Bill Johnson and Bethel Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly discuss if Jesus was born again.
and and i’ll i’ll say things that sound
sound completely wrong
or questionable just to get people to
think and then we process it and iron it
out to where it’s it’s good
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so um
it’s every once in a while i guess
you’ll say that jesus was born again
and uh i uh
i i haven’t been in the room it’s but
it’s one of those moments where i like
well i know bill yeah and i know bill’s
not saying jesus got saved so and so i’m
like i try to like lean in and try to
listen what do you mean to communicate
when you say uh
jesus was born again i think it was on a
sunday night i was i was teaching on you
know on the resurrection and stuff
and i it just occurred to me jesus of
course was born of a virgin which we
absolutely believe so he was born
and then he was raised from the dead
which is called the first
he’s firstborn of the dead
in fact it’s called a birth in hebrews i
think it’s hebrews 1 and
in in one of the gospels anyway the
corinthians anyway the point is is he
was born of a woman and he was raised
from the dead so that’s again you are
such a biblical literature
you know
i i know it irritates people
it’s not something i would announce
today again because we’re so widely
exposed but when i said it was just to
get the people in the room to think
that’s all and and i’ll i’ll say things
that sound
sound completely wrong
or or questionable just to get people to
think and then we process it and iron it
out to where it’s
it’s good but of course
the critics aren’t going to take that
part but uh but but the point is yeah is
no he he he didn’t become he didn’t
become a christian or yeah so
for the record
bill johnson said jesus didn’t become a
christian in that moment yeah
and he wasn’t born again the way we’re
born again no goodness no no no i i have
to be born again i i i have to have a
savior i have to be born again after you
be mourned in this little new life he’s
already god yeah so absolutely not but
i use the word again
because there are two births described
yeah which means the second could be
called again and it was just to get the
people in the room i would never do that
as a
as a teaching you know as a point of
theology to try to convince people of
some new truth now let’s just make
people think about the resurrection
yeah because it’s called a birth
yes
it is
it’s it is called a birth
um you know chris who who we work with
he has a way of saying i want to propose
that and he’ll say that before he says
something like that oh and it makes
everybody like dial down like he’s just
a proposal
so are you suggesting that i don’t know
if it actually works but it is what i
hear him saying i’m like
are you saying it or not bro
i said here’s an idea so yeah yeah yeah
yeah all right let’s flip it okay we’re
on the same page jesus didn’t get saved
but it does illustrate that couple
things
but
again when i i know you sound like i
know what you’re not saying and again
this is that thing where i think when
people get to you know however we can be
known more i think even these podcasts
attempt to be known more so you can kind
of trust when you hear something like
that and go i know it’s not being said
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