERATION THE

WORST DAY OF MY LIFE AND
MY PRAYER WAS A TWO WORD

PRAYER, “JESUS HELP”, IT
WASN’T SOME GREAT MASTER

PIECE AND I WENT TO BED
AND WHEN I WOKE UP THERE

WAS SUCH A PIECE WE CALL
IT SHALOM IT WAS INSIDE OF

MY HEART AND MY WHOLE LIFE
WAS TRANSFORMED SO YOU

DON’T UNDERSTAND THE FACT
THAT JESUS CAME TO EARTH

GOD AND HUMAN FORM AND
DIED ON THE CROSS FOR OUR

SINS AND FOR OUR DISEASES
AND YOU DON’T TOTALLY

UNDERSTAND THAT AND HE
DIED AND HE ROSE TO THE

DEAD AND BY HIS BLOOD OUR
SINS OUR WASHED AWAY,

BUT IF I TELL YOU IF YOU
WILL TAKE A STEP TOWARDS

GOD HE WILL TAKE TWO STEPS
TOWARDS YOU ISN’T IT TIME

YOU TAKE THE FIRST STEP.

HE HAS ALREADY TAKEN HIS
STEP,

WHAT I HAVE ALREADY TOLD
YOU IS ENOUGH,

IT’S ENOUGH IS THERE
ANYTHING WORTH LIVING FOR

TO GIVE UP ETERNITY WITH
GOD?

THE PEACE THAT I WALK IN,
I MEAN I HAVE CHALLENGES

JUST LIKE YOU BUT I TELL
YOU THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO

DO IT BY YOURSELF.

YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE ALONE
YOU CAN BE FILLED WITH THE

LOVE OF GOD WHEREVER YOU
GO AND A LOT OF PEOPLE

DON’T KNOW THIS BUT GOD IS
LOVE AND YOU HAVE NEVER

EXPERIENCED LOVE UNTIL YOU
OPEN YOURSELF UP AND YOU

SAY “GOD I AM SORRY FOR MY
SINS PLEASE FORGIVE ME I

MAKE JESUS MY LORD AMEN”.

THAT IS IT, THAT SIMPLE.

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